ShLUbY

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Congrats on the cuts and I'm still holding on to hope I'll get some good blueberry seeds or a clone one day. I have gotten to try blueberry once and I really liked it.
i had a badass blueberry cut from dutch passion years ago. it was from a tight nit circle of growers and this thing was amazing. the one i'm getting soon is quite different from the one i used to grow, but still a fire cut. people still talk about the blueberry i used to have lol
 

ShLUbY

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ok here we go, day 7 for the 2 Con Cheese from before. today they were topdressed with bloom mix and insect frass mixed with the homemade EWC. watered them in, and rotated them. They're looking a little droopy from the watering. I also cleaned out the inside of them a bit, but the canopy is still so thick. i'm gonna give them another week before i attempt to clear any more.

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Here are some examples from the little psuedo sips i made. there is about 1-1.5" of pumice at the bottom of the containers, and they just sit in the tray and sip up the water I put in there! They've been working really friggin well. The little ones in the first example are fresh from the cloner about 2ish weeks ago. they have had zero issues whatsoever.

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Transplanted this DQ last weekend, gonna give her another two weeks or so and flip her.

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And lastly, here are the two ladies that are about to come down next weekend. Confidential Cheese at around 7 weeks. Amazing how quick this plant finishes. I swear you could harvest it at 49 days if you wanted to. I'm letting it go 56 though. You can see some ambers starting to show up on the leaves if you zoom in.

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and a little full canopy wrap up. 20 gal no tills. first time i've ever grown them this big. the two at the top of this post will also finish around this size.

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And good news.... I got the White Widow cuts today! gonna get them in the cloner tomorrow and hoping that all 4 will make it through (usually i'm 100% with cloning but hey, ya never know lol). I'm super excited for this strain. I was at my buddies place today checking out some plants that were almost finished... man do they look and smell wonderful! Super frosty, nice dense and large buds, and has a wonderful aroma that I can't quite put my finger on... citrusy... but there's an undertone in there I just can't pinpoint.

Anyway, weekend update is complete! Hope everyone has a nice rest of their weekend. Thanks for stopping by!

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ShLUbY

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transplanted a Gorilla Glue today..... gotta love when you see it look like this :) . I had put a little pumice at the bottom of this pot (but not as much as the psuedoSIPs i have the concheese and brainwreck clones in). But i figured it had enough to put in the tray with the others.... seems to have worked great! I haven't watered this plant from the surface in like 2 weeks....

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ShLUbY

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Weekly update! Things are looking great!

Here are the PsuedoSIPs that I've been experimenting with and they are performing beyond expectation!

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very pleased with them, and there are root hairs all over the place! another nice thing about doing this method is that when transplanting, removing the pumice at the bottom frees the roots so that when they are placed in a new container, they are unbound and free to move through the soil immediately. Pretty sweet!

Here are the two Confidential Cheese in flower at day 14 and looking so good. These things are YUGE. I didn't have time this weekend to do any defoliating in the interior, so i'll have to do that next weekend. Also, neglected to get a lights out pic... so this one is kinda shitty lol

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and here is a nice little nug shot of the cheese I just took down... :weed::weed::weed:

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grape/berry deliciousness with that slight cheesey undertone... Can't wait til its ready to try!

Until next time, and thanks for stoppin' by! :peace::peace::peace::peace::peace::peace:
 

CaptainSnap

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:clap::clap: I've been watching your thread for awhile man and all I can say is nice stellar looking plants shlubby!! I dig what you do and appreciate the great advice when I asked about sips containers!

Also thanks for showing proof on your suedo sips for the littles!! I'll be using this technique in the near future. Do you keep water in the tray constantly for those littles?

Keep up the good work bro:bigjoint:
 

ShLUbY

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:clap::clap: I've been watching your thread for awhile man and all I can say is nice stellar looking plants shlubby!! I dig what you do and appreciate the great advice when I asked about sips containers!

Also thanks for showing proof on your suedo sips for the littles!! I'll be using this technique in the near future. Do you keep water in the tray constantly for those littles?

Keep up the good work bro:bigjoint:
Hey, thanks man. Always appreciate people coming by and dropping a line; glad you have been enjoying yourself!

So with the sip style trays, I fill them 1/3 or 1/2 the height of the pumice in the bottom of the container, and I let them soak it up entirely. I've been letting the tray go dry for a day in between to let things air out a bit, and by dry, i mean i can lift the pot and no water runs off of the pumice. Then the following day I will repeat!

every 4 waterings or so i've been giving the tray a spritz with bleach, wipe it out and rinse it well just to keep any algae or slime from showing up since they are exposed to light. they never really need it, but its just a precaution.

but yeah, been really happy with the results and i'm convinced, gonna keep doing it. I'm even thinking about trying out a 5 gal plastic in flower to see how it works. I have some that are wider and a little less tall, which is ideal so gravity isn't an issue (not that i even think it would be at this small of scale). I bet it would work pretty well!
 

