The "D" day pool, best guess as to when Trump is out

DIY-HP-LED

DIY-HP-LED

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greg nr said:
Convictions, even felonies, are not a dq for holding national office. The senate specifically is the sole judge of who they will seat. Since it's a federal constitutional election, states can't put any criteria on who runs. Sure, they can set process requirments to be on the ballot, but they can't say felons can't run.
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I bow to your expertise, can't blame a guy for hoping though...
 
greg nr

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Sour Wreck said:
FBI's Wray put out a statement today, saying the release would be damaging to the country. republitards don't care. they are on the side of russians.
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Actually, they used the term "grave", which is a special term in intelligence circles. It represents the highestr level of damage to the interests of the united states.

It is not a term that is used lightly. It is highly reserved for the-worst-impact imageinable.

And that is where they are.

An example. Someone leaks that person a was heard saying x with person b. Doesn't seem bad. Until you realize that the only possible way the guvies could know that is that they can break skype encryption. Because your enemies are person b and they know what they used to protect thir comms on their end. woops. Now you get zero intelligence using that mechanism. Oh, and suddenly 5 people administering the russian end of that network suddenly die in suspicious accidents.

get it? that's a grave impact.
 
DIY-HP-LED

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greg nr said:
Actually, they used the term "grave", which is a special term in intelligence circles. It represents the highestr level of damage to the interests of the united states.

It is not a term that is used lightly. It is highly reserved for the-worst-impact imageinable.

And that is where they are.
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Going after the FBI and justice department over the russian investigation will destroy the GOP, it can't look anything but very bad. These people are going mad for a reason and there's method to their to their madness, but I think they are so far gone, that nothing is gonna make a difference this fall.

Maybe Rosenstein will figure he has nothing to lose and order indictments for a bunch of them, why not, if they are gonna fire ya anyway. Fuck em, go down swinging and smiling, a happy warrior on the right side of history.
 
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its just been reported the Hope Hicks allegedly said Trump Jr's russia meeting emails "Will Never Get Out"

Obstruction. so sad for trump, another mueller witness who will save her own ass...
 
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guess this came from mark carallos people. was just reading about his in wolff's book today. he quit at that time due to what he viewed as obstruction of justice.

hope hicks lawyer is denying.

looks like she gets some prison time to.

that's what happens when you get close to trump

he fucks you in the ass
 
DIY-HP-LED

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Trump must be freaking over the news tonight, he will be browbeating Hope Hicks to lie her head off. Corallo might even get a call from Trump telling him to dummy up, Trump is stupid and arrogant enough to try.

This whole business is starting to unravel in public, before it even hits court. Trump might be coming apart at the seems soon, the rat is getting cornered and might strike out. The pace of events quickens.
 
Chunky Stool

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DIY-HP-LED said:
Trump must be freaking over the news tonight, he will be browbeating Hope Hicks to lie her head off. Corallo might even get a call from Trump telling him to dummy up, Trump is stupid and arrogant enough to try.

This whole business is starting to unravel in public, before it even hits court. Trump might be coming apart at the seems soon, the rat is getting cornered and might strike out. The pace of events quickens.
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I hope he doesn't start a new war.
He struck out with N. Korea and now he's provoking Iran.

When he does finally have to defend his actions in court, Trump will probably claim insanity from dementia/Alzheimer's.
 
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I wonder if the FBI director will resign over this bullshit...

The GOP is crazy if they think they can go all out for Donald until november.
 
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More and more thoughts are turning to november and if this situation persists, the GOP is fucked even more. Maybe they figured they hit rock bottom and like Trump only the base matters, they've already lost everybody with a brain, so why not. Burn down the country and try to keep out of jail, this kinda sounds like a Mitch Mcconnell sleazy move, I wouldn't doubt he's the brains behind this crap. Other than retaining control of the base after november, I don't see what the end game is for these losers. Imagine, spooks, the FBI, the military, democrats and a motley crew of potheads and minorities are going to bat for the country and constitution. The flag waving, Jesus freak republicans who are lead by the next thing to the Devil himself are in bed with the russians and are not just ok with treason, but are actively supporting it.

This situation was brought to you by Rupert Murdoch and FOX news who for years created and cultivated an alternative universe of fact and spin. The base is driving this situation and really forcing the GOP leadership to go radical and they were created and are whipped up by right wing alternative media. Any solution to the problems the country faces must include a good hard look at this part of the situation, cable TV is fading away, but the internet and russians are the next challenge. Murdock has fucked over America for a profit and divided the country between the "fake media" and fox and other propaganda outlets. If your looking for the root cause of the current situation, look no further.

