Mistrial declared in Bundy Trial

[captainmorgan]

Two more incidents this weekend and they are not releasing the perps identities, could they be more white terrorists? Caught a guy with a weapons cache on the top floor of a Houston hotel and another shot a bunch of cops near Denver.

 

[Rob Roy]

Polish away, you have zero credibility if you dismiss that many dead people out of hand.

Psst - "Madeline Albright"

(look it up)

Harry Truman - mass murderer

"We came, we saw, he died" - Hillary Clinton

 

[schuylaar]

Two more incidents this weekend and they are not releasing the perps identities, could they be more white terrorists? Caught a guy with a weapons cache on the top floor of a Houston hotel and another shot a bunch of cops near Denver.

there was no ammo round count note, therefore 'no intent'.

 

[choomer]

It would be so nice if people like Buckold and captainorgan could cite the sources for their claims when they claim them, but then perhaps they realize that it hasn't worked very well as proof if someone takes the time to actually read their offered supporting "evidence".

To shift back on to topic, let's see what fine investigatory work was done before the raid on the Bundys (excerpt copy/pasted for the link clicking impared) :

Unsealed court documents detail how the team of prosecutors tasked with convicting Cliven Bundy and his sons of crimes relating to a 2014 armed standoff failed to turn over potential exculpatory evidence to the court, The Oregonian reports.

The Bundys’ case ended in a mistrial Dec. 20 after Judge Gloria Navarro ruled that prosecutors violated the civil rights of the defendants by withholding evidence supporting the Bundys’ case. Navarro is considering dismissing the case “with prejudice” and blocking prosecutors from retrying the case. Her decision will come Jan. 8, according to The New York Times.
“There were approximately 3,000 pages that were provided to us only after we started trial,” Bundy lawyer Bret D. Whipple told TheNYT. “I personally have never seen anything like this, especially in a case of such importance.”

Those 3,000 pages include the Bundys’ requests for multiple federal assessments that showed the Bundy family was likely not dangerous. Prosecutors called the requests part of a “long list of frivolous and vexatious pleadings,” until a government witness, under cross examination, revealed knowledge of the assessments in court, The Oregonian reports.

Defense attorney’s asked federal prosecutors to hand over Inspector General reports on Bureau of Land Management (BLM) agent Dan Love, who directed the BLM raid on the Bundy ranch to seize the family’s cattle over decades of unpaid grazing fees. Love was fired from the agency in September for corruption and unethical behavior.

Prosecutors had dismissed the allegations and investigations of Love as an “urban legend,” but ended up handing over 500 pages worth of reports on Love in December, according to The Oregonian.

The Bundys’ lawyers made two requests to Navarro for a special “discovery monitor” to ensure that all relevant documents were being turned over by the prosecution. Both requests were denied. Attorney General Jeff Sessions, however, launched an investigation into prosecutorial misconduct after the mistrial.
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Personally, I worry more about those prosecuting the laws ignoring them and circumventing them than I do a family trying to make a living as they have on land that the Bundy family has lived in for over 100 years even thought the federal gov't claims ownership of 81% of Nevada.

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[UncleBuck]

It would be so nice if people like Buckold and captainorgan could cite the sources for their claims when they claim them, but then perhaps they realize that it hasn't worked very well as proof if someone takes the time to actually read their offered supporting "evidence".

To shift back on to topic, let's see what fine investigatory work was done before the raid on the Bundys (excerpt copy/pasted for the link clicking impared) :

Unsealed court documents detail how the team of prosecutors tasked with convicting Cliven Bundy and his sons of crimes relating to a 2014 armed standoff failed to turn over potential exculpatory evidence to the court, The Oregonian reports.

The Bundys’ case ended in a mistrial Dec. 20 after Judge Gloria Navarro ruled that prosecutors violated the civil rights of the defendants by withholding evidence supporting the Bundys’ case. Navarro is considering dismissing the case “with prejudice” and blocking prosecutors from retrying the case. Her decision will come Jan. 8, according to The New York Times.
“There were approximately 3,000 pages that were provided to us only after we started trial,” Bundy lawyer Bret D. Whipple told TheNYT. “I personally have never seen anything like this, especially in a case of such importance.”

Those 3,000 pages include the Bundys’ requests for multiple federal assessments that showed the Bundy family was likely not dangerous. Prosecutors called the requests part of a “long list of frivolous and vexatious pleadings,” until a government witness, under cross examination, revealed knowledge of the assessments in court, The Oregonian reports.

