The "D" day pool, best guess as to when Trump is out

greg nr said:
It is looking more and more like the bastards will win. They are positioning the firing of rosenstein as we speak. Once that happens, the investigations are over. No recourse. It won't matter if there are sealed indictments or what evidence exists, it will never see the light of day.

Trump will burn the proverbial house down to keep from losing it. And congress will just let him do it.
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Mueller will release it all and basically say "fuck you, prosecute me". I don't think that is gonna happen, Jeff Sessions is gonna take a bullet for Rosenstein, or take something up the ass. No balls in human history are being squeezed like Jeff Sessions balls are being squeezed right now. His darkest fears are on the line and he ain't gonna depend on Donald for anything, much less a pardon, he's a vicious little prick, not a stupid one. Sessions is Mueller's ace in the hole, he might even be wearing a wire, if I was Mueller I'd have the works of em wired, no problem getting the warrants either. Look for Trump to fire Sessions, but first he's gonna lean on him to fire Rosenstein, speak into the microphone Mr. President...
 
DIY-HP-LED said:
Mueller will release it all and basically say "fuck you, prosecute me". I don't think that is gonna happen, Jeff Sessions is gonna take a bullet for Rosenstein, or take something up the ass. No balls in human history are being squeezed like Jeff Sessions balls are being squeezed right now. His darkest fears are on the line and he ain't gonna depend on Donald for anything, much less a pardon, he's a vicious little prick, not a stupid one. Sessions is Mueller's ace in the hole, he might even be wearing a wire, if I was Mueller I'd have the works of em wired, no problem getting the warrants either. Look for Trump to fire Sessions, but first he's gonna lean on him to fire Rosenstein, speak into the microphone Mr. President...
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First, muehler won't violate the law and just release evidence. He could unseal indictments if he gets enough time between rosenstein being fired and him being ordered to shut everything down. But he will have precious little time. It may even be instantaneous. Not hard to do. Order muehler to a meeting with sessions - fire rosenstein and immediately appoint an interim deputy ag - who appears at the meeting and changes the scope of the investigation to nothing that can be prosecuted.

Second, sessions help wouldn't be needed to fire rosenstein. Trump can do that directly.

Third, firing sessions would have the same effect. By putting someone in there who is not recused, responsibility falls back to the ag.

While both positions - the ag and the deputy ag need to be confirmed by congress, trump can do an interim appointment for (I think) 18 months. As long as the appointment has already been confirmed by the senate for any other position, they can serve as interim ag or interim deputy ag. All it takes is trump saying so.

We give our presidents virtually unlimited power. The only remedy explicitly in the constitution is impeachment. If congress doesn't agree the president should be removed, it doesn't matter what they do.

All prosecutions at the federal level begin and end with the DoJ. Trump owns that institution. HE is only temporarily stymied because the people responsible are not in his pocket. But guess what? He can replace them.
 
greg nr said:
First, muehler won't violate the law and just release evidence. He could unseal indictments if he gets enough time between rosenstein being fired and him being ordered to shut everything down. But he will have precious little time. It may even be instantaneous. Not hard to do. Order muehler to a meeting with sessions - fire rosenstein and immediately appoint an interim deputy ag - who appears at the meeting and changes the scope of the investigation to nothing that can be prosecuted.

Second, sessions help wouldn't be needed to fire rosenstein. Trump can do that directly.

Third, firing sessions would have the same effect. By putting someone in there who is not recused, responsibility falls back to the ag.

While both positions - the ag and the deputy ag need to be confirmed by congress, trump can do an interim appointment for (I think) 18 months. As long as the appointment has already been confirmed by the senate for any other position, they can serve as interim ag or interim deputy ag. All it takes is trump saying so.

We give our presidents virtually unlimited power. The only remedy explicitly in the constitution is impeachment. If congress doesn't agree the president should be removed, it doesn't matter what they do.

All prosecutions at the federal level begin and end with the DoJ. Trump owns that institution. HE is only temporarily stymied because the people responsible are not in his pocket. But guess what? He can replace them.
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If Trump were some kind of evil genius, instead of an ignorant fool with minimum guidance, I'd agree more. Whatever land mines that can be placed are already in place and everything is being prepared for such an eventuality. A first year law student could put Trump away for a million years with what is publicly known. Trump is capable of anything, everybody knows this and are preparing for it. There is nothing to lose by having the WH wired for sound, there was a ton of evidence for cause and I don't figure they had a problem with warrants either. I figure there are tapes, lot's of them, there are also video confessions, we've all seen them.

Trump has a shitty legal team for this work and can't recruit better help cause the word is out among the lawyers, "He won't listen and he won't pay"!
 
DIY-HP-LED said:
Trump has a shitty legal team for this work and can't recruit better help cause the word is out among the lawyers, "He won't listen and he won't pay"!
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That's partially true. He won't listen to his lawyers for long. And they are shitty. But his lawyers would have counseled him to stay far away from the "memo". In fact, there is evidence that they did. He ignored them.

He did that because he listened to hannity. Hannity has called continuously to fire muehler, and he was one of the key influences on trump releasing the "memo".

You know he is calling for trump to fire rosenstein; he says it on his show. So does alex jones. So does fox and friends.

That's who he listens to. Would mcghann be able to stop him from firing rosenstein or sessions? Doubtful. His influence is gone since he provided testimony to muehler. Kelley is a joke. Staffers have no influence over this. Fox does.
 
greg nr said:
First, muehler won't violate the law and just release evidence. He could unseal indictments if he gets enough time between rosenstein being fired and him being ordered to shut everything down. But he will have precious little time. It may even be instantaneous. Not hard to do. Order muehler to a meeting with sessions - fire rosenstein and immediately appoint an interim deputy ag - who appears at the meeting and changes the scope of the investigation to nothing that can be prosecuted.

