Greenpoint seeds!!

[psychadelibud]

Why was Gu banned from IC?

I am on IC as much as I am on RIU and I have not heard any reason but I almost guarantee it has something to do with $mike.

I had posted on top dawgs i95 thread, how I had smoked a joint of the Night Rider that a friend had grown out and that the "interest in the i95" strain is what landed me there because I thought it was fire and was even praising him for creating i95 in my OP.

Then out of no where, even with such a positive compliment and positive interest, I got jumped on left and right by every top dawg ass kisser there, obviously. They all said the mentioning of Gu~s name and GPS was not allowed in the thread.

I will not say what was said, here, as I don't want to contribute to anymore drama on this thread ever again, but it obviously had something to with the i95 being used in Night Rider.

Its easy to get banned there though, so I don't know... They will ban you if you fart the wrong way. Don't get me wrong, I have met many of good friends on IC over the years and there are tons of awesome information, documented grows and especially good outdoor growing info, but they have there favorites there and it doesn't take much of even a mistake to get thrown off.

Hell, I mentioned Sannie on IC once, just saying I was growing his killing fields and got an email from administrator that if I ever mentioned his name again I would be banned for good. Gotta watch yourself on IC.

But as far as Gu~ goes, I would just PM him as it could be something personal that he does not want put on the GPS thread.

 

[Heisengrow]

I am on IC as much as I am on RIU and I have not heard any reason but I almost guarantee it has something to do with $mike.

I had posted on top dawgs i95 thread, how I had smoked a joint of the Night Rider that a friend had grown out and that the "interest in the i95" strain is what landed me there because I thought it was fire and was even praising him for creating i95 in my OP.

Then out of no where, even with such a positive compliment and positive interest, I got jumped on left and right by every top dawg ass kisser there, obviously. They all said the mentioning of Gu~s name and GPS was not allowed in the thread.

I will not say what was said, here, as I don't want to contribute to anymore drama on this thread ever again, but it obviously had something to with the i95 being used in Night Rider.

Its easy to get banned there though, so I don't know... They will ban you if you fart the wrong way. Don't get me wrong, I have met many of good friends on IC over the years and there are tons of awesome information, documented grows and especially good outdoor growing info, but they have there favorites there and it doesn't take much of even a mistake to get thrown off.

Hell, I mentioned Sannie on IC once, just saying I was growing his killing fields and got an email from administrator that if I ever mentioned his name again I would be banned for good. Gotta watch yourself on IC.

But as far as Gu~ goes, I would just PM him as it could be something personal that he does not want put on the GPS thread.

Its already on this thread about 300 pages back.Look for it.I told monkey mike to eat a dick and still didnt get banned.

 

[psychadelibud]

Well, my part has been done... Deleted all of the posts I could on my end of the argument with that dude.

Now on with the show... Remember those seeds I soaked a few days ago? And then remember the ones I soaked day before yesterday? Well here they are... some new pics as of 2 hours ago.

Here are the first ones that I soaked 5 days ago... They are making a quick start.



Here are the ones I soaked 2 days ago... Can't really see them yet, but they are all raising their little heads up out of the promix and by tomorrow they will be completely erected.

 

[psychadelibud]

Do they not like Sannie or something?

Obviously not, but I have no idea why. Sannie is a good guy and great breeder offering great genetics the same as Gu~, also offering great prices on some fire genetics as well.

Sannie is a little slow on things currently. He had suffered some MAJOR issues back during this past summer, but he told me he hopes to have a full new re-stock and new drops towards the beginning to mid March.

I can't wait to grab some new packs of Sugar Punch, as he has been out of stock forever now... I talk to Sannie from time to time and next time I speak with him, just out of my own curiosity, I am going to ask him why IC mag has issues with him.

I lost my Sugar Punch cut unfortunately back last winter and it has put a damper on things. It was a very sought out strain that people still nag me about till this day...

I bet some pollen chucking with that Sugar Punch and some of Gu~s gear would make some AMAZING off-spring... I will find out come fall of this years season .

 

[chiqifella]

How do you determine the day they start flowering if it isn`t by when the light is flipped? Curious how someone determines the day flowering starts if not by when they went into the flowering light cycle?
Cheers

its like
" oh, look theres a marijuana plant growing over there"
"Is it flowering yet?"
"There's no flowers on it so no"
"but wait, I counted the sun hours and it should be flowering"
"sun hours? whatever man, see for yourself, its not in flower yet, until it has a flower,
so when it has a flower on it we'll know she's in flower, but until then she is not in flower regardless of amount of light provided at a given time"

auto's will flower under 24 hour light. are they in flower the day the seed germinates or maybe the day you see an actual flower.
I had hair before I was in puberty too, soooooo...you got that to consider as well

 

[chiqifella]

Obviously, it's all subjective. But most dates are currently SHORTER than they used to be. Which means all my planning gets thrown out the window and I currently have to decide whether to let some go too long or not give them a proper flush. Which IS a big deal.

ttly agree. at minimum packs and ads should match, even if both are inaccurate. Even inaccurate can be worked as long as its consistent here.
I notice flower packs say 60 day flowering, so we got people harvesting on day 60 when their flowers are only 30/40 days old.
When I inquired my favorite breeders yrs ago I learned what the deal is. low numbers sell seeds of course, but smarties know better.
Breeder counts from day a flower appears, not the day he reduced light, which account for the missing 20 days or so of maturity found often in commercial weed.
not to mention breeder rooms vs grower rooms. seems breeders begin with all the resources plants need, while growers often begin with the bare minimum resources for some reason.

I dont hear anyone complaining about flowering times not being acceptable with gu gear so far, only that pack dates are not matching ads.

I can say(again) that my finish times were always within the frame gu printed on the packs I received.


packs and ads need to match !

 

[Mass Medicinals]

We haven't heard from GU in about a week. Definitely between the site not having auctions and people detailing shipping delays.

GPS seems to be swamped.

Hope he gets a chance to respond to emails in the next week.

~MM

 

[Spondylo Grow]

We haven't heard from GU in about a week. Definitely between the site not having auctions and people detailing shipping delays.

GPS seems to be swamped.

Hope he gets a chance to respond to emails in the next week.

~MM

Gu posted a few days ago that he has been out of office since last week and would return this coming Tuesday.

 

[GreenHighlander]

ttly agree. at minimum packs and ads should match, even if both are inaccurate. Even inaccurate can be worked as long as its consistent here.
I notice flower packs say 60 day flowering, so we got people harvesting on day 60 when their flowers are only 30/40 days old.
When I inquired my favorite breeders yrs ago I learned what the deal is. low numbers sell seeds of course, but smarties know better.
Breeder counts from day a flower appears, not the day he reduced light, which account for the missing 20 days or so of maturity found often in commercial weed.
not to mention breeder rooms vs grower rooms. seems breeders begin with all the resources plants need, while growers often begin with the bare minimum resources for some reason.

I dont hear anyone complaining about flowering times not being acceptable with gu gear so far, only that pack dates are not matching ads.

I can say(again) that my finish times were always within the frame gu printed on the packs I received.


packs and ads need to match !

I agree 100% that the website should match the packs labeling.
But this whole flowering starts when the flowers appear is complete bullshit.It is almost as bad as stating " I can tell if a plant is going to be any good in veg, or within two weeks of flowering."
Other then having a strain that the whiteheads magically appear on one specific day, (which I have never seen or heard of) how the hell is that a gauge of when flowering starts? There is far too much variability to that theory. Complete personal opinion.
Which is why the universal time when flowering starts is when the plant enters the flowering light cycle.In fact the only place you will even see the question , "when does floweing start?" is in the goddamn newbie section on any given cannabis forum.
As for autos I have no idea I have never run them and never will.
Also nobody with half a brain harvests based on the days stated by the breeder. They DO purchase seeds based on the days stated by the breeder.They at best use those days as a guide for when to start looking at the trichs. Even based on personal and strain preference the trichs can make a week or more difference. Not to mention grow method, grow conditions, etc.
Cheers

 

[chiqifella]

I agree 100% that the website should match the packs labeling.
But this whole flowering starts when the flowers appear is complete bullshit.It is almost as bad as stating " I can tell if a plant is going to be any good in veg, or within two weeks of flowering."
Other then having a strain that the whiteheads magically appear on one specific day, (which I have never seen or heard of) how the hell is that a gauge of when flowering starts? There is far to much variability to that theory. Complete personal opinion.
Which is why the universal time when flowering starts is when the plant enters the flowering light cycle.In fact the only place you will even see the question , "when does floweingr start?" is in the goddamn newbie section on any given cannabis forum.
As for autos I have no idea I have never run them and never will.
Also nobody with half a brain harvests based on the days stated by the breeder. They DO purchase seeds based on the days stated by the breeder.They at best use those days as a guide for when to start looking at the trichs. Even based on personal and strain preference the trichs can make a week or more difference. Not to mention grow method, grow conditions, etc.
Cheers

its a great debate for sure. thanks for playing nicely.

