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GrowRebel

Well-Known Member
Well, you live in a town with a lack of well paying jobs, most likely you don't have an education, because if you did, you can find a decent job in any town or city.
That like saying all the small towns with low paying jobs are full of uneducated people ... that's bull shit ... I know plenty in the area that have degrees and are doing as poorly as me ... so you are full of shit on that one ...

No body told you to have kids you can't support. That is the bed you've made and now, you must lie in it.
Again you show your stupidity ... I don't have children ... so wrong again ...

Are you telling me that you don't blow $50 a month on things you don't need? Whether it be soda, cigarettes, coffee, or what ever. This is your money that you can invest. Its not our fault you decide to spend this money on something that is not needed.
First I have to have $50 bucks to blow ... after I meet all my basic financial obligations there's nothing left ... what part of that don't you get ... and when did I say it was your fault I'm struggling financially?

$50 a month might not sound like a lot, but its $600 a year. If you are investing it, whether it be in the market, a 401k, or just a savings account, this money will add up. Everybody has money they can save. Some may have more than others.
Like I said before ... I have to HAVE $50 before I can invest it ... in your narrow mind you think everybody has money to save ... that is obviously not always the case ...

I am one of those people that works paycheck to paycheck as well, but I understand it is my own fault. I blow my money on things that are not needed, and thats why I don't have a bunch of extra money lying around.
Stop trying to project your own short coming on me ... it don't fly ... I'm not you ... nor do I behave as you do ... nor do I wish to ...
I quit a well paying job, close to $80,000 a year, simply because I hated what I was doing. 60hrs a week just isn't for me.
... and what does this have to do with me and my situation ... I didn't quit a well paying job ... I was discriminated by my union ... so I had to get the best job I could find in the area ...
But it is my choice I am broke, just like it is your choice.
... it wasn't my choice to be discriminated against ... so you're wrong again ... no surprises though ...

Move to a different city with more work, get an education so you can find another job, etc. There is no one to blame for your misfortune other than yourself.
Explain how you move to a different city with no funds ... or get an education without funds ... and again ... when did I blame someone else for my situation ... you need to pull your head out your ass ... everyone isn't like you ... :dunce:
 

medicineman

New Member
and what does this have to do with me and my situation ... I didn't quit a well paying job ... I was discriminated by my union ... so I had to get the best job I could find in the area ...
Being a union man, I'd like to hear more about this.
 

bongrippinbob

Well-Known Member
How do you move without money? Live in your car for a month. That will save you plenty of money and you can get a new place.

You don't blow $50 a month? You never buy anything to drink besides tap water? Right there you can save plenty of money. You never have something sweet around to eat at your house? This is more money you can save. I'm sure not everything you buy is a necessity.

The kid comment was just a generalization. If you have no kids, than you shouldn't be that bad off.

If you want an education, there are community colleges out there with financial aid available. How do you think I went to school? You do well at the 2yr college, get yourself a scholarship to a 4yr, and now you have an education. And it doesn't cost you a dime.

If you don't have enough money, get a second job. Hell even a third if you need it. There are ways to make it, people do it every day. If you can't succeed, its not the area you are in, its not the economy, its YOU. You can't blame any of your hardships on anyone but yourself. Nobody told you to move to a crappy little town. And if you were raised there, nobody told you to stay in that crappy little town.
 

GrowRebel

Well-Known Member
Hey :finger: I'm not living in my fucking car because you say I should ... you go and do that shit ... everyone isn't required to do the shit you do ... wake the fuck up ... :dunce:
 

tipsgnob

New Member
The Scandinavian countries showed the way, almost two decades ago. By
issuing preferred shares with warrants (options), one reduces the
public's downside risk and insures that they participate in some of
the upside potential. This approach is not only proven, it provides
both incentives and wherewithal to resume lending. It furthermore
avoids the hopeless task of trying to value millions of complex
mortgages and even more complex products in which they are embedded,
and it deals with the "lemons" problem - the government getting stuck
with the worst or most overpriced assets.
 

wes87t

Active Member
Well, you live in a town with a lack of well paying jobs, most likely you don't have an education, because if you did, you can find a decent job in any town or city. No body told you to have kids you can't support. That is the bed you've made and now, you must lie in it.

Are you telling me that you don't blow $50 a month on things you don't need? Whether it be soda, cigarettes, coffee, or what ever. This is your money that you can invest. Its not our fault you decide to spend this money on something that is not needed.