Defense attorney’s asked federal prosecutors to hand over Inspector General reports on Bureau of Land Management (BLM) agent Dan Love, who directed the BLM raid on the Bundy ranch to seize the family’s cattle over decades of unpaid grazing fees. Love was fired from the agency in September for corruption and unethical behavior.

Prosecutors had dismissed the allegations and investigations of Love as an “urban legend,” but ended up handing over 500 pages worth of reports on Love in December, according to The Oregonian.

The Bundys’ lawyers made two requests to Navarro for a special “discovery monitor” to ensure that all relevant documents were being turned over by the prosecution. Both requests were denied. Attorney General Jeff Sessions, however, launched an investigation into prosecutorial misconduct after the mistrial.
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Personally, I worry more about those prosecuting the laws ignoring them and circumventing them than I do a family trying to make a living as they have on land that the Bundy family has lived in for over 100 years even thought the federal gov't claims ownership of 81% of Nevada.

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awww, the insecure closet case can't alter the fact that the vast majority of terror attacks in the united states are committed by white, right wing extremists like himself, so he wants to get back to defending a bunch of white, criminal, mooches and leeches who prance around in cowboy costumes.

 

[PCXV]

It would be so nice if people like Buckold and captainorgan could cite the sources for their claims when they claim them, but then perhaps they realize that it hasn't worked very well as proof if someone takes the time to actually read their offered supporting "evidence".

To shift back on to topic, let's see what fine investigatory work was done before the raid on the Bundys (excerpt copy/pasted for the link clicking impared) :

Unsealed court documents detail how the team of prosecutors tasked with convicting Cliven Bundy and his sons of crimes relating to a 2014 armed standoff failed to turn over potential exculpatory evidence to the court, The Oregonian reports.

The Bundys’ case ended in a mistrial Dec. 20 after Judge Gloria Navarro ruled that prosecutors violated the civil rights of the defendants by withholding evidence supporting the Bundys’ case. Navarro is considering dismissing the case “with prejudice” and blocking prosecutors from retrying the case. Her decision will come Jan. 8, according to The New York Times.
“There were approximately 3,000 pages that were provided to us only after we started trial,” Bundy lawyer Bret D. Whipple told TheNYT. “I personally have never seen anything like this, especially in a case of such importance.”

Those 3,000 pages include the Bundys’ requests for multiple federal assessments that showed the Bundy family was likely not dangerous. Prosecutors called the requests part of a “long list of frivolous and vexatious pleadings,” until a government witness, under cross examination, revealed knowledge of the assessments in court, The Oregonian reports.

Defense attorney’s asked federal prosecutors to hand over Inspector General reports on Bureau of Land Management (BLM) agent Dan Love, who directed the BLM raid on the Bundy ranch to seize the family’s cattle over decades of unpaid grazing fees. Love was fired from the agency in September for corruption and unethical behavior.

Prosecutors had dismissed the allegations and investigations of Love as an “urban legend,” but ended up handing over 500 pages worth of reports on Love in December, according to The Oregonian.

The Bundys’ lawyers made two requests to Navarro for a special “discovery monitor” to ensure that all relevant documents were being turned over by the prosecution. Both requests were denied. Attorney General Jeff Sessions, however, launched an investigation into prosecutorial misconduct after the mistrial.
​

Personally, I worry more about those prosecuting the laws ignoring them and circumventing them than I do a family trying to make a living as they have on land that the Bundy family has lived in for over 100 years even thought the federal gov't claims ownership of 81% of Nevada.

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What gave the Bundys the right to graze on land they didn't own without paying dues and to destroy natural and cultural resources all along the way? They made millions destroying land that they refused to retribute. They are scum.

 

[Sir Napsalot]

What gave the Bundys the right to graze on land they didn't own without paying dues and to destroy natural and cultural resources all along the way? They made millions destroying land that they refused to retribute. They are scum.

Well put

 

[SneekyNinja]

What gave the Bundys the right to graze on land they didn't own without paying dues and to destroy natural and cultural resources all along the way? They made millions destroying land that they refused to retribute. They are scum.

And yet people working two jobs and using welfare are somehow stealing.

They're stupid fucking cucks, the right wingers.