*I've noticed most everyone suggests and practices at least another two weeks past the suggested finish dates given by even reputable breeder.(agree?)

*When I spoke to Rare Dankness, and TGA I learned the reason for this. Its only there opinion also I agree, I just happen to share it now because the numbers match up most often for me, and it makes so much sense(to me.... grain of salt)

*when a plant reaches sexual maturity it always shows sex even in veg for me, especially my cycled strain clones, left alone in veg calyx will form, pistils too under 24 our light even. While not in the flowering room she is flowering by any standards. Flowering hormones are present at higher rates than if no sexual signs exist. Plants off to the side, outside of optimal light in my veg room will begin to flower also, sooner than anyone else in there(with 24 hour light, albeit weak light)

*In my greenhouse mj growing in more than 12 hours of light or so will be in flower though will never finish in my state, not to my liking anyways(without light dep, veg indoors etc). So even in 16 hours of light I see sex outdoors, my plants have begun flowering.
plants are in flower regardless of amount of light given. finishing, flourishing, satisfying....those are different subjects. 12/12 makes my best herbs. "In flower" can be determined by sight or hormones, not by how much light is shining on them at any given moment.--imo

at least you understand where I'm coming from now right?

 

[coppershot]

But this whole flowering starts when the flowers appear is complete bullshit. There is far to much variability to that theory. Complete personal opinion.

Kinda like flushing, or that you can determine the sex of seeds based on their appearance, or that sex is determined by environmental conditions, dry harvest vs wet harvest, dumping hot water, pull the plant roots and all rather than cutting it, and a plethora of other things.

I don't subscribe to the whole 'universally accepted' idea, rather I just do my thing that works for me and harvest based on what the plant is telling me when it's ready to come down.

 

[hillbill]

The only solid reference point possible is at flip. We are different in our abilities to even observe or notice pistils. I have had plants showing pistils in 18/6 and 20/4. I just had 3 Copper Chem show nothing for 2 weeks. A Sleeskunk from DNA had pistils when moved to flower tent at the same time.

We all know exactly when the move or flip happens.

 

[chiqifella]

The only solid reference point possible is at flip. We are different in our abilities to even observe or notice pistils. I have had plants showing pistils in 18/6 and 20/4. I just had 3 Copper Chem show nothing for 2 weeks. A Sleeskunk from DNA had pistils when moved to flower tent at the same time.

We all know exactly when the move or flip happens.

I think the majority of posters believe now that most often the finish date on a pack of seeds is about 2 weeks off? is this a coincidence?
always 2 weeks into a light change, no flowering evident maybe, but by 2 weeks in that room.......she is now visually in a state of flowering ..... when is an automatic plant in a state of flowering?

peace

 

[hillbill]

Greenpoint has no autos.

 

[Dr. Who]

Would you like to ask some professionals? I know a few on RIU.
Hey @Dr. Who -- would it bother you if a run took 3 weeks longer than the breeder said it would?

NO, I expect it!

You compared me to someone who gives no shit, or someone who is growing professionally, and I asked you about that. pro or no pro, harvest time is subjective. ask away
but he likes to run his longer anyways, than many here. so again, its subjective. I've seen him talk about those numbers an pooh them anyways. we all know you got to get to know your girls.
sure thing though, I know some get pissed when their rooms just wont finish properly, or the pack date seems wrong, but I assure you the plant is finished on the first date you saw. grow another 20 days and others will say its even more finished right? =subjective?
misprint? give the gu a chance eh..false advertising is a bad shade here imo

Dude! You forget that they (seed breeder) has different environmental conditions then you. That won't explain all 3 weeks of difference but, does come into play. More then you think.
Secondly, your definition of "finished" is most likely different then the breeder.

It is COMMON that plants run 2 weeks longer then breeder reports line out. Many (breeders) tend to hydro and if you use soil....That can be a big part of the difference!

