Flushed too early?

[deeh]

Have a few white widow 55 days into flower, this plant in question is the largest of them all with the biggest buds...pistils are mostly white and stivking straight out although some are jus starting to turn light orange... all cloudy trics...plant has mostly yellow leaves right up too the fan leaves under top cola...
Yesterday i flushed all plants but this 1 in question seems to be behind the others in maturity...have i flushed too early on this one? If stripping this plant of any nutrients in soil, could i have affected its ripening? Photo below doesnt look as yellow as it does in person will get better pics up later....

 

[blake9999]

Don't Flush... Just Don't Do It!

 

[deeh]

Don't Flush... Just Don't Do It!

People say do...some say dont....i recently harvested 6 amnesia xxl autos at 84 days due to finding nanners and didnt flush..ended up with a "weird" taste,i put this down to being "unflushed" didnt want this harvest end up with the same fate so went down the flushing route...

 

[vostok]

IMO: DF WW..to flush or not is a personnel? preference above all.

if 'organic' like FFOF I wouldn't but only re-amend and re-use 2-3 times

crappy non organic soils (MG.Kellogs. etc) I would flush

as in truth any peat or moss in your mix is just a wasted effort

as moss etc will hold annoying nutes and in volume too

good luck

 

[deeh]

IMO: DF WW..to flush or not is a personnel? preference above all.

if 'organic' like FFOF I wouldn't but only re-amend and re-use 2-3 times

crappy non organic soils (MG.Kellogs. etc) I would flush

as in truth any peat or moss in your mix is just a wasted effort

as moss etc will hold annoying nutes and in volume too

good luck

Thanks....Medium is bio bizz and nutes are canna...

 

[elfo777]

Thanks....Medium is bio bizz and nutes are canna...

I have the same setup. I fed until the last day (growing a cbd strain) and din't notice any weird flavor. After drying the herb is tasty and it will only get better. In fact, it tastes better than when I was flushing in the early days.

Just my experience.

 

[Ablaze]

Why would you want to deprive that beautiful girl of anything? I'd be buying her jewelry, a new car, taking her out to dinner.....

If you're in soil, I doubt you did much by flushing.

 

[deeh]

Shows off yellowing better....

 

[deeh]

Just over 8 weeks 12/12 most of plants leaves are yellow... should i feed?

 

[Richard Drysift]

Not if you plan on chopping her in the next few weeks. Stripping the medium of nutrients will not affect maturation. Buds will continue to develop even if the plant is starving. The fans can turn yellow to red or blue yet the trichomes/buds will continue to ripen as normal. Flushing is like overwatering; just water as normal until harvest maybe slightly less; desert conditions.

 

[Huckster79]

Id say personal preference as both work... i prefer the slow n steady approach and work hard to never overfeed her, i see no real benefit to be had by killing a plant by starvation. But i feel most plants are way over nuted their entire life, probably including mine even with as light as i feed.

 

[Dr. Who]

People say do...some say dont....i recently harvested 6 amnesia xxl autos at 84 days due to finding nanners and didnt flush..ended up with a "weird" taste,i put this down to being "unflushed" didnt want this harvest end up with the same fate so went down the flushing route...

Gary G is right! Same shit, another day!

I got asked about this in a PM by a member after seeing the disaster another thread became. He asked where to find books and papers on "flushing" and said he might try the "fade".

Here's my answer to him......I felt it needs to be seen,,,,,,again!

Your looking for post grad work. You would do better to search papers......The thing is, NOTHING in agriculture gets 'flushed" and that leads to little to no research in the area. You see, the thing is, the whole "idea" of "flushing is nonsense! Plants don't work that way! They do not take up nutrients or salts as most of you think of them! They do not "store" them in the sense you think of them! Not only that, but the nutritional "stores" in a plant are not in buds or budding or flowers! NO amount of "flushing" will "exchange" plant "stored" nutrition back "out" of the plant! Scientifically impossible by the way most of you guys understand......Ok, that's my word on "flushing". (No one listens to this in threads if they don't want to hear it or accept it.)

Now then, you propose the "FADE TO FINISH" method. Great idea in theory but, and this IS a BIG BUT! Remember when I said above that "the nutritional "stores" in a plant are not in buds or budding or flowers!" ? This shoots that theory in the ass right away. You see the main amount of stored nutrition is in either the roots and the rest in leaves and some in small amounts in transit in the phloam (the sap that actually moves the nutrients around the plant)......

