There's this certain FISA memo......

Bugeye

Well-Known Member
Host Muslim refugees in your home, yoga nazi.
Hell, make a pizza party out of it. ;)

But now to see 2 differing points of view from "intelligence" agents about the memo:

In an op-ed for The New York Times, former supervisory special agent Josh Campbell wrote that "political attacks on the bureau must stop."

"After more than a decade of service, which included investigating terrorism, working to rescue kidnapping victims overseas and being special assistant to the director, I am reluctantly turning in my badge and leaving an organization I love." Campbell wrote.

"Why? So I can join the growing chorus of people who believe that the relentless attacks on the bureau undermine not just America's premier law enforcement agency but also the nation\u2019s security," he continued.

"My resignation is painful, but the alternative of remaining quiet while the bureau is tarnished for political gain is impossible."

Campbell also defended the agency's involvement in the events described in the memo, which alleges the FBI and Department of Justice abused their surveillance powers.

"[E]very statement of fact included in an affidavit for foreign intelligence collection must withstand the scrutiny of at least 10 people in the Department of Justice hierarchy before it is reviewed by an independent court," he wrote.

Campbell goes on to argue it would be "disingenuous" for Republicans to argue that the FBI is "plotting from within" against Trump or in favor of his 2016 opponent, Hillary Clinton, despite text messages between FBI employees Peter Strzok and Lisa Page seeming to confirm Strzok's political bias against Trump.

"These political attacks on the bureau must stop. If those critics of the agency persuade the public that the FBI cannot be trusted, they will also have succeeded in making our nation less safe," he said.

Campbell's op-ed comes after the publication Friday of Nunes' memo allegedly detailing abuses of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act by the FBI.

However, another former intelligence agency operative saw things very differently.

Ray McGovern, 27-year veteran of the CIA and co-founder of Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity (VIPS), exclaims the newly released "Nunes Memo" reveals felony wrongdoing by top members of the FBI and DOJ for misrepresenting evidence to obtain a FISA warrant and may implicate other intelligence officials.

The long-awaited House Intelligence Committee report made public today identifies current and former top officials of the FBI and the Department of Justice as guilty of the felony of misrepresenting evidence required to obtain a court warrant before surveilling American citizens. The target was candidate Donald Trump\u2019s adviser Carter Page.

The main points of what is widely known as the \u201cNunes Memo,\u201d after the House Intelligence Committee Chair Devin Nunes (R-Calif.), have been nicely summarized by blogger Publius Tacitus, who noted that the following very senior officials are now liable for contempt-of-court charges; namely, the current and former members of the FBI and the Department of Justice who signed off on fraudulent applications to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court: James Comey, Andy McCabe, Sally Yates, Dana Boente and Rob Rosenstein. The following is Publius Tacitus\u2019s summary of the main points:

  • The dubious but celebrated Steele Dossier played a critical role in obtaining approval from the FISA court to carry out surveillance of Carter Page according to former FBI Deputy Director Andy McCabe.
  • Christopher Steele was getting paid by the DNC and the FBI for the same information.
  • No one at the FBI or the DOJ disclosed to the court that the Steele dossier was paid for by an opposition political campaign.
  • The first FISA warrant was obtained on October 21, 2016 based on a story written by Michael Isikoff for Yahoo News based on information he received directly from Christopher Steele - the FBI did not disclose in the FISA application that Steele was the original source of the information.
  • Christopher Steele was a long-standing FBI "source" but was terminated as a source after telling Mother Jones reporter David Corn that he had a relationship with the FBI.
  • The FBI signers of the FISA applications/renewals were James Comey (three times) and Andrew McCabe.
  • The DOJ signers of the FISA applications/renewals were Sally Yates, Dana Boente and Rod Rosenstein.
  • Even after Steele was terminated by the FBI, he remained in contact with Deputy Attorney General Bruce Our, whose wife worked for FUSION GPS, a contractor that was deeply involved with the Steele dossier.

From what Michael Isikoff reported in September 2016 it appears that the CIA and the Director of National Intelligence (as well as the FBI) are implicated in spreading the disinformation about Trump and Russia. Isikoff wrote:

"U.S. intelligence officials are seeking to determine whether an American businessman identified by Donald Trump as one of his foreign policy advisers has opened up private communications with senior Russian officials \u2014 including talks about the possible lifting of economic sanctions if the Republican nominee becomes president, according to multiple sources who have been briefed on the issue. "

"But U.S. officials have since received intelligence reports that during that same three-day trip, Page met with Igor Sechin, a longtime Putin associate and former Russian deputy prime minister who is now the executive chairman of Rosneft, Russian\u2019s leading oil company, a well-placed Western intelligence source tells Yahoo News."


