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see4

see4

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DG1959 said:
To the Trump haters....So any Americans that get a great job offer because of our president should turn it down.... if you get more $$ on your paycheck because of OUR presidents tax cuts, refuse it. OH !!! you all want that though.
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You are not a bright person. And you clearly are not able to think for yourself. Nor do I think you care.

The tax plan has not taken effect. Literally ALL the companies that have come out saying they are paying bonuses and higher wages because of the tax cut are making a political stunt. Many of them planned well before a tax plan was even conceived that they would raise wages, namely because the economy has been doing so well. You can thank the last president and his administrations policies for that one.

And so far, the ONLY policy that has had any effect on corporate American during this presidency is this tax cut. Which, as stated, hasn't taken effect. The implications of which will not be reflected until much later this year and carrying forward.
 
see4

see4

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Terps said:
FOXNEWS DOMINATES STATE OF UNION
JAN 30 2018
(Where CNN used to be)
FOXNEWS 11,500,000
NBC 7,100,000
CBS 7,000,000
ABC 5,400,000
FOX 3,600,000
CNN 3,100,000
MSNBC 2,700,000

You keep believing that fake polling coming out of Liberal cities.... In fact regular fox had more watchers than CNN
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lol. So your counter argument to facts are to point out that most people are being conned by the bullshit spread by Fox News?

Is that honestly what you're basing your premise on?

You're not even smarter than a 5th grader. Foxworthy would be disappointed.
 
DG1959

DG1959

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see4 said:
You are not a bright person. And you clearly are not able to think for yourself. Nor do I think you care.

The tax plan has not taken effect. Literally ALL the companies that have come out saying they are paying bonuses and higher wages because of the tax cut are making a political stunt. Many of them planned well before a tax plan was even conceived that they would raise wages, namely because the economy has been doing so well. You can thank the last president and his administrations policies for that one.

And so far, the ONLY policy that has had any effect on corporate American during this presidency is this tax cut. Which, as stated, hasn't taken effect. The implications of which will not be reflected until much later this year and carrying forward.
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see4, my mom said never argue with a fool because he will beat you with experience, well played sir, well played.
Trump is far better than what we could of had.... are you all worried that gov. hand outs will soon be gone?
 
Terps

Terps

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DG1959 said:
see4, my mom said never argue with a fool because he will beat you with experience, well played sir, well played.
Trump is far better than what we could of had.... are you all worried that gov. hand outs will soon be gone?
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The GOP is no better...... They just actually have someone in office that can drive the media narrative.
 
ColoradoHighGrower

ColoradoHighGrower

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see4 said:
You've got this odd passive-aggressive manic thing going on.

I'm guessing you smoke to help with bipolar.
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Why? Because i think it's moronic to say that 320 million people are dumb, simply because our president sucks? Was that even passive, or do i need to capitalize all the letters next time? You do realize how the election process works, right, mr @see4?
 
ColoradoHighGrower

ColoradoHighGrower

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@UncleBuck sure, foodstamps are a drop in the bucket of all fed spending, but so is all of social welfare and entitlements spending in the grand scheme. What's your point?

Your data is 13 years old, not that a whole lot has changed during that time.... here's a good article that demonstrates why these stats are easily manipulated to a given argument's advantage:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/08/us/california-today-federal-taxes.html

And here's ones that discusses the bipartisanship of entitlement recipients:
http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2012/12/18/a-bipartisan-nation-of-beneficiaries/

Also, I'd believe the Pew Trust's stat analysis and sources more than CNN and some guy named jesse erlbaum... this figure proves erlbaum is full of it overall, cherry-picking to bend the numbers... there are cointless ways to normalize, omit and include as seen fit by the argument being posed:

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And:
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Regardless, I'd say my correlation of dems versus foodstamps is a pretty telling comparison, especially since my post is broken down by county, and not lumping entire states together.... So yeah, nice try? Keep it up SoCal! How's it going Massachusetts? Miami? Chicago? Detroit? Seattle!? Portlandia? NYC?? San Francisco!!?? Gasp!
 
ColoradoHighGrower

ColoradoHighGrower

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I'm playing devil's advocate here btw. Obviously not every person that recieves aid, even food stams, is a useless pos. There are underlying societal issues that have created the divide, and we can ALL (dems, indies, reps alike) thank the uppermost ~0.1% and our beautiful clean corporations and career puppet politicians [on both sides of that fucking aisle] for the current state of the unium....
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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ColoradoHighGrower said:
@UncleBuck sure, foodstamps are a drop in the bucket of all fed spending, but so is all of social welfare and entitlements spending in the grand scheme. What's your point?

Your data is 13 years old, not that a whole lot has changed during that time.... here's a good article that demonstrates why these stats are easily manipulated to a given argument's advantage:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/08/us/california-today-federal-taxes.html

And here's ones that discusses the bipartisanship of entitlement recipients:
http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2012/12/18/a-bipartisan-nation-of-beneficiaries/

Also, I'd believe the Pew Trust's stat analysis and sources more than CNN and some guy named jesse erlbaum... this figure proves erlbaum is full of it overall, cherry-picking to bend the numbers... there are cointless ways to normalize, omit and include as seen fit by the argument being posed:

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Regardless, I'd say my correlation of dems versus foodstamps is a pretty telling comparison, especially since my post is broken down by county, and not lumping entire states together.... So yeah, nice try? Keep it up SoCal! How's it going Massachusetts? Miami? Chicago? Detroit? Seattle!? Portlandia? NYC?? San Francisco!!?? Gasp!
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your graph shows red states rely the most on federal aid provided by blue states. not sure if you realized that.
 
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