The Democratic Party Autopsy Report

ChefKimbo

ChefKimbo

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see4 said:
Yea, I was just going to say, this Chef dude is a sovereign citizen moron.
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Take the time to learn where the term sovereign citizen comes before you parrot some other buffoon's uninformed nonsense, you illiterate troll.
 
londonfog

londonfog

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Rob Roy said:
Still thinking about your relationships with the guys in prison eh? Does your wife know about this ?
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Before I decide to focus on the development of our youth I took an interest in helping the incarcerated. What the fuck do you do to help the society that you live in? I mean besides using the system then bitching about it.
 
Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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londonfog said:
Before I decide to focus on the development of our youth I took an interest in helping the incarcerated. What the fuck do you do to help the society that you live in? I mean besides using the system then bitching about it.
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I help individuals that I know need help. My old bones are tired, today I helped a person with transportation to get to work and I also shoveled snow off a seniors roof.

I help people whose minds are imprisoned. You could be doing life if you don't change your ways.
 
PCXV

PCXV

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Rob Roy said:
It is not up to the victim of a crime to justify complying with the criminal if they are placed in danger for failing to comply. Would you ask a rape victim a similar question?

A slave ? Me? That's really funny, but NO. A slave believes his master has a right to do what he does, that would be you.

Merit? So, you are saying it's okay to initiate aggression against people who aren't aggressing against you, if there is profit in it? I hope your neighbors lock their doors when you are prowling the streets.
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It's not rape or slavery when someone is being fairly compensated and has decided to live under the laws and tax system of a government.

You are a slave by your own definition, since you don't have any plans to escape the plantation. A slave is not free to leave, which all of your analogies omit. You are free to leave at any time yet you don't. Actions speak louder than your empty words.

By denying people service based on racism you are harming the other person and threatening the safety and prosperity of the society. Authority and laws are justified as measures to maintain order and justice and promote prosperity and fairness. They do curb self-determination, but they are justified in doing so. Relying on vigilantism with no accountability, transparency, or due process is reckless and primitive. It will insure chaos, not justice and peace.
 
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Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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PCXV said:
It's rape or slavery when someone is fairly compensated and decides to be a part of a society that has a public sector that relies on taxes.

You are a slave by your own definition, since you don't have any plans to escape the plantation. A slave is not free to leave, which all of your analogies omit. You are free to leave at any time yet you don't. Actions speak louder than your empty words.

By denying people service based on racism you are harming the other person and threatening the safety and prosperity of the society. Authority the laws are justified as measures to maintain order and promote prosperity and fairness. They do curb self-determination, but they are justified in doing so.
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If a person has no choice in something and they are forced to fund it anyway or lose their house, you believe that's okay?

If foreign wars were voluntarily funded only would you pay for them ? Why?

No, I am a runaway slave, you are an obedient slave, slave, defending your own bondage.
 
PCXV

PCXV

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Rob Roy said:
If a person has no choice in something and they are forced to fund it anyway or lose their house, you believe that's okay?

If foreign wars were voluntarily funded only would you pay for them ? Why?

No, I am a runaway slave, you are an obedient slave, slave, defending your own bondage.
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They bought that house knowing the laws of the government that controls that land, so yes. If the inherited it, they could have sold it and moved, or under your ideology they would refuse compensation in "slave notes" and turn down the inheritance on principle. Freedom of choice remains.

You are not a runaway slave if you are still living and paying taxes in the US. Actions. I am not a slave, I choose to live here and abide by the laws. I am compensated for my work. Your comparison to slavery is laughable.
 
Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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PCXV said:
They bought that house knowing the laws of the government that controls that land, so yes. If the inherited it, they could have sold it and moved, or under your ideology they would refuse compensation in "slave notes" and turn down the inheritance on principle. Freedom of choice remains.

You are not a runaway slave if you are still living and paying taxes in the US. Actions. I am not a slave, I choose to live here and abide by the laws. I am compensated for my work. Your comparison to slavery is laughable.
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So would you voluntarily fund foreign wars of USA aggression?
 
PCXV

PCXV

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Rob Roy said:
So would you voluntarily fund foreign wars of USA aggression?
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Depends on the merit of the conflict. Currently, I stay here and pay what it takes to do so. If it ever got unbearable I would try to leave. I trust in the will of the majority of people; democracy ensures fairness and prosperity. At least it does when citizens take their civic duty seriously and perform due diligence to check and balance government bureaucracy.
 
Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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PCXV said:
Depends on the merit of the conflict. Currently, I stay here and pay what it takes to do so. If it ever got unbearable I would try to leave. I trust in the will of the majority of people; democracy ensures fairness and prosperity. At least it does when citizens take their civic duty seriously and perform due diligence to check and balance government bureaucracy.
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So you agree with every foreign aggression the USA has undertaken ?
 
SneekyNinja

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PCXV said:
Depends on the merit of the conflict. Currently, I stay here and pay what it takes to do so. If it ever got unbearable I would try to leave. I trust in the will of the majority of people; democracy ensures fairness and prosperity. At least it does when citizens take their civic duty seriously and perform due diligence to check and balance government bureaucracy.
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We don't have Democracy.

Democracy doesn't ignore nearly 4 million votes and give the prize to the loser.
 
PCXV

PCXV

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SneekyNinja said:
We don't have Democracy.

Democracy doesn't ignore nearly 4 million votes and give the prize to the loser.
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The people reserve the power to rectify the law. It is a Republic, there is a bureaucracy, there is corruption, but we have democratic mechanisms to effect change.

I would like to make our Republic more democratic by eliminating the electoral college.
 
Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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PCXV said:
No, and I have the freedom to speak against them and the people ultimately reserve the power to end those wars.
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Sorry that you and your grandchildren will be forced to pay for them...against your will...like a slave.

So what of the power to end domestic wars, you know like the one waged against you, when you are forced to pay for murder abroad?
 
ChefKimbo

ChefKimbo

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PCXV said:
I am free to leave anytime I want. You two have done a very poor job convincing me to do so.

What do you call pretending to abide by voluntarism while mooching off the the system you call slavery?
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I fail to understand how you can assume that just because someone would rather not be forced to pay taxes mean that they are a public charge. You would think that the increasing lack of transparency with government spending would trigger Americans to demand transparency and higher accountability. Any of you slaves remember the missing $1 trillion dollars? I'm sure you don't. In fact, earlier this year an ex-CIA who worked as an operative in the Middle East was interviewed by CNN. He stated multiple times during this interview that the #1 reason Americans are hated abroad is because they WILLFULLY pay taxes without prejudice and support aggresive military strategies against lawfully sovereign nations. Taxpayers prop up the same government that upheld that the media has the right to lie to its viewers. Everyone knows the psychological effects the news media has on the people. A nation of willfully ignorant taxpayers is what fuels the U.S. War machine.

Stockholm Syndrome.

The right to contract is upheld by the U.S. Constitution. If i own land, then it is in my right to contract with the government. For example providing access for the construction and use of pipelines and highways. Land is leased to businesses to provide services for surrounding communities. This is how things were done prior to the 1930s. There is no law forcing any human being to pay income taxes. Only corporations are forced to pay income taxes, partly because in this country a CORPORATION can not exist outside of the UNITED STATES. This does not apply to human beings who have the unalienable right to exist or ACT (NOT LIVE OR RESIDE)outside of the UNITED STATES.

If you cannot grasp the very last sentence, then you lack the understanding of what is PUBLIC and PRIVATE in commerce. And if you are willfully paying taxes, You should atleast want to know that your labor is not part of the reason innocent lives are being taken for profit and land control.
 
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