$50 a month might not sound like a lot, but its $600 a year. If you are investing it, whether it be in the market, a 401k, or just a savings account, this money will add up. Everybody has money they can save. Some may have more than others.

I am one of those people that works paycheck to paycheck as well, but I understand it is my own fault. I blow my money on things that are not needed, and thats why I don't have a bunch of extra money lying around. I quit a well paying job, close to $80,000 a year, simply because I hated what I was doing. 60hrs a week just isn't for me. But it is my choice I am broke, just like it is your choice. Move to a different city with more work, get an education so you can find another job, etc. There is no one to blame for your misfortune other than yourself.
awesome post. best post I have ever read on this website
 

medicineman

New Member
For sure there are towns with no jobs unless you are related. To move from one of these to a city is a very scary thing, unless you have some kind of support system. I did this in the 50s/60s, but I had a relative to help me get started, like I stayed at my uncles house while I found a job and got my own apartment, then lived in an apartment for a year and bought my first house, something pretty hard to do these days.
 

ViRedd

New Member
"To move from one of these to a city is a very scary thing, unless you have some kind of support system."

Yes, Med ... what stand-up, red-blooded Americans REALLY need is an over-reaching, bloated federal bureaucracy to keep us all from being "scared." :clap::leaf:

Vi
 

bongrippinbob

Well-Known Member
I am not telling you to live in your car. I never lived in my car, I didn't make as many bad decisions as you, so I never had the need to live in my car. What I did say was to quit blaming people, get off your ass, and get out and do something. If it takes living in your car for a month, or living with friends, or renting a room in the ghetto for a little bit, then thats what it takes.

Quit bitching about the economy, your low paying job, and your lack of opprotunity. It is out there, you just have search and sacrifice. If you are not willing to sacrifice for a month or two in order to succeed in life, then there is something wrong with you.

Most people who have done anything with their life had to suffer for a little bit. They had to live on top ramen, didn't have t.v., etc, etc. If you cannot bring yourself to suffer for a little bit, once again you have no one to blame but yourself.

People can call me an asshole all they want, but I am speaking the truth. It is nobody's fault someone is not successful but themself. If they didn't make it in life, don't be mad at the gov, at the successful people, or anyone else. Be angry with yourself.
 

medicineman

New Member
"To move from one of these to a city is a very scary thing, unless you have some kind of support system."

Yes, Med ... what stand-up, red-blooded Americans REALLY need is an over-reaching, bloated federal bureaucracy to keep us all from being "scared." :clap::leaf:

Vi
Vi, what the hell does this have to do with my post. I was referring to friends and or family, not government.
 

tipsgnob

New Member
we need to impose a special financial sector tax to pay for
the bailouts conducted so far. We also need to create a reserve fund
so that poor taxpayers won't have to be called upon again to finance
Wall Street's foolishness.
 

iblazethatkush

Well-Known Member
I am not telling you to live in your car. I never lived in my car, I didn't make as many bad decisions as you, so I never had the need to live in my car. What I did say was to quit blaming people, get off your ass, and get out and do something. If it takes living in your car for a month, or living with friends, or renting a room in the ghetto for a little bit, then thats what it takes.

Quit bitching about the economy, your low paying job, and your lack of opprotunity. It is out there, you just have search and sacrifice. If you are not willing to sacrifice for a month or two in order to succeed in life, then there is something wrong with you.

Most people who have done anything with their life had to suffer for a little bit. They had to live on top ramen, didn't have t.v., etc, etc. If you cannot bring yourself to suffer for a little bit, once again you have no one to blame but yourself.

People can call me an asshole all they want, but I am speaking the truth. It is nobody's fault someone is not successful but themself. If they didn't make it in life, don't be mad at the gov, at the successful people, or anyone else. Be angry with yourself.
Ok. I misunderstood u dude. To get to the top most ppl have to suffer a little bit. Nothing wrong with. It's actually good for u. I agree with you. It just struck me the wrong way when u were saying soda and a house are 'luxuries'.
 

