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Blitz35

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With that reply, i think you've shown you're kind of all over the place. 'Mycos are no longer needed to dissolve nutients? lol. Mycos don't dissolve nutrients..in any case, this has nothing to do with the op's post, and you have gone way off topic and seriously, making very little sense in what you say. Epsom salt will not 'attach; itself to other salts to flush them out, i don't know what folklore led you to that assumption. i don't have time for this 'debate' as clearly, you seem unarmed:) Happy growing, and happy reading, take care!
 
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max420thc

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Blitz35 said:
With that reply, i think you've shown you're kind of all over the place. 'Mycos are no longer needed to dissolve nutients? lol. Mycos don't dissolve nutrients..in any case, this has nothing to do with the op's post, and you have gone way off topic and seriously, making very little sense in what you say. Epsom salt will not 'attach; itself to other salts to flush them out, i don't know what folklore led you to that assumption. i don't have time for this 'debate' as clearly, you seem unarmed:) Happy growing, and happy reading, take care!
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What do bennificial bacteria do? Why do growers use work casting with almost no nutritional value at all? Why do people feed their plants carbs and sugars? Lol
You need to stop giving people out advice until you learn what you are doing first .
Bennificial bacteria eat the sources of carbs and nutrients from the fertilizers you feed it. Then they poop it out. Much like what comes out of your mouth.
Then the plant can up take those nutrients and carbs much better , they work together unlike roll it up members fighting arguing and bickering all the time.
 
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Blitz35

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Carbs and sugars? what road are you going down on??? LOL..you're jumping left to right throwing false statements out there. Seem you're in search of a tutoring lesson in plant biology. I'd say read up on it, do your research, from the looks of it, you don't seem to read much..its "bennificial" in the longrun ;) You don't feed the plants sugars egghead, the plant produces sugars..my oh my..this was a waste of my time, have fun dissolving your salts with other salts lol
Just for the record son, you started this with me by going on a tirade about me saying the lucas formula doesn't work and why would i say that...which i never did..then you wandered off on other subjects that you make no sense with whatsoever, i didnt start this, but im finishing it!
 
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max420thc

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Blitz35 said:
Carbs and sugars? what road are you going down on??? LOL..you're jumping left to right throwing false statements out there. Seem you're in search of a tutoring lesson in plant biology. I'd say read up on it, do your research, from the looks of it, you don't seem to read much..its "bennificial" in the longrun ;) You don't feed the plants sugars egghead, the plant produces sugars..my oh my..this was a waste of my time, have fun dissolving your salts with other salts lol
Just for the record son, you started this with me by going on a tirade about me saying the lucas formula doesn't work and why would i say that...which i never did..then you wandered off on other subjects that you make no sense with whatsoever, i didnt start this, but im finishing it!
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Someone in here mentioned a PH of five would harm your plants, MOST growers set there PH to high in my opinion. It's there garden they can run it by way they want to.
I just showed a perfect example of how that is soooo wrong.
Also it is wrong to think microbes in your growing media ( not just soil ) do not consume the nutrients and sugars/ carbs . Same thing basically. To bad you don't get that as it has been common knowledge for over a century now .
I suppose you think the Earth is flat too.
But it's not.
And no they do not eat the salt and poop it out , but they do eat the nutrients off of the salt and poop it out then the plant uptakes those nutrients better.
 
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Blitz35

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You must be a sac of doorknobs lol. Was it me who mentioned that below 5 ph can never work? NO! You seem to have hallucinated this fact for some reason. Also, did you not see me write in my molasses reply that the microbes AMONG OTHER THINGS, eat the sugars from the molasses. What the hell are you saying about eating salt and pooping it out??? You said epsom salt dissolves other salts and flushes them..now you're talking about microbes not eating salts. You have a serious comprehension problem..and again..your level of writing is quite bad, evident you do not read at all, which is no surprise based on yuor posts! Goodbye, i dont have time to tutor autistic high school kids with something as complicated as this. Im trying to dumb it down for you, and still you don't understand anything lol. Going off on your rants with baseless and all over the place explanations lol. insinuating i said things that i never did, on that note, hopefully it's good shit you're smoking and that's why you sound fried!
 
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max420thc

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Blitz35 said:
You must be a sac of doorknobs lol. Was it me who mentioned that below 5 ph can never work? NO! You seem to have hallucinated this fact for some reason. Also, did you not see me write in my molasses reply that the microbes AMONG OTHER THINGS, eat the sugars from the molasses. What the hell are you saying about eating salt and pooping it out??? You said epsom salt dissolves other salts and flushes them..now you're talking about microbes not eating salts. You have a serious comprehension problem..and again..your level of writing is quite bad, evident you do not read at all, which is no surprise based on yuor posts! Goodbye, i dont have time to tutor autistic high school kids with something as complicated as this. Im trying to dumb it down for you, and still you don't understand anything lol. Going off on your rants with baseless and all over the place explanations lol. insinuating i said things that i never did, on that note, hopefully it's good shit you're smoking and that's why you sound fried!
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Yep yep. Millions of growers have been doing it wrong for decades . You are right and they are all wrong . Lol
 
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Blitz35

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max420thc said:
Yep yep. Millions of growers have been doing it wrong for decades . You are right and they are all wrong . Lol
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That's more of your delusion lol. Where in the world did i say millions of growers are wrong..wrong about what??? LOL You decided to fabricate something in your head, and are holding it against me and have decided to start an 'argument' about something i never ever said...all i said was YOU were wrong in your posts...way way way wrong, i have no idea what you're referring to about other growers lol. This was actually comical..my colleagues are sitting next to me laughing at this thread because yes..it is funny..i thank you for that...hopefully you're not a troll, which would ruin it, as the only reason it's funny is that supposedly this was coming from a 'sane' person:) Hopefully the op got a kick out of it, and is a lesson to them to be careful what you believe in forums, they are filled with nonsense like this! :)
 
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braves1995

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Nutty sKunK said:
To OP. Magnesium increases the availability of Nitrogen. I would personally dose them with some Epsom Salts.

Here’s a handy chart! Helped me out loads.
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Thanks for the info. Just an update. I have fed twice with cal mag and foxfarms boomerang combined at about 3/4 recommended dose with water at 6.25 ph. The plants look much improved and I think I’m on the right track. Thanks for the help and cheap entertainment everyone!!
 
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max420thc

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Tangerine_ said:
I vermicompost and its probably one of the most important additions to ROLS. Just because the bag in the store list it at 0-0-1 doesn't mean that's all that in there.
IMO, worm castings are invaluable to organic growers.
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I agree worm castings are great, but more for the biological benefits of it.
For micro I really like azomite ,
 
Chunky Stool

Chunky Stool

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max420thc said:
That's because your a egg head that over thinks thing and it was used as a example. What the point of using Epson salt if the man said he had not been feeding them as Epson salt are normally used to dissolve nutrients salt built up in the media . Testing the run off of your PH gives you some sort of idea wether your PH is messed up or not.
You act like it's hard to do.
God damn just PH some food pour it into the plant catch little water and check the PH .
God damn geniuses all.over roll it up
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WTF?
Epsom salts = magnesium sulfate, both of which are essential plant nutrients. (Magnesium is mobile, sulfur is not.)
 
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max420thc

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Chunky Stool said:
WTF?
Epsom salts = magnesium sulfate, both of which are essential plant nutrients. (Magnesium is mobile, sulfur is not.)
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Old school growers before there were ever flushing solutions made , long long ago used Epson salt to loosen up other salts caught in the growing medium so they flush out easier, it makes logical sense to me.
Maybe no one but us old farts get it.
 
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