The breeder is only giving his run time for HIS conditions, his feed, and his method of grow..... 3 weeks of difference is your result from your conditions, feed and method.

They did NOT lie or list false run times. You want something, basically impossible to give!

An EXACT bloom time for your growing details........lighten up Francis!

 

[Humanrob]

Last spring I bought seeds from OGS, I was trusting their choices in terms of what they stock and didn't really pay attention to the specific breeders. Turned out in the group I ordered I got some Greenpoint Dream Catcher. Solid plants, I've grown them indoors and outdoors (the indoors is still curing, but looks good). I just ordered The Deputy directly from GPS, I'm guessing they are on sale because they are older stock? I won't actually germinate them until next fall, so hopefully they aren't too old. Great sale price though, least I've ever paid for seeds.

From the incredibly broad descriptions of pheno variations of several of the strains listed on Greenpoint's website, it appears they are selling F1s? Is that normal for them? At least they are honest about it.

(sorry if any of this has been discussed, I'm new to this thread and have not read all 462 pages...)

 

[evergreengardener]

NO, I expect it!



Dude! You forget that they (seed breeder) has different environmental conditions then you. That won't explain all 3 weeks of difference but, does come into play. More then you think.
Secondly, your definition of "finished" is most likely different then the breeder.

It is COMMON that plants run 2 weeks longer then breeder reports line out. Many (breeders) tend to hydro and if you use soil....That can be a big part of the difference!

The breeder is only giving his run time for HIS conditions, his feed, and his method of grow..... 3 weeks of difference is your result from your conditions, feed and method.

They did NOT lie or list false run times. You want something, basically impossible to give!

An EXACT bloom time for your growing details........lighten up Francis!

The real issue was online the flowering time on a pack of beans said 50 to 60 days but when that said seed pack arrived it was marked as a 70 to 80 day strain. that was the original complaint and then people took things way out of context and now there is three pages or more of flowering time debates for no reason

 

[Dr. Who]

I think the majority of posters believe now that most often the finish date on a pack of seeds is about 2 weeks off? is this a coincidence?
always 2 weeks into a light change, no flowering evident maybe, but by 2 weeks in that room.......she is now visually in a state of flowering ..... when is an automatic plant in a state of flowering?

peace

In reality, from day 1. It's internal clock is always ticking....You can not stop it, or delay it. It's genetic.

Every clone you run. Is actually as old as the mother plant, counting from the day it's seed split open. Every time you clone from a clone the plant gets older.
So, with that in mind. I have a Blue Berry plant that's over 31 years old.

Wrap your head around that for a minute.

 

[Dr. Who]

The real issue was online the flowering time on a pack of beans said 50 to 60 days but when that said seed pack arrived it was marked as a 70 to 80 day strain. that was the original complaint and then people took things way out of context and now there is three pages or more of flowering time debates for no reason

Thanks Egreen!

Then I have to answer that the change could have been a simple misprint on the web site! Garbage in, garbage out. The breeder, most likely doesn't even do the web page himself.

Bottom line for me would be to have ignored that whole thing.
The person complaining, should have contacted the breeder and told him about the web page error. It's THAT fucking simple! (aimed at the simple minds complaining about something best ignored)...

BOOM DONE!

 

[Amos Otis]

So in other words, he pulled me into his vibe and it made me look bad.

.

You poor little wuss......you got 'pulled in'......wasn't even your fault, was it? Poor thing !

Everyone knows I never indulge in arguments but there have been so many people on here crying lately and especially heisengrow, everyone is sick of his pathetic ass and why he is not banned I do not know.

/QUOTE]

Why not be a man, and start an 'in secret' campaign to get him banned? Mail people behind his back to go to the mods? No......not even a wuss like you would be that sleazy, am I right?

Given the choice of you or Heisengrow remaining on this thread, I go with the man that owns his behavior, sub par as it is at times, rather than the poor soul who was 'made to look bad'. Any questions?

I agree 100% that the website should match the packs labeling.

Yeah, that would seem to be a really good idea. Of course, since you read along, you know how many think it's simply a mistake they don't even know about. I guess no one at GPS has looked at the web site descriptions since they were posted oh so many months ago. I know if it was my business, I sure wouldn't. [ ha ha ha etc]