GrowRebel

Well-Known Member
I am not telling you to live in your car. I never lived in my car, I didn't make as many bad decisions as you, so I never had the need to live in my car. What I did say was to quit blaming people, get off your ass, and get out and do something.
Oh yeah ... you did ... I just don't have a very high regard for your opinion ... someone as ignorant and stupid as you couldn't possibly know what my decisions were let alone wether they were good or bad ... and I told your stupid ass before I haven't blame anyone ... and you don't know whether I'm on my ass or not ... but I can sure tell you can blow it out yours ... :lol:
If it takes living in your car for a month, or living with friends, or renting a room in the ghetto for a little bit, then thats what it takes.
For you maybe ... even though I doubt you would practice what you preach ... like I said ... everyone doesn't have to live or react to life the way you think they should ... must be hard for you to take ... :finger:

Quit bitching about the economy, your low paying job, and your lack of opprotunity. It is out there, you just have search and sacrifice. If you are not willing to sacrifice for a month or two in order to succeed in life, then there is something wrong with you.
No ... there's something wrong with you ... pretending you know things that you obviously don't ...:sleep:
Most people who have done anything with their life had to suffer for a little bit. They had to live on top ramen, didn't have t.v., etc, etc. If you cannot bring yourself to suffer for a little bit, once again you have no one to blame but yourself.
...and once again ... I didn't blame anyone ... but it blows your know it all bullshit ... so you disregard it ...
People can call me an asshole all they want, but I am speaking the truth. It is nobody's fault someone is not successful but themself. If they didn't make it in life, don't be mad at the gov, at the successful people, or anyone else. Be angry with yourself.[/quote]
Okay you are a asshole ... you don't listen ... you just want to feel important by believing you are right all the time ... you are not ...
... and I WILL be mad at the government when they are corrupt and steal from the people ... you don't like it ... tough ... :-P
 

bongrippinbob

Well-Known Member
Actually, I do practice what I preach. I've suffered, I've lived in the ghetto, I've had a car I had to push start, I've walked to the store to get food to save gas. Yes I have done all these things.

I love how I'm the ignorant one when you are the one with the low paying job and bitching about things. I am not the one that can't afford to live. I am the one with a college education and a 135 IQ. But I know, I'm stupid and ignorant.

If you were off your ass, you would be doing fine financially. You can work two jobs. You don't have to spend your time bitching online about how broke you are because of the economy. Shit, you don't need to spend your money on internet access being that you are so broke.

You keep being mad at the gov. You keep bitching and see where it gets you. You will end up doing the same thing in 10yrs that you are today. Why? Because you don't want to get off your ass or sacrifice for a better life. Opprotunity is out there, get up and chase it!
 

GrowRebel

Well-Known Member
Actually, I do practice what I preach. I've suffered, I've lived in the ghetto, I've had a car I had to push start, I've walked to the store to get food to save gas. Yes I have done all these things.

So have I ... so wrong again ... but no surprises there ...

I love how I'm the ignorant one when you are the one with the low paying job and bitching about things. I am not the one that can't afford to live. I am the one with a college education and a 135 IQ. But I know, I'm stupid and ignorant.
You're right ... you are not ignorant ... I have given you the facts ... so you are just plain :dunce: You prove how limited intelligence ... or so called ... can be ... and I bitch about corruption in government ... you don't like it ... tough ... but someone with your IQ is obviously too intelligent to be politically aware ... you'd rather spend your time trying to build yourself up by bragging about your high paying job ... that you no longer have ... and your high IQ ... that you fail to use ... you act like your shit don't stink ... but it wreaks ...


If you were off your ass, you would be doing fine financially. You can work two jobs. You don't have to spend your time bitching online about how broke you are because of the economy. Shit, you don't need to spend your money on internet access being that you are so broke.
... and again I don't plan on basing my life or decisions on some asshole who thinks he know it all and has all the answers ... folks this Einstein think he know what I do during my day ... what "bad" decisions I've made in my life and how and why I spend my money! ... WTF is someone this brilliant doing on a pot board? ... You don't know a fucking think about me ... so stop pretending that you do ... get of your ass and get back to that job that's making you soooo much more money than me ... but all that shit is bullshit isn't it? ... you don't have a car ... a home ... a job ... your in the fucking basement of your mother house... get out of her house you bum ... get a job ... and a life ... and get off the friggin computer ... you don't have the time.

You keep being mad at the gov. You keep bitching and see where it gets you. You will end up doing the same thing in 10yrs that you are today. Why? Because you don't want to get off your ass or sacrifice for a better life. Opprotunity is out there, get up and chase it!
Yeah ... I will ... yeah I will see where it get me ... better government .... and so will you ... you will still be in your mother's basement playing on the internet ... Why? ... because you don't want to get up off you ass and get out of your mother's house ... you bum. Opportunity is out there you bum ... at least pay the poor woman rent ... and buy some food for a change ... geeezzzz ... :roll:
 
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