Who were the "intelligence officials" briefing the select members of the House and Senate? That will be one of the next shoes to drop. We are likely to learn in the coming days that John Brennan and Jim Clapper were also trying to help the FBI build a fallacious case against Trump, adds Tacitus.

Indeed, Rep. Greg Walden (R-OR), Chair of the House Energy and Commerce Committee, has already indicated that his disclosures in the Nunes Memo represent just "one piece of a probably much larger mosaic of what went on."​
The memo is far from a nothing burger for the folks at the FBI. Could have been a nothing burger for the dems if they hadn't lied to us about it revealing sources and methods. So weird to choose that tact on a memo you pretty much know is getting released. Thoughts?
 

Bugeye

Well-Known Member
when you can never dazzle with brilliance, you must always baffle with bullshit.

poor nazi won't even condemn nazis
Upset he won't dance for you? lol Why should he if does not value your opinions? Maybe he understands that proving a negative is not in any way his obligation? lol So funny buck, give us some more!
 

UncleBuck

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The memo is far from a nothing burger
4 indictments and guilty pleas for conspiring against the united states, money laundering, lying to the FBI, and more = nothingburger

a phony edited memo completely made up by the white house and their co-conspirators in a pathetic attempt to discredit mueller = NOT A NOTHINGBURGER!

jesus you are such a transparent trump cocksucker, fatass.
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
Upset he won't dance for you? lol Why should he if does not value your opinions? Maybe he understands that proving a negative is not in any way his obligation? lol So funny buck, give us some more!
yep, stick up for people who refuse to condemn neo-nazis. that's a good look on you, unfuckable.
 

UncleBuck

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@Bugeye - You're so lucky.

If only I could get Buckold to consider me that way (unfuckable) instead of its vain attempts to garner my attention in hopes of something other than its own fist in its ass for amusement.

Sorry Buckold, I will not fill in for Balddick, Squeaky, or ceefus since they spurned you for the much more enjoyable (at least easily identifiable as female) attentions of SourRack.
you are a self-proclaimed homophobe. you are aware that indicates you harbor latent homosexual desires, right?
 

choomer

Well-Known Member
The memo is far from a nothing burger for the folks at the FBI. Could have been a nothing burger for the dems if they hadn't lied to us about it revealing sources and methods. So weird to choose that tact on a memo you pretty much know is getting released. Thoughts?
Kabuki Theater (aka dead and circuses)!

While it shows the FBI/FISA as biased and inept, I doubt it will amount to much more than earlier instances of law enforcement ineptitude like WACO (FBI), Ruby Ridge (FBI, BATF, and USAO), Bundy Ranch (BLM), Malheur Refuge Standoff (BLM, USFS, FBI), etc.

What better way to distract you from the fact the doomsday clock is @ 2 minutes to midnight and has only once (1953) ever been that close in atomic arms history.
you are a self-proclaimed homophobe. you are aware that indicates you harbor latent homosexual desires, right?
Nope.
I do notice how homosexuality is a cornerstone of your interests though.
Why don't you cite the "rear reviewed" study where the assertion you claim above comes from?
 

Heil Tweetler

Well-Known Member
sucking dotards nads ;)

But now to see 2 differing points of view from "intelligence" agents about the memo:

In an op-ed for The New York Times, former supervisory special agent Josh Campbell wrote that "political attacks on the bureau must stop."

"After more than a decade of service, which included investigating terrorism, working to rescue kidnapping victims overseas and being special assistant to the director, I am reluctantly turning in my badge and leaving an organization I love." Campbell wrote.

"Why? So I can join the growing chorus of people who believe that the relentless attacks on the bureau undermine not just America's premier law enforcement agency but also the nation\u2019s security," he continued.

"My resignation is painful, but the alternative of remaining quiet while the bureau is tarnished for political gain is impossible."

Campbell also defended the agency's involvement in the events described in the memo, which alleges the FBI and Department of Justice abused their surveillance powers.

"[E]very statement of fact included in an affidavit for foreign intelligence collection must withstand the scrutiny of at least 10 people in the Department of Justice hierarchy before it is reviewed by an independent court," he wrote.

Campbell goes on to argue it would be "disingenuous" for Republicans to argue that the FBI is "plotting from within" against Trump or in favor of his 2016 opponent, Hillary Clinton, despite text messages between FBI employees Peter Strzok and Lisa Page seeming to confirm Strzok's political bias against Trump.

"These political attacks on the bureau must stop. If those critics of the agency persuade the public that the FBI cannot be trusted, they will also have succeeded in making our nation less safe," he said.