SSGrower

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@ShLUbY @calliandra @DonTesla
Hope all is well for ya'll, movin to the country huh shlub? Gonna eat alot of peaches? My preference to live away from people. Wish I had house in the country, you could start doin humanure, chickens, pigs......you know me love manure.

Was thinking about biochar and how the standard practice is to precharge it. When I had coco in my mix I believe itmwould have been good to precharge with a compost tea or even a salt based fert (because of the water holding properties of coco, holds too much imo, i think actually adding a salt would have reduced the the tendancy to hold onto the other minerals in the soil? That actually a secondary question as I no longer add it to my mix, but I do use perilite.

What about precharging perilite with microbes specifically, not necessarily "food". My logic -
1. Perilite has air space, biochar has airspace
2. MYKEs packages their microbes with what appears to be about 90% vol perilite, unless this is just marketing to make you think youre getting more for the money cause its in a biger package?, they must have technical reason helps in application, preserves microbes, or as I think givesnthem a home to help establish a local colony.

I have stupid idea too, I wonder if a coco like product could be made from pineneedles?

Also doing a germination trial with rye grass through the eclipse just for fun, I do expect to see some variations in results tho.
 

CaptainSnap

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Thanks again shluby for the rock solid advice man! I'll be trying something other than pumice as its expensive around the Michigan area!
 

ShLUbY

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@ShLUbY @calliandra @DonTesla
Hope all is well for ya'll, movin to the country huh shlub? Gonna eat alot of peaches? My preference to live away from people. Wish I had house in the country, you could start doin humanure, chickens, pigs......you know me love manure.

Was thinking about biochar and how the standard practice is to precharge it. When I had coco in my mix I believe itmwould have been good to precharge with a compost tea or even a salt based fert (because of the water holding properties of coco, holds too much imo, i think actually adding a salt would have reduced the the tendancy to hold onto the other minerals in the soil? That actually a secondary question as I no longer add it to my mix, but I do use perilite.

What about precharging perilite with microbes specifically, not necessarily "food". My logic -
1. Perilite has air space, biochar has airspace
2. MYKEs packages their microbes with what appears to be about 90% vol perilite, unless this is just marketing to make you think youre getting more for the money cause its in a biger package?, they must have technical reason helps in application, preserves microbes, or as I think givesnthem a home to help establish a local colony.

I have stupid idea too, I wonder if a coco like product could be made from pineneedles?

Also doing a germination trial with rye grass through the eclipse just for fun, I do expect to see some variations in results tho.
if you're referring to precharging the coco, then yes, you are on the right track. Coco is notorious for having K+ and Na+ bound to its surface. This is why one should always buy a buffered coco coir, or buffer it themselves with Ca++ and Mg++ and other cations to reduce the amount of potassium and sodium on the coco itself. Its still going to hold onto cations regardless because of its CEC properties, but you can influence the diversity of cations in holds onto by buffering it with a broader spectrum of cations. but remember, the stronger the charge, the more its going to hold onto it. so things like Ca and Mg will be adsorbed more strongly than ions of a single positive charge.

i'm not sure about being able to precharge perlite with microbes... i mean i guess it's possible, they'd at least be on the surface of the perlite. perlite is chemically inert, and does not have a CEC (no surface charge) so it doesn't hold nutrients like a pumice, biochar, or scoria would.

i have no clue why they'd put perlite in with the beneficials. i'm sure if you emailed them, they could tell you their reasoning.

pine needles would not readily absorb water like coco would, so being as they have two completely different physical properties in that respect, i would say it would just act as a drainage material more so than a water absorbing material (you would get some surface adhesion, but not absorption like you do with coco)

hope that helps.

Thanks again shluby for the rock solid advice man! I'll be trying something other than pumice as its expensive around the Michigan area!
No problem man. Can you not find the pumice made by the company Growstone? it's a pretty affordable product IMO... but we all have different tolerance when it comes to spending money lol.
 

SSGrower

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if you're referring to precharging the coco, then yes, you are on the right track. Coco is notorious for having K+ and Na+ bound to its surface. This is why one should always buy a buffered coco coir, or buffer it themselves with Ca++ and Mg++ and other cations to reduce the amount of potassium and sodium on the coco itself. Its still going to hold onto cations regardless because of its CEC properties, but you can influence the diversity of cations in holds onto by buffering it with a broader spectrum of cations. but remember, the stronger the charge, the more its going to hold onto it. so things like Ca and Mg will be adsorbed more strongly than ions of a single positive charge.

i'm not sure about being able to precharge perlite with microbes... i mean i guess it's possible, they'd at least be on the surface of the perlite. perlite is chemically inert, and does not have a CEC (no surface charge) so it doesn't hold nutrients like a pumice, biochar, or scoria would.

i have no clue why they'd put perlite in with the beneficials. i'm sure if you emailed them, they could tell you their reasoning.

pine needles would not readily absorb water like coco would, so being as they have two completely different physical properties in that respect, i would say it would just act as a drainage material more so than a water absorbing material (you would get some surface adhesion, but not absorption like you do with coco)

hope that helps.