Now when you "starve a plant" it will draw from it's self by actually breaking down the needed parts of it's self to do an "emergency" attempt to reproduce! (This can happen in certain plants even in veg! A kind of last ditch effort to continue the species.)

With that in mind you take the fact that the plant is not "moving" nutrients "out" of buds, but into them to speed growth and as fast as it can - "reproduce". This single minded process the plant now puts it's self on causes the plant to stress it's self. This self induced stress can, in many cases if done long enough, lead the plant to go bisexual, and produce "banana's" in a last ditch effort to reproduce and "carry on the line" and produce seeds...

Basically put, In reality you are moving nutrients that you're "attempting" to get rid of,,right to where your trying to remove them from! You are also stressing the plant in the way for "Herming" to actually happen easier!

I and many others that have tried to convey this actual plant science, are called everything you can think of and those 'impossible of understanding these facts", fight so hard against us that many of us have simply chosen to avoid the issue or don't fight to hard.

Anyway, there you are in as short and sweet and as simple/understandable as I can...

The thing is you have to understand Botany and Horticulture (and there are LOTS of subsections to those that are involved here) to truly put together the pieces of the puzzle to get your head wrapped around the idea that flushing and the "fade" don't work for what they are intended or alleged to actually do!

There you go Mods, nice, polite and to the point. (Sorry about the other thread Sunni)

There you go, Now have at it!
I'm stepping back to watch the circus.

Read this too!

https://www.rollitup.org/t/the-truth-about-flushing.409622/

 

[Huckster79]

Gary G is right! Same shit, another day!

I got asked about this in a PM by a member after seeing the disaster another thread became. He asked where to find books and papers on "flushing" and said he might try the "fade".

Here's my answer to him......I felt it needs to be seen,,,,,,again!

Your looking for post grad work. You would do better to search papers......The thing is, NOTHING in agriculture gets 'flushed" and that leads to little to no research in the area. You see, the thing is, the whole "idea" of "flushing is nonsense! Plants don't work that way! They do not take up nutrients or salts as most of you think of them! They do not "store" them in the sense you think of them! Not only that, but the nutritional "stores" in a plant are not in buds or budding or flowers! NO amount of "flushing" will "exchange" plant "stored" nutrition back "out" of the plant! Scientifically impossible by the way most of you guys understand......Ok, that's my word on "flushing". (No one listens to this in threads if they don't want to hear it or accept it.)

Now then, you propose the "FADE TO FINISH" method. Great idea in theory but, and this IS a BIG BUT! Remember when I said above that "the nutritional "stores" in a plant are not in buds or budding or flowers!" ? This shoots that theory in the ass right away. You see the main amount of stored nutrition is in either the roots and the rest in leaves and some in small amounts in transit in the phloam (the sap that actually moves the nutrients around the plant)......

Now when you "starve a plant" it will draw from it's self by actually breaking down the needed parts of it's self to do an "emergency" attempt to reproduce! (This can happen in certain plants even in veg! A kind of last ditch effort to continue the species.)

With that in mind you take the fact that the plant is not "moving" nutrients "out" of buds, but into them to speed growth and as fast as it can - "reproduce". This single minded process the plant now puts it's self on causes the plant to stress it's self. This self induced stress can, in many cases if done long enough, lead the plant to go bisexual, and produce "banana's" in a last ditch effort to reproduce and "carry on the line" and produce seeds...

Basically put, In reality you are moving nutrients that you're "attempting" to get rid of,,right to where your trying to remove them from! You are also stressing the plant in the way for "Herming" to actually happen easier!

I and many others that have tried to convey this actual plant science, are called everything you can think of and those 'impossible of understanding these facts", fight so hard against us that many of us have simply chosen to avoid the issue or don't fight to hard.

Anyway, there you are in as short and sweet and as simple/understandable as I can...

The thing is you have to understand Botany and Horticulture (and there are LOTS of subsections to those that are involved here) to truly put together the pieces of the puzzle to get your head wrapped around the idea that flushing and the "fade" don't work for what they are intended or alleged to actually do!

There you go Mods, nice, polite and to the point. (Sorry about the other thread Sunni)

There you go, Now have at it!
I'm stepping back to watch the circus.

Read this too!

https://www.rollitup.org/t/the-truth-about-flushing.409622/

Makes sense to me