Stunned420
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These days... with what we know now.....
who in their right mind would part with their hard earned cash for a light like bestva?
who in their right mind would part with their hard earned cash for a light like bestva?
Bought a bestva 2000watt led grow light.
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GrowLightResearch
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The Kind is not that bad. This bestVA is beyond horrific. Send it back!
You got robbed. This vendor is a liar and fraud.
It is NOT 2000W, not even close. Probably less than a 100W HPS equivalent.
If you do not send it back you flushed your money.
If you own a drill and a hacksaw and know how to use them, get some strips.
You got robbed. This vendor is a liar and fraud.
It is NOT 2000W, not even close. Probably less than a 100W HPS equivalent.
If you do not send it back you flushed your money.
If you own a drill and a hacksaw and know how to use them, get some strips.
CobKits
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"turbocharged it" = "changed the website description from 1200 to 2000W"
Johnny Lawrence
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Ignore that for now. The uv and ir diodes that most of the blurple manufacturers put out are mostly garbage.
Johnny Lawrence
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For the price? Really???
Olive Drab Green
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That thing’s pretty horrible. And, for the price of a Kind, I could get, like.. a 6-emitter COB rack, and grow way more/better bud for less wattage. Ripoff company.
Stunned420
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most companys and fanbois of those companys are scared because they know white light is putting them outta business
GrowLightResearch
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One of my clients is the University of Florida Horticulture Dept. and they like it. Keeping in mind they got a $500,000 grant to see if LED light could extend the shelf life of strawberries.
They love their four $3,000 Heliospectra RX30 too. Whole different perspective.
hybridway2
Amare Shill
If you only paid 200 for it, id say you did allot better then most of us a few hrs ago. That thing will veg balls, supplement white & do a job. Maybe not THE job but a job. One well worth the punk ass 200 you spent.
Johnny Lawrence
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Pretty sure that Stunned420 isn't employed by a University. For an individual grower, Kind LEDs are a fucking horrible suggestion.
GrowLightResearch
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How do you arrive at that conclusion?
Viceman666
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Simple.. much more expensive and less efficient than the new technology like COB, QB, strips...
Kind was "good" few yrs ago amongst other blurple lights but that technology is no longer worth it IMO. Kind will still grow good plants.. but why pay more when you can pay less, also use less electricity and achieve same or better results?
GrowLightResearch
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It's not a "burple". It has 12 programmable wavelengths.
Burple? What are you 3? Is that a color in your crayon box? Get some big boy crayons with magenta instead of burple.
New technology? Have you been living in a cave? CoBs are horrible IMO.
What has changed in the past few years?
Quality and flexibility has its cost.
Not everyone is on a shoestring budget.
The Kind is probably the most efficient grow light available in its class.
Have you used one, or did you just pull that out of your ass?
Can you adjust your spectrum to optimize the production of cannabinoids, taste, and aroma?
If others do not agree with your opinion does that make the other opinions horrible?
Name one fixture that can achieve better results and explain why?
A Kind K5 XL1000 cost the same as an HLG 550. Which is better and why?
A Heliospectra RX30 is $3,000 and probably the only fixture that is in the same class as the Kind K5. Makes Kind a bargain.
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Viceman666
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Wow! I wish I had more time to respond to all you said but I dont.. so I will try to keep it simple as much as possible.
First there is a at least a few hundreds$$ difference between the xl1000 vs hlg550.. second the quantum board are more efficient its just a fact they use samsung led chips which has the most lumen/w they also offer a better spread of light = better coverage. Do you research. You dont like COB thats fine but you cant say they are less efficient. You think playing with your spectrum will really be worth it? Do a side by side and lets compare the results.. to my knowledge people are able to grow similar results with 3000k,3500k or 4000k and you know what they all have different spectrum so as long as you cover the basis you're good.. pay 30% more on the unit and pay more electricity per lumen output and get what a few percents AT most in return? (And once again youd have to prove it)
As I said you can grow with the kind led xl1000 and im sure you get similar to 1000w hps result.. all im saying is there is better option at a better price.
You are right maybe saying that its a horrible choice wasnt the best choice of words but in all honesty unless you have specific reasons that you would want to buy kind led I really dont see any advantage over QB or COB (and go away with that adjustable spectrum unless you can prove its worth it)
GrowLightResearch
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Yes I can. The Kind K5 is more efficient than a CoB.
Mono LEDs are intrinsically more efficient that a phosphor pumped LED.
I totally agree. But if someone is considering a Kind you should not blindly say it is a bad decision. Especially when you have nothing to base it on. Kind is not a bad value. It's just more expensive than most. Look inside one or read the manual and you will see why it costs more. And Not that much more. You can buy a Kind K5 XL1000 for around $1,100. $1,300 at Home Depot.
Absolutely. There is a whole world out there that apparently you are not aware it exists.
I do not measure in Lumens. Lumens for a custom spectrum cannot be compared to a white LED.
Fine for hobbists, not serious professionals.
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hybridway2
Amare Shill
GrowLightResearch
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Have you tried one?
He said I could not say it was more efficient. Well I did.
And it is true.
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hybridway2
Amare Shill
Cut that Kind to 5/8 the power it's using now & it may come close to the efficiency of a good fixture.
No, I wouldn't buy one when I was a new led user. Bought a Hudroponics Hut instead.
Put it up against a decent light & it got smashed.
My buddy bought one, it can all beat up w/ bad diodes. The comp. gave him a rash n a shit about it. Terrible warranty & service.
Do the new ones offer mostly wh/ w/ the option to enhance via controls w/ R's+B's?
If so, then dimming it down to 5/8 & selecting the right spectrum will do The job too. Just over a small area though.
Good luck.
Most of these guys are justvtryingvto help.
If your name is HoLightResearch, don't you think being more open minded will help w/ your research?
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Viceman666
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So please provide me proof that playing with different spectrum will significantly change the quality/yield and then I will listen until them I will assume it has a minimal impact has long as you have some blue for veg and some red for flower.
Lets just stop the debate here on the "magenta" light. For the same spectrum they have a lower light output than white LED making them less efficient.
Kind K5 is more efficient than COB? Hahaha.. oh well whatever you think man.. keep growing with your kind light and im happy for you that it is working well. I think there has been enough proof in other thread to tell you otherwise..
HolyGhost23
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re stock your shit and ill buy 2 driver kits off you. if you ship to Canada. ive been waiting for some citizen 1818 light engines for months. i dont want any of the drivers you have because there too soft