Greenpoint seeds!!

Bakersfield

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So why does a mature plant start to flower immediately and immature plants might take 3 weeks to throw the first preflower.i think starting the clock the minute you flip is counter productive.some plants in seed just take longer to begin to flower than others.i have 2 ghost OG right this minute that look about 6 weeks apart that were flipped the same day.one didnt' start to even throw hairs till 3 weeks after flip.the other started right away and looks like it has 2 weeks left.i would never count seeded plants flowering period after the flip.some just take longer.take a clone from the same slow ass plant and it will begin to flower alot sooner after flip because the plant has matured.so your saying even though it will take 2 weeks less now because it' a clone I should still expect the plant to go 13 weeks cause the seeded one took 13 weeks after I flipped it.lol come on man that don' make any sense.ALOT of growers start the weeks after the first preflowers appear.if a plant isn't ready to flower it might take an extra 2 weeks before it even begins to pre. flower.
I use to count from the days after I flipped but it was inconsistent from clones of already finished plants and ones from seeds.irs way easier for me.to schedule my grows now from the weeks after I see the first hairs after flip.
It's just how it's done. You turn your lights to a flowering schedule and start counting the days. It's how it's done.
'If it ain't broke, then don't fix it'. It's like putting on your pants one leg at a time. If you try to put both legs in at once you end up looking foolish.
 

Heisengrow

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It's just how it's done. You turn your lights to a flowering schedule and start counting the days. It's how it's done.
'If it ain't broke, then don't fix it'. It's like putting on your pants one leg at a time. If you try to put both legs in at once you end up looking foolish.
But we can both agree when sexing new seedlings some take and can take up to 3 weeks longer to even show sex and flower but the same plant cloned will begin to flower the day you flip.
 

Adrosmokin

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Because clones are already mature.your not having to force flower immature plants.some plants from the same.pack of seeds will just take longer to start than others.we learn this when we sex plants.also some plants will not naturally start to preflower for 2 months under 18/6 and some will after 3 weeks.once the nodes start to stagger that clone is mature for the rest of it's life and you can count the weeks the day you switch to 12
Mine took 12 weeks indoor. From clone. I can assure you, you don't have to teach me when a plant is mature.
 

Heisengrow

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This plant was flipped the same day from seed as the second pic.it will prob end up taking 13 weeks total since I flipped .but I can guarantee the clone will take about 3 weeks less on the next run.this is why I count seedlings time from the time I see hairs appear.it gives me a good indication of how long it will flower in the next run.my grow room is very meticulous.i keep records of everything.i write everything down and put post it' on all the walls buckets and I keep a book that is full of notes.
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Same strain all ran in same buckets flipped the same day.pictures taken 2 days apart.

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Bakersfield

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But we can both agree when sexing new seedlings some take and can take up to 3 weeks longer to even show sex and flower but the same plant cloned will begin to flower the day you flip.
I've noticed longer times to initiate flower when the plant is not sexually mature yet.
A plant @ 4 weeks since birth is mature and will turn and finish just as fast as a clone of the same plant. The only difference between the 2 will be that clones are more compact than the mother grown from seed.
I typically have preflowers in 7 to 10 days after flip from mature females. Males 5 to 10.
I've noticed a 2 to 3 week flower initiation time from seedling, because they aren't mature they cannot accurately depict Their flower time.
 

Heisengrow

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Agree... We have the best dramatic actors/actresses in the show biz here bro. What do you expect?
Whatever man.you begged gu for a job in one of your late night drunken rants.he blew u off as I expected.you havnt even finished one greenpoint seed but your an expert on all his gear.your the biggest gu nutswinger on this thread.poor guy has to log in and see everyone in there grandma put the @ Symbol in front his name.im sure it gets over whelming as shit to have 100 notifications when he logs on.
I think the guy has a legitimate gripe about the seed descriptions on the website.people give a shit how long a strain takes when there paying for electricity.not all of us have the luxury of hucking through backwoods across rivers and swamps to put up some half ass greenhouse so we can be on the next episode of the 5 o'clock news.
 

Heisengrow

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I've noticed longer times to initiate flower when the plant is not sexually mature yet.
A plant @ 4 weeks since birth is mature and will turn and finish just as fast as a clone of the same plant. The only difference between the 2 will be that clones are more compact than the mother grown from seed.
I typically have preflowers in 7 to 10 days after flip from mature females. Males 5 to 10.
I've noticed a 2 to 3 week flower initiation time from seedling, because they aren't mature they cannot accurately depict Their flower time.
You can see my picture above.that plant took 3 weeks to show anything after I flipped and the plants were already 3 weeks old the day I flipped.i have some do that sometimes.they just take forever to show
 

Bakersfield

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You can see my picture above.that plant took 3 weeks to show anything after I flipped and the plants were already 3 weeks old the day I flipped.i have some do that sometimes.they just take forever to show
I would bet that even at 3 weeks they still felt like they were babies and still wanted to do some growing up before they expressed themselves.
 

Cellardwellar

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The Greenpoint mania lately is reminding me of the TGA hype. except for the old dude dressed like a 12 year old talking over obnoxious loud music
 

GreenHighlander

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So why does a mature plant start to flower immediately and immature plants might take 3 weeks to throw the first preflower.i think starting the clock the minute you flip is counter productive.some plants in seed just take longer to begin to flower than others.i have 2 ghost OG right this minute that look about 6 weeks apart that were flipped the same day.one didnt' start to even throw hairs till 3 weeks after flip.the other started right away and looks like it has 2 weeks left.i would never count seeded plants flowering period after the flip.some just take longer.take a clone from the same slow ass plant and it will begin to flower alot sooner after flip because the plant has matured.so your saying even though it will take 2 weeks less now because it' a clone I should still expect the plant to go 13 weeks cause the seeded one took 13 weeks after I flipped it.lol come on man that don' make any sense.ALOT of growers start the weeks after the first preflowers appear.if a plant isn't ready to flower it might take an extra 2 weeks before it even begins to pre. flower.
I use to count from the days after I flipped but it was inconsistent from clones of already finished plants and ones from seeds.irs way easier for me.to schedule my grows now from the weeks after I see the first hairs after flip.

How do you determine the day they start flowering if it isn`t by when the light is flipped? Curious how someone determines the day flowering starts if not by when they went into the flowering light cycle?
Cheers
 
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Cellardwellar

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seriously , most growers just buy a couple of packs for the year.
who hell buys a pack then talks about it on this forum then next week they buy another pack then talk about what they bought. think of all the shipping and handling. i bought a pack of purple badlands. it better live of too the hype. if not I am going to post it on these forums.....
 
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