 

[choomer]

awww, the insecure closet case can't alter the fact that the vast majority of terror attacks in the united states are committed by white, right wing extremists....

I seem to remember it going something like this (since I read the report unlike you it seems):

Sure, but if you actually read the report instead of expecting someone (the fvcking cato institute!) to thoroughly report on the entire study (instead of a 3 year span) you'd see:

The total number of fatalities is about the same for far right wing violent extremists and radical Islamist
violent extremists over the approximately 15 year period (106 and 119, respectively). However, 41 percent of the deaths
attributable to radical Islamist violent extremists occurred in a single event an attack at an
Orlando, Florida night club in 2016 (see fig. 2). Details on the locations and dates of the attacks can be found in appendix II​

This is the next sentence after "the fvcking cato institutes" quote from their fine representation of the report.

They don't even count 9/11 since it wasn't "domestic".
So you "owned" me by running away for a while after I proved you wrong, again, using your source material.

What gave the Bundys the right to graze on land they didn't own without paying dues and to destroy natural and cultural resources all along the way? They made millions destroying land that they refused to retribute. They are scum.

This trial tasked the prosecutors with convicting Cliven Bundy and his sons of crimes relating to a 2014 armed standoff on THESE charges:

The 51-page Nevada indictment lays out these charges and potential penalties:

• Conspiracy to Impede and Injure a Federal Law Enforcement Officer – 6 years, $250,000 fine
• Assault on a Federal Law Enforcement Officer – 20 years, $250,000 fine
• Threatening a Federal Law Enforcement Officer – 10 years, $250,000 fine
• Use and Carry of a Firearm in Relation to a Crime of Violence – 5 years minimum and consecutive
• Obstruction of the Due Administration of Justice - 10 years, $250,000 fine
• Interference with Interstate Commerce by Extortion - 20 years, $250,000 fine
• Interstate Travel in Aid of Extortion – 20 years, $250,000 fine

As to the natural resources (desert tortiose) the Feds don't seem to worry much about that when they are going to euthanize them.
I never said everything the Bundys were doing was legal but I do expect both the prosecutors and law enforcement to abide by legal stricture or they are exactly the same.
Probably best summed up by Sheriff Gillespie:

Again, this in no way excuses Bundy from paying his fees, but the big takeaway must be this from Gillespie:

“I think if anybody would look at how they (BLM) handled the protesting with the use of Tasers and police dogs, anyone who had been in policing would question those tactics. And I believe that led to the heightened interest and escalating the situation.”
How about we do what the sheriff recommends. Let’s take a look at how the BLM handled the Bundy Ranch standoff before the BLM gets somebody hurt. I’m talking to you, Sen. Reid, Rep. Steven Horsford and Rep. Dina Titus. A little leadership on this wouldn’t hurt.​

And yet people in the gov't are somehow stealing.
They're stupid fucking cucks

FIFY

 

[see4]

I seem to remember it going something like this (since I read the report unlike you it seems):

They don't even count 9/11 since it wasn't "domestic".
So you "owned" me by running away for a while after I proved you wrong, again, using your source material.

This trial tasked the prosecutors with convicting Cliven Bundy and his sons of crimes relating to a 2014 armed standoff on THESE charges:

The 51-page Nevada indictment lays out these charges and potential penalties:

• Conspiracy to Impede and Injure a Federal Law Enforcement Officer – 6 years, $250,000 fine
• Assault on a Federal Law Enforcement Officer – 20 years, $250,000 fine
• Threatening a Federal Law Enforcement Officer – 10 years, $250,000 fine
• Use and Carry of a Firearm in Relation to a Crime of Violence – 5 years minimum and consecutive
• Obstruction of the Due Administration of Justice - 10 years, $250,000 fine
• Interference with Interstate Commerce by Extortion - 20 years, $250,000 fine
• Interstate Travel in Aid of Extortion – 20 years, $250,000 fine

As to the natural resources (desert tortiose) the Feds don't seem to worry much about that when they are going to euthanize them.
I never said everything the Bundys were doing was legal but I do expect both the prosecutors and law enforcement to abide by legal stricture or they are exactly the same.
Probably best summed up by Sheriff Gillespie:

Again, this in no way excuses Bundy from paying his fees, but the big takeaway must be this from Gillespie:

“I think if anybody would look at how they (BLM) handled the protesting with the use of Tasers and police dogs, anyone who had been in policing would question those tactics. And I believe that led to the heightened interest and escalating the situation.”
How about we do what the sheriff recommends. Let’s take a look at how the BLM handled the Bundy Ranch standoff before the BLM gets somebody hurt. I’m talking to you, Sen. Reid, Rep. Steven Horsford and Rep. Dina Titus. A little leadership on this wouldn’t hurt.​

FIFY

The Federal Reserve is a government entity.
A Federal Reserve Note is not debt.
Stop being a non-smart.

