Greenpoint seeds!!

[coppershot]

Flower times really don't bother me. I veg and move in when there is space. However, as Amos mentioned, everyone runs what works for them and the difference or inconsistent flower times listed could seriously impact setups.

That said, I am sure that there is an explanation, and frankly even if Gu clarifies the flower time, i suspect many will still be skeptical. Hopefully some of the grows in this thread and other documented grows can shine light on the flower times.

 

[genuity]

He said if you want to chop at 60 than chop at 60, not if it's ready/done at 60 chop at 60. No one here is arguing that they should be done exactly when the pack says, I think everyone on this thread agrees that the listed flowering time is more of a reference than anything else. The issue some people are concerned with is the discrepancy between the website description and what the pack says. If I buy a pack that says 50-60 days and another that says 70-80 days there is a very good chance the 70-80 day pack will take longer to flower than the 50-60 day pack. 90+% of the gear I've grown is finished in the upper range of the estimated flowering time. Just because flowering time may not be important to you doesn't mean that it isn't crucial to someone else. Get it now?

If you grow that pack that says 70-80 days,and end up with plants that look done to you at 60 days,are you going to run them to the packs time frame?

I just don't get the whole false advertising claim... you can look at some of the write ups,and find mistakes.it happens.

 

[Bakersfield]

it just does not take the time to transition into flower like a seeded plant.once a plant begins to throw hairs is when I count the weeks.not how long it takes 12 12 to initiate.some guys start the weeks from the day they flip.clones will begin way sooner but take a strain like ghost train haze.its still gonna take 10 to 11 weeks as soon as it starts to throw hairs.from seed it might take 13 weeks as soon as you flip to 12.

Dude your talking in circles.
I personally quite paying attention as soon as someone claims that flowering time is started after the appearance of flowers and not on the day the light flip.
FLOWERING TIMES ARE BASED ON THE DATE YOU FLIP THE LIGHTS TO 12/12. It's pretty black and white.

 

[Amos Otis]

If you grow that pack that says 70-80 days,and end up with plants that look done to you at 60 days,are you going to run them to the packs time frame?

I just don't get the whole false advertising claim... you can look at some of the write ups,and find mistakes.it happens.

Not addressed to me, but...

1. I don't grow that pack.
2. If you saw 'mistakes' in the Breeders Boutique site about Fireballs, my guess is you'd correct them - am I right?

 

[psychadelibud]

Now in the meantime, back to the thread...

I got these wonderful packs in the mailbox today that I scored cheap last week in the auction. Last package I received the other day, was an exact replica of this one.

Now have three packs of Dreamcatcher, three of Raindance and 10 of Night Rider.

Looking forward to that loooonnnngggg flowering period I will soon encounter and the huge boutique of chemmy, sticky, resin driven buds!

YeeeHaww!

And that is one of 48 cuttings I took today of Gg4 that imma be workin' with on these wonderful stardawg crosses...

 

[Tangerine_]

I know a lot of shit gets lost in translation but it seems every few days there's a new shit show going down. Last week a couple of you were at each others throats. This week y'all are BFFs.
Either way I'm out. Its Saturday and.......

 

[genuity]

Not addressed to me, but...

1. I don't grow that pack.
2. If you saw 'mistakes' in the Breeders Boutique site about Fireballs, my guess is you'd correct them - am I right?

That's not my cross..1.
So you really sitting here saying a mistake on a seed pack/description,will not get grown in your room?2.

Hmmmm.

 

[Bakersfield]

@Bakersfield I just quoted your post. This was definitely not towards you. It is obvious and should be very obvious everyone knows who the cry babies are around here.

It's all good! I agree with both sides of this fight. I hope @Gu fixes the problem with the flowering times and we can all be a happy family again.

 

[Amos Otis]

That's not my cross..1.
So you really sitting here saying a mistake on a seed pack/description,will not get grown in your room?2.

Hmmmm.

I'm saying that a strain who's breeder says goes beyond 70 days will not be bought by me, so yes, it will then not be grown by me.

Also, Breeders Boutique says, about Fireballs: "Fireballs was gifted to Breeders Boutique from a friend and one of the tightest growers we have seen, “Genuity” in the USA."

It's also credited to you on the first page of the Chuckers Paradise thread - by you.

 

[naiveCon]

Just maybe the stickers got misprinted...

This makes me think of my junior high days watching all the pretty young girls flowering,

Some flowered early and some flowered late, but they were all pretty damn fine in the end...

 

[Bakersfield]

I'm saying that a strain who's breeder says goes beyond 70 days will not be bought by me, so yes, it will then not be grown by me.

You and probably 80% of seed buyers.

 

[Vato_504]

Give me this 70 Day pheno right here.

 

[led2076]

ha ha ha
I love this show

 

[genuity]

I'm saying that a strain who's breeder says goes beyond 70 days will not be bought by me, so yes, it will then not be grown by me.

Also, Breeders Boutique says, about Fireballs: "Fireballs was gifted to Breeders Boutique from a friend and one of the tightest growers we have seen, “Genuity” in the USA."

