Micro Closet growbox under contruction

Arrid

Arrid

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MisterMicro said:
i had a space that was 13''l 11''w and 17'' high with a 150w hps, dude it can easily be done, and youll be so fucking happy, youll hunt me down, and make love to my anis.

Definatly going to be watchin this.

What did you decide on for vent fans? Im using the Thermaltake silent cats, i have a couple extra if interested. There 120mm with 65 cfm, they are mean little bastards, they also are the quitest fans on the market as far as cpu fans
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You can pick up much better pc fans on the net.
Check this out for $10!

Ever Cool 12cm Aluminum Low Noise Frame Case Fan, Silver Color-Best Computer Online Store Houston Buy Discount Prices Texas-Directron.com

[FONT=arial, helvetica]Air Flow: 79.14 CFM[/FONT]
Win!


AsbestosToast said:
TