BLACK MAGIC POTTING SOIL

cyoho84s

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Has tried that black magic potting soil...I have used there smartpots and the trays for starters...but I'm curious to know if anyone has had any luck with it?
 

dtl420

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All soil can be made into good soil. But looking at the ingredients on google it looks like some good dirt. Try it and show us how it works. I've got an organic plant in some dr earth that I spiced up a bit, and it's doing very well.
 

dtl420

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Like one in soil and one in straight coco, or mixing more coco into the soil? The 2 mediums are much more different than they seem. I always see people on here trying to grow in soil, but they're feeding it a hydro nutrient like it's coco. If you use synthetics in soil, you wait till the plant has been in the soil for about a month (or when she starts looking hungry) then you feed her and don't feed her again till she looks hungry again. Soil can be forgiving until you start feeding with every watering, then you get salt buildup, lockout, pH issues, and you're microbes get upset leading to the over reproduction of non beneficial microbes. The best thing to do in soil is organic in my opinion. I have also collected one hell of a lineup of organic amendments and liquid concentrates over the years, so I can easily keep up with the diet of organics.
 

cyoho84s

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Like one in soil and one in straight coco, or mixing more coco into the soil? The 2 mediums are much more different than they seem. I always see people on here trying to grow in soil, but they're feeding it a hydro nutrient like it's coco. If you use synthetics in soil, you wait till the plant has been in the soil for about a month (or when she starts looking hungry) then you feed her and don't feed her again till she looks hungry again. Soil can be forgiving until you start feeding with every watering, then you get salt buildup, lockout, pH issues, and you're microbes get upset leading to the over reproduction of non beneficial microbes. The best thing to do in soil is organic in my opinion. I have also collected one hell of a lineup of organic amendments and liquid concentrates over the years, so I can easily keep up with the diet of organics.
Currently I am using and advanced nutrients perfect ph micro grow and bloom.
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dtl420

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Looks like a soilless mix, just like coco. Treat it like hydro if you want hydro yields or soil if you want soil yields. I love soilless mediums. I just mix the 5kg bricks of coco from ebay with MG perlite from walmart, I use the Dina-gro line minus the mag pro and KLN.
 

cyoho84s

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Looks like a soilless mix, just like coco. Treat it like hydro if you want hydro yields or soil if you want soil yields. I love soilless mediums. I just mix the 5kg bricks of coco from ebay with MG perlite from walmart, I use the Dina-gro line minus the mag pro and KLN.
I have considered making my own media...Just wanted to start off with something I know would work...didn't want to experiment right off the bat. I'm still pretty new to this just starting growing in August 2017
 

dtl420

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I have considered making my own media...Just wanted to start off with something I know would work...didn't want to experiment right off the bat. I'm still pretty new to this just starting growing in August 2017
You're on the right path. The coco from ebay doesn't require much work, just hydrate with pH adjusted tap water, drain, and about 15-20% perlite by volume. It doesn't have to be exact, just don't get excessive with the perlite unless you plan on setting up an automated watering/DTW sort of system. A lot of people on here successfully just use strait coco with no perlite, but I like to have all the oxygen I can in my mediums.

But if you want to get something that will work great straight out of the bag there are several options. I've always heard great things about promix.
 

dtl420

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I have used it many times its good but has those small fert balls in it
Their ingredients don't mention any timed release fertilizers. Are you sure that's not just some of the organic amendments? Or perlite? I'm not sure if it's OMRI listed, but based on the ingredients it looks pretty organic.
 

cyoho84s

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Their ingredients don't mention any timed release fertilizers. Are you sure that's not just some of the organic amendments? Or perlite? I'm not sure if it's OMRI listed, but based on the ingredients it looks pretty organic.
Which media are you talking about?
 

cyoho84s

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Gotcha...I am gonna try some of the coco mix and the soil that black magic makes on my next set of clones..half will be soil other half coco mix
 

dtl420

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http://www.horticulturesource.com/product_info.php?products_id=20372&gclid=CjwKCAiA4vbSBRBNEiwAMorER4y52B0oUnNTiob6jnA3620R6M0j0YuHovr13zmcWO7QU49V9a5gZxoCE18QAvD_BwE

This is the promix I spoke of (first one that popped up on google so I'm sure these a cheaper source out there). It's only about $15 difference from the black magic but you get over twice the volume. But promix is a soilless medium. I guess it all depends on what you want to do. I'm going to give the promix a shot in my next round. My mentor has preached about it every since I started, but I've always just done coco and perlite since I started growing soilless.
 

Smokinr33

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Their ingredients don't mention any timed release fertilizers. Are you sure that's not just some of the organic amendments? Or perlite? I'm not sure if it's OMRI listed, but based on the ingredients it looks pretty organic.
Not sure but its yellow and when i squeeze it it pops and has juice in it
 
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