It's also credited to you on the first page of the Chuckers Paradise thread - by you.

Gifted...means no longer belongs to me.

 

[Amos Otis]

Gifted...means no longer belongs to me.

 

[Heisengrow]

Dude your talking in circles.
I personally quite paying attention as soon as someone claims that flowering time is started after the appearance of flowers and not on the day the light flip.
FLOWERING TIMES ARE BASED ON THE DATE YOU FLIP THE LIGHTS TO 12/12. It's pretty black and white.

So why does a mature plant start to flower immediately and immature plants might take 3 weeks to throw the first preflower.i think starting the clock the minute you flip is counter productive.some plants in seed just take longer to begin to flower than others.i have 2 ghost OG right this minute that look about 6 weeks apart that were flipped the same day.one didnt' start to even throw hairs till 3 weeks after flip.the other started right away and looks like it has 2 weeks left.i would never count seeded plants flowering period after the flip.some just take longer.take a clone from the same slow ass plant and it will begin to flower alot sooner after flip because the plant has matured.so your saying even though it will take 2 weeks less now because it' a clone I should still expect the plant to go 13 weeks cause the seeded one took 13 weeks after I flipped it.lol come on man that don' make any sense.ALOT of growers start the weeks after the first preflowers appear.if a plant isn't ready to flower it might take an extra 2 weeks before it even begins to pre. flower.
I use to count from the days after I flipped but it was inconsistent from clones of already finished plants and ones from seeds.irs way easier for me.to schedule my grows now from the weeks after I see the first hairs after flip.

 

[Adrosmokin]

Thanks for the tip!
The light cycle also changes outdoors as daylight hours gradually diminish.

I'm thinking the best course of action is to go with a strain that was made for this area: 'Vashon Early Bird'.

Kinda sucks because I bought three strains from GPS to run outdoors and all three have flower times that are longer than expected.
Might be fine, might not.
Dunno.

I will run them indoors eventually, or trade for clones.

I second his comment, it's all about when they start flowering outdoor. I had a strain I made take 12 weeks indoor for me, gave the clone to a buddy to run outdoor, he said it finished the quickest.

 

[Heisengrow]

My scotts og takes 8 weeks to finish dead nutz from clone.it took 10 weeks when I grew from seed after I flipped.which one should I count?absolutely would start the clock on clones because they already have preflowers so of course I would start from moment of flip.but from seeds is different.some plants will drag ass to throw any pre flowers.it takes force flowering to make them flower even if they're not ready.so there' no way the same time will lapse after flip on seeded plants.thats all on was saying.
Seed plants are completely different from clones.

 

[psychadelibud]

I believe when I started my search for "trip weed" back around 6 years ago is when I stopped caring about flowering times.

I used to only purchase seeds based on breeders harvest dates. Then after I got a whole big bunch of years under my belt, I realized that unless you are growing out a landrace sativa, or heavily sativa dominant plant such as hazes, thais, zamals, crosses of those etc, the date advertised on that pack of seeds honestly did not matter.

You might get a pack of northern lights and find phenos finishing in 7 weeks and some finishing in 9 weeks. You get yourself some Zamal or Thais and you might as well be expecting 14 to 20 weeks.....

Then, say if one is planning on growing out lets say "Stardawg" crosses you better bet your gonna be looking at 9 weeks plus if you are familiar with stardawg and know your strains. It is always a good idea to read into the history of the plant you plan to grow such as "Stardawg" which has a tendency to run 70 plus days.

But anyway what I was getting at was when I started my search for trip weed, I finally bit the bullet and grabbed a bunch of Ace Seeds gear. Malawis, Golden Tigers, Thais, pure hazes, Zamaldelica... Etc etc..

For the first time I ran a plant over 14 weeks. Took Zamaldelica to 18 and a half weeks and still could have went longer. But I have to say the yield made up for the lost time as I scored an astounding 5 ounces off the Zamaldelica in a 2 gallon container of some very potent psychedelic flower. Everyone thought she was laced. Everyone was having panic attacks and heart attacks like they had never experienced before trying to swallow the knot in their throat.

People paid well for her. Golden tiger the same. Malawi the same.

But after running those it kinda "seasoned" me and broke me in. I have since ran at least 9 grows consisting of those long flowering NLD plants. So these beans that Gu~ offer really is nothing to me on the flowering time issues.

I can't wait till we can get this grow off contest up and running. I am so ready for it!

 

[Heisengrow]

I second his comment, it's all about when they start flowering outdoor. I had a strain I made take 12 weeks indoor for me, gave the clone to a buddy to run outdoor, he said it finished the quickest.

Because clones are already mature.your not having to force flower immature plants.some plants from the same.pack of seeds will just take longer to start than others.we learn this when we sex plants.also some plants will not naturally start to preflower for 2 months under 18/6 and some will after 3 weeks.once the nodes start to stagger that clone is mature for the rest of it's life and you can count the weeks the day you switch to 12