 

[SneekyNinja]

The Federal Reserve is a government entity.
A Federal Reserve Note is not debt.
Stop being a non-smart.

It's Skytard, notice how she's gone now and he came back?

 

[Sour Wreck]

I seem to remember it going something like this (since I read the report unlike you it seems):

They don't even count 9/11 since it wasn't "domestic".
So you "owned" me by running away for a while after I proved you wrong, again, using your source material.

This trial tasked the prosecutors with convicting Cliven Bundy and his sons of crimes relating to a 2014 armed standoff on THESE charges:

The 51-page Nevada indictment lays out these charges and potential penalties:

• Conspiracy to Impede and Injure a Federal Law Enforcement Officer – 6 years, $250,000 fine
• Assault on a Federal Law Enforcement Officer – 20 years, $250,000 fine
• Threatening a Federal Law Enforcement Officer – 10 years, $250,000 fine
• Use and Carry of a Firearm in Relation to a Crime of Violence – 5 years minimum and consecutive
• Obstruction of the Due Administration of Justice - 10 years, $250,000 fine
• Interference with Interstate Commerce by Extortion - 20 years, $250,000 fine
• Interstate Travel in Aid of Extortion – 20 years, $250,000 fine

As to the natural resources (desert tortiose) the Feds don't seem to worry much about that when they are going to euthanize them.
I never said everything the Bundys were doing was legal but I do expect both the prosecutors and law enforcement to abide by legal stricture or they are exactly the same.
Probably best summed up by Sheriff Gillespie:

Again, this in no way excuses Bundy from paying his fees, but the big takeaway must be this from Gillespie:

“I think if anybody would look at how they (BLM) handled the protesting with the use of Tasers and police dogs, anyone who had been in policing would question those tactics. And I believe that led to the heightened interest and escalating the situation.”
How about we do what the sheriff recommends. Let’s take a look at how the BLM handled the Bundy Ranch standoff before the BLM gets somebody hurt. I’m talking to you, Sen. Reid, Rep. Steven Horsford and Rep. Dina Titus. A little leadership on this wouldn’t hurt.​

FIFY

go ahead an point a gun at the feds and see where you end up...

fucking redneck morons !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

stupid homeschooled losers thought they were gonna start a redneck revolution

 

[Sour Wreck]

The Federal Reserve is a government entity.
A Federal Reserve Note is not debt.
Stop being a non-smart.

define government entity

 

[see4]

define government entity

An entity of the government.

 

[captainmorgan]

Anyone ever wonder why all the southern racists love a Yankee carpetbagger from New York City, they usually hate them almost as much as minorities.

 

[Sour Wreck]

An entity of the government.

But you do agree that the federal reserve is not owned by the federal government, correct?

 

[Sour Wreck]

Anyone ever wonder why all the southern racists love a Yankee carpetbagger from New York City, they usually hate them almost as much as minorities.

Nope, that is the most baffling thing about this election.

All the Southerners I know hate everyone from the north, especially New Yorkers.

They sold their souls

 

[captainmorgan]

Could it be that they will embrace any white male that claims to be christian as long as he hates minorities, gay people, non christians and women. I bet if you look into tRUmps past the only time he was ever in a church was for a wedding or funeral so you don't have to really be christian, just say you are. The south is known for incest so a Yankee that diddles his own daughter is fine. As long as you have enough hate in your heart you're their man.

 

[see4]

But you do agree that the federal reserve is not owned by the federal government, correct?

The Federal Reserve Banks are not owned by the federal government, they are a corporate entity. The Federal Reserve is an agency of the federal government to oversea the Federal Reserve Banks. Though the confusion for many lies in the fact that the Federal Reserve Banks must act like a federal agency as they are not driven by profit and are run by the people (for the people).

 

[captainmorgan]

Not everyone in the south is a racist incestuous asshole but they do seem to have more than their share.