News serves the user, propaganda serves those who create it.
 
greg nr

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DIY-HP-LED said:
More and more thoughts are turning to november and if this situation persists, the GOP is fucked even more. Maybe they figured they hit rock bottom and like Trump only the base matters, they've already lost everybody with a brain, so why not. Burn down the country and try to keep out of jail, this kinda sounds like a Mitch Mcconnell sleazy move, I wouldn't doubt he's the brains behind this crap. Other than retaining control of the base after november, I don't see what the end game is for these losers. Imagine, spooks, the FBI, the military, democrats and a motley crew of potheads and minorities are going to bat for the country and constitution. The flag waving, Jesus freak republicans who are lead by the next thing to the Devil himself are in bed with the russians and are not just ok with treason, but are actively supporting it.

This situation was brought to you by Rupert Murdoch and FOX news who for years created and cultivated an alternative universe of fact and spin. The base is driving this situation and really forcing the GOP leadership to go radical and they were created and are whipped up by right wing alternative media. Any solution to the problems the country faces must include a good hard look at this part of the situation, cable TV is fading away, but the internet and russians are the next challenge. Murdock has fucked over America for a profit and divided the country between the "fake media" and fox and other propaganda outlets. If your looking for the root cause of the current situation, look no further.

News serves the user, propaganda serves those who create it.
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Actually there are some indicators to say things may be swinging back, that coalition indies may be back with the gop.

6 months is an eternity, and don't assume the gop base will abandon them. They won't. These people hate anyone who isn't them and their minds are closed.

Dark money pac's are collecting hundreds of millions of dollars from everyone from russian billionaires to the koch brothers.

Voter suppression is still being expanded. Gerrymandering is being kept strong at scotus.

Fox entertainment, infowars, brietbart, and other like sites haven't gone anywhere. The russian bots are as active as ever. Twitter and facebook are as porous as ever. The wall street journal and the new york times are still fanboyz.

Just trying to find news that doesn't make you pound the table is very hard; and that isn't because the facts are against us. It's because the whurlitzer is drowning out every reasonable thought.

Don't mistake the blue water in your toilet for a blue wave. It isn't over yet, but it isn't ours to take for granted.
 
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greg nr said:
Actually there are some indicators to say things may be swinging back, that coalition indies may be back with the gop.

6 months is an eternity, and don't assume the gop base will abandon them. They won't. These people hate anyone who isn't them and their minds are closed.

Dark money pac's are collecting hundreds of millions of dollars from everyone from russian billionaires to the koch brothers.

Voter suppression is still being expanded. Gerrymandering is being kept strong at scotus.

Fox entertainment, infowars, brietbart, and other like sites haven't gone anywhere. The russian bots are as active as ever. Twitter and facebook are as porous as ever. The wall street journal and the new york times are still fanboyz.

Just trying to find news that doesn't make you pound the table is very hard; and that isn't because the facts are against us. It's because the whurlitzer is drowning out every reasonable thought.

Don't mistake the blue water in your toilet for a blue wave. It isn't over yet, but it isn't ours to take for granted.
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The GOP chairs aren't running for a reason and there are lot's of incumbents that are not running either. They do their own polling and if they don't have confidence in reelection, something is making them give up on plum committee chair jobs. The news is only gonna be bad for Trump and the GOP from here on out. They know something catastrophic is coming out and are trying to get ahead of it and provide Trump with the excuse to fire Rosenstein. This is a national security issue and they threw away the rulebook for Trump, some are risking jail at some future point, all of this stuff is gonna come out.

I still think Trump is gone in march. He will leave the GOP holding the bag and fucked over, just like his investors, bankers and employees. The best predictor of future performance is past actions, everything this guy touches dies, the GOP ain't gonna be any different. Longer term, the only real question is how big the mess will be and how many will end up in jail. A lot of assholes are gonna go down with Donald, the FBI has a hardon for these jerks that a cat couldn't scratch. They better make sure they are not breaking any laws, cause they broke the rules and are fair game, the dems won't have to lift a finger either.

This fight is turning life or death, Trump or America, the rule of Donald or the rule of law, choose. The reason it's getting so extreme is that Donald knows that he's guilty of treason and a bunch of other things to numerous to count. It really is life and death for him and increasingly others too.