No problem man. Can you not find the pumice made by the company Growstone? it's a pretty affordable product IMO... but we all have different tolerance when it comes to spending money lol.
I'm not so sure about perilite having no surface charge
Get a plastic bucket or pvc drain pipe, grab a handful of dry perilite drop it gradually into a pile. Now garab another handful of perilite, drop it into the bucket or down the pvc pipe....watch what happens.

Also, counting on fact pine needels dont absorb as much water as coco, perhaps Imshouldnhave just said a pine needle planting media. Its not really my style but would like to find a use for them as they dont compost well either and I dont want to landfill them.
 

Pa-Nature

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transplanted a Gorilla Glue today..... gotta love when you see it look like this :) . I had put a little pumice at the bottom of this pot (but not as much as the psuedoSIPs i have the concheese and brainwreck clones in). But i figured it had enough to put in the tray with the others.... seems to have worked great! I haven't watered this plant from the surface in like 2 weeks....

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nice worm in there too (:
 

ShLUbY

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I'm not so sure about perilite having no surface charge
Get a plastic bucket or pvc drain pipe, grab a handful of dry perilite drop it gradually into a pile. Now garab another handful of perilite, drop it into the bucket or down the pvc pipe....watch what happens.

Also, counting on fact pine needels dont absorb as much water as coco, perhaps Imshouldnhave just said a pine needle planting media. Its not really my style but would like to find a use for them as they dont compost well either and I dont want to landfill them.
i don't have any perlite so i'm not going to go and buy some to see what happens lol. so what happens when you do it? perlite definitely can acquire some static electricity charge to it when it is dry, i've experienced that before, but that doesn't necessarily mean that it has a chemical property of CEC functionality. All sources i've read say that perlite has a chemically neutral surface charge, which is why i choose to use pumice over perlite.

for the pine needles... they may be good drainage material for a short period of time (kinda like rice hulls which seem to start off good but saturate within the first grow). using them as a growing media will definitely create an airy mix, which will require a lot of extra watering! I would just make a pile of them outside if you have room, keep them moist and keep a tarp over them and see if indigenous microbes/worms/insects can break them down into humus over time rather than sending them to a landfill. I mean they have to be compostable, otherwise pine forests would just be a giant pile of pine leaf litter!
 

ShLUbY

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I raise my own worms and harvest the casting so my buddies I spot easy :clap:
haha same. nothing beats homemade EWC! the only EWC i was able to buy that was same quality, before i had a worm farm, were from WormPower in New York. 60lb. was like 120$ to the door though, but well worth it compared to the store bought stuff.

how do you manage your worm farm? Right now i'm just using plastic totes but i want to build me one of those fancy worm towers to make harvesting easier. @DonBrennon has a nice little design on his thread that i'm thinking about copying.
 

Pa-Nature

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haha same. nothing beats homemade EWC! the only EWC i was able to buy that was same quality, before i had a worm farm, were from WormPower in New York. 60lb. was like 120$ to the door though, but well worth it compared to the store bought stuff.

how do you manage your worm farm? Right now i'm just using plastic totes but i want to build me one of those fancy worm towers to make harvesting easier. @DonBrennon has a nice little design on his thread that i'm thinking about copying.
Same for now till I get me a worm HOTEL .
Man when I collect the urine and add it to the mix my plants call out my NAME ... lol
 

SSGrower

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i don't have any perlite so i'm not going to go and buy some to see what happens lol. so what happens when you do it? perlite definitely can acquire some static electricity charge to it when it is dry, i've experienced that before, but that doesn't necessarily mean that it has a chemical property of CEC functionality. All sources i've read say that perlite has a chemically neutral surface charge, which is why i choose to use pumice over perlite.

for the pine needles... they may be good drainage material for a short period of time (kinda like rice hulls which seem to start off good but saturate within the first grow). using them as a growing media will definitely create an airy mix, which will require a lot of extra watering! I would just make a pile of them outside if you have room, keep them moist and keep a tarp over them and see if indigenous microbes/worms/insects can break them down into humus over time rather than sending them to a landfill. I mean they have to be compostable, otherwise pine forests would just be a giant pile of pine leaf litter!
It will scatter or deflect, if ions are established in or on the perilite I think you would be able to enhance cec, and don't roll your eyes paramagnetisim (which has at least a passing relationship with brix).

From my experience the last 4 years composting needles, it takes about 4 years and you have a virtually nutrionally devoid compost in the end. Ill try the tarp idea though, may be it'll attract some worms.
 

ShLUbY

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It will scatter or deflect, if ions are established in or on the perilite I think you would be able to enhance cec, and don't roll your eyes paramagnetisim (which has at least a passing relationship with brix).

From my experience the last 4 years composting needles, it takes about 4 years and you have a virtually nutrionally devoid compost in the end. Ill try the tarp idea though, may be it'll attract some worms.
What worm you use ?
Mind if I post couple shots ?
post away man! i'm using red wigglers (Eisenia fetida)
 
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