Campbell's op-ed comes after the publication Friday of Nunes' memo allegedly detailing abuses of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act by the FBI.

However, another former intelligence agency operative saw things very differently.

Ray McGovern, 27-year veteran of the CIA and co-founder of Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity (VIPS), exclaims the newly released "Nunes Memo" reveals felony wrongdoing by top members of the FBI and DOJ for misrepresenting evidence to obtain a FISA warrant and may implicate other intelligence officials.

The long-awaited House Intelligence Committee report made public today identifies current and former top officials of the FBI and the Department of Justice as guilty of the felony of misrepresenting evidence required to obtain a court warrant before surveilling American citizens. The target was candidate Donald Trump\u2019s adviser Carter Page.

The main points of what is widely known as the \u201cNunes Memo,\u201d after the House Intelligence Committee Chair Devin Nunes (R-Calif.), have been nicely summarized by blogger Publius Tacitus, who noted that the following very senior officials are now liable for contempt-of-court charges; namely, the current and former members of the FBI and the Department of Justice who signed off on fraudulent applications to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court: James Comey, Andy McCabe, Sally Yates, Dana Boente and Rob Rosenstein. The following is Publius Tacitus\u2019s summary of the main points:

  • The dubious but celebrated Steele Dossier played a critical role in obtaining approval from the FISA court to carry out surveillance of Carter Page according to former FBI Deputy Director Andy McCabe.
  • Christopher Steele was getting paid by the DNC and the FBI for the same information.
  • No one at the FBI or the DOJ disclosed to the court that the Steele dossier was paid for by an opposition political campaign.
  • The first FISA warrant was obtained on October 21, 2016 based on a story written by Michael Isikoff for Yahoo News based on information he received directly from Christopher Steele - the FBI did not disclose in the FISA application that Steele was the original source of the information.
  • Christopher Steele was a long-standing FBI "source" but was terminated as a source after telling Mother Jones reporter David Corn that he had a relationship with the FBI.
  • The FBI signers of the FISA applications/renewals were James Comey (three times) and Andrew McCabe.
  • The DOJ signers of the FISA applications/renewals were Sally Yates, Dana Boente and Rod Rosenstein.
  • Even after Steele was terminated by the FBI, he remained in contact with Deputy Attorney General Bruce Our, whose wife worked for FUSION GPS, a contractor that was deeply involved with the Steele dossier.

From what Michael Isikoff reported in September 2016 it appears that the CIA and the Director of National Intelligence (as well as the FBI) are implicated in spreading the disinformation about Trump and Russia. Isikoff wrote:

"U.S. intelligence officials are seeking to determine whether an American businessman identified by Donald Trump as one of his foreign policy advisers has opened up private communications with senior Russian officials \u2014 including talks about the possible lifting of economic sanctions if the Republican nominee becomes president, according to multiple sources who have been briefed on the issue. "

"But U.S. officials have since received intelligence reports that during that same three-day trip, Page met with Igor Sechin, a longtime Putin associate and former Russian deputy prime minister who is now the executive chairman of Rosneft, Russian\u2019s leading oil company, a well-placed Western intelligence source tells Yahoo News."


Who were the "intelligence officials" briefing the select members of the House and Senate? That will be one of the next shoes to drop. We are likely to learn in the coming days that John Brennan and Jim Clapper were also trying to help the FBI build a fallacious case against Trump, adds Tacitus.

Indeed, Rep. Greg Walden (R-OR), Chair of the House Energy and Commerce Committee, has already indicated that his disclosures in the Nunes Memo represent just "one piece of a probably much larger mosaic of what went on."​
Reported for continuous, excessive word shitting.


Imagine how different our country would be today if after the inauguration Trump had said
“ I want a thorough investigation into Russian meddling in our election - to prove my innocence and to give the citizens confidence in their government and our elections.”
“ I want to be the president of all the people, not just those who voted for me”
Of course…only an innocent person could have done that.
 
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UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
well it's true. self proclaimed homophobes like you harbor latent homosexual desires.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8772014

Both groups exhibited increases in penile circumference to the heterosexual and female homosexual videos. Only the homophobic men showed an increase in penile erection to male homosexual stimuli. The groups did not differ in aggression. Homophobia is apparently associated with homosexual arousal that the homophobic individual is either unaware of or denies.
 

pabloesqobar

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Son, crawl out of dotards asshole and you'll be liberated, unconcerned with the credibility of your tormentors.
Unlike you, I have no political affiliations. It's just funny seeing super smart political minds like yourself . . . posting bullshit incorrect political memes. Good job.
 
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