There might not be blue water in the toilet after the next election, but there will be red water, as a lot of GOP people will be bleeding from the ass, they are getting an epic screwing, or your country is done. Ya can't be that stupid and survive, it's against a law of nature, natural selection I believe it's called. Too bad they don't teach evolution much down south of the border, too dumb to live is a universal concept though. Apparently by voting with their feet, a lot of republicans don't think their country is stupid enough to elect them.
 
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greg nr

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DIY-HP-LED said:
The GOP chairs aren't running for a reason and there are lot's of incumbents that are not running either. They do their own polling and if they don't have confidence in reelection, something is making them give up on plum committee chair jobs. The news is only gonna be bad for Trump and the GOP from here on out. They know something catastrophic is coming out and are trying to get ahead of it and provide Trump with the excuse to fire Rosenstein. This is a national security issue and they threw away the rulebook for Trump, some are risking jail at some future point, all of this stuff is gonna come out.

I still think Trump is gone in march. He will leave the GOP holding the bag and fucked over, just like his investors, bankers and employees. The best predictor of future performance is past actions, everything this guy touches dies, the GOP ain't gonna be any different. Longer term, the only real question is how big the mess will be and how many will end up in jail. A lot of assholes are gonna go down with Donald, the FBI has a hardon for these jerks that a cat couldn't scratch. They better make sure they are not breaking any laws, cause they broke the rules and are fair game, the dems won't have to lift a finger either.

This fight is turning life or death, Trump or America, the rule of Donald or the rule of law, choose. The reason it's getting so extreme is that Donald knows that he's guilty of treason and a bunch of other things to numerous to count. It really is life and death for him and increasingly others too.

There might not be blue water in the toilet after the next election, but there will be red water, as a lot of GOP people will be bleeding from the ass, they are getting an epic screwing, or your country is done. Ya can't be that stupid and survive, it's against a law of nature, natural selection I believe it's called. Too bad they don't teach evolution much down south of the border, too dumb to live is a universal concept though.
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In a fair fight, you would be correct. But this is a dirty war. One side doesn't intend to take prisoners. The end will justify the means. We have to fight this accordingly. But most importantly, people need to stick together and not get distracted by internecine politics in our own party.

We are already seeing fights break out over dreamers. At some point we will be fighting over blm and a half dozen other special interest positions. These splits will be worsened by russian bot activity and the press, which will grow bored of russia in time. Then we will have one wing actively primarying another wing, and losing seats.

You can say we only need 2 seats to take back the senate; but we need to win 12 elections. 10 dems are up for re-election and at least 3 of those are vulnerable. It doesn't take a lot of pushing to move the polls a couple of points when you have unlimited funds, no need to follow laws, and foreign and domestic helpers.

While the house would be nice, the senate is the more important house if you can only have 1. The senate controls appointments. And don't forget, they will prosecute any impeachment so if we win the house without the senate you could bet there will be a no fact prosecution resulting in a nothing burger result along party lines.

2018 isn't going to be a cakewalk. It is going to be an ugly, no hold barred, exercise in asymmetric warfare. Don't rely on "people" to do the right thing. They never do. Turnout is the best defense, but they have countermeasures.
 
DIY-HP-LED

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I agree with most of what you are saying, but don't underestimate the reaction to Trump and Russia among people who usually lean republican. It's about the only issue that could separate them from the GOP, those folks are concerned and paying attention. If ya grew up with the cold war, it's a tough thing to shake, who else has got thousands of nuclear tipped missiles pointed at you? This business is gonna gut the GOP and change the identity of the party for a long time. Figure there are any FBI people left in the party after this bullshit plays out?

The GOP is losing the national security, defense and justice communities because of the russia business. Lot's of unlikely groups are forming alliances, potheads and the FBI for instance! Politics makes strange bedfellows indeed.

I wonder if the FBI director is gonna resign? Wouldn't make a difference if he did though, nothing matters. If I were him I'd make Trump fire me by speaking out, he should not resign, make a fight out of it if yer gonna go anyway. It should be as messy as possible and Wray should say some shocking things on his way out the door. Make Trump flip out.
 
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Depending on how this stuff pans out, if Trump is still around, maybe the next 420 protest should be in support of the FBI! Yep support the FBI signs at 420 smoke ins and protests across the country in April. That should get some media attention!:lol:
 
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