Second, sessions help wouldn't be needed to fire rosenstein. Trump can do that directly.

Third, firing sessions would have the same effect. By putting someone in there who is not recused, responsibility falls back to the ag.

While both positions - the ag and the deputy ag need to be confirmed by congress, trump can do an interim appointment for (I think) 18 months. As long as the appointment has already been confirmed by the senate for any other position, they can serve as interim ag or interim deputy ag. All it takes is trump saying so.

We give our presidents virtually unlimited power. The only remedy explicitly in the constitution is impeachment. If congress doesn't agree the president should be removed, it doesn't matter what they do.

All prosecutions at the federal level begin and end with the DoJ. Trump owns that institution. HE is only temporarily stymied because the people responsible are not in his pocket. But guess what? He can replace them.
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I don't figure Mueller would violate the law either, but he is a patriot first and would put his country before his own skin if required. He has character and has always been the kind of leader who leads from the front, he's smarter than Trump has much better legal help and I figure they got a plan to bring the beast down. Mueller knows a lot we don't, including why the GOP is going all out for Trump, I figure he's taken that into account too. There's a lot to be said for long experience in these matters, Bob knows all the tricks of the trade. Trump is dead meat, I don't care how many suicide bombers the GOP wants to set loose, Trump is too stupid to help. He's like some kids who get left a fortune and lose it (like he did), ya can't do enough for them, they still manage to fuck up.
 
greg nr said:
That's partially true. He won't listen to his lawyers for long. And they are shitty. But his lawyers would have counseled him to stay far away from the "memo". In fact, there is evidence that they did. He ignored them.

He did that because he listened to hannity. Hannity has called continuously to fire muehler, and he was one of the key influences on trump releasing the "memo".

You know he is calling for trump to fire rosenstein; he says it on his show. So does alex jones. So does fox and friends.

That's who he listens to. Would mcghann be able to stop him from firing rosenstein or sessions? Doubtful. His influence is gone since he provided testimony to muehler. Kelley is a joke. Staffers have no influence over this. Fox does.
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It sort of sounds like Muehler might have dirt on Fox Executives.
 
greg nr said:
That's partially true. He won't listen to his lawyers for long. And they are shitty. But his lawyers would have counseled him to stay far away from the "memo". In fact, there is evidence that they did. He ignored them.

He did that because he listened to hannity. Hannity has called continuously to fire muehler, and he was one of the key influences on trump releasing the "memo".

You know he is calling for trump to fire rosenstein; he says it on his show. So does alex jones. So does fox and friends.

That's who he listens to. Would mcghann be able to stop him from firing rosenstein or sessions? Doubtful. His influence is gone since he provided testimony to muehler. Kelley is a joke. Staffers have no influence over this. Fox does.
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So will the Russian bots, fire Rosenstein...
 
DIY-HP-LED said:
So will the Russian bots, fire Rosenstein...
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??? I don't get your question.

I'm sure they will create a hashtag and push it to millions of accounts. #firerosenstein. It may already exist.

But that just provides cover. Just like #releasethememo was a bot driven campaign.

But trump listens to people in the alt-reality world. Not those in this world.
 
Grandpapy said:
It sort of sounds like Muehler might have dirt on Fox Executives.
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I seem to remember some fox celebs were on the transition team in some capacity. They were also in the loop on a lot of the obstruction activities.

And we know hannity is in regular contact with assange. You know there is a fisa warrant on assange. So hannity has probably appeared in a lot of intercepts.

So it is possible.
 
greg nr said:
??? I don't get your question.

I'm sure they will create a hashtag and push it to millions of accounts. #firerosenstein. It may already exist.

But that just provides cover. Just like #releasethememo was a bot driven campaign.

But trump listens to people in the alt-reality world. Not those in this world.
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I was commenting that they are in bed with the russians on this one too, joined at the hip like a three legged man, Trump the GOP and the russians. The Trump/GOP talking points are echoed by moscow and their bots
 
DIY-HP-LED said:
I can think of some african Americans who might beat the shit out of ya for using such a racial slur. Words can be used as weapons, you showed yours, they create harm not harmony, your being judged by your thoughts, words and actions, not your race or ethnicity. Your being judged by the "content of your character" as that great American MLK once said.

The fact that you have to ask "what is treason?" speaks volumes. I'll give you a simple example: Putin with his hand up Trump's ass working his mouth like a ventriloquist dummy, for his interests, not America's. Do you love yer country or hate many of the people in it because they are brown? Only racism/tribalism can jerk somebody's chain so bad that they fuck themselves, happens everyday. Your really just another victim of a con man, sucked in to fuck yourself and the country too. Trump has made you look like a fool in the eyes of the world, patriotic Americans are outraged, you are not.

BTW God also judges ya on yer thoughts, words, and actions, ya can't get through the pearly gates carrying the baggage of hate. Our intentions show through in everything we do, your no different.

No room for racist in heaven or it wouldn't be heaven, would it? The good news is ya can grow and change, yer not stuck being an idiot forever, you have a choice in the matter.

Are ya tired of winning yet?
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Just because thinking for yourself is hard doesn't mean you shouldn't do it.
 
b4ds33d said:
Just because thinking for yourself is hard doesn't mean you shouldn't do it.
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What you think is reflected in what you say, being brainwashed by Trump and the GOP is not thinking for yourself. I would suggest (seriously) 8 weeks of mindfulness meditation (exercise) to clear your mind so you can think more clearly. There are many free university courses online. http://www.fammed.wisc.edu/mindfulness/research/

Have a look at this, peace comes from within
 
Trump will serve two terms, maybe more.....unless he just gets bored with winning. All the losers will be sent to an island built by China and paid for by China to be in a circle jerk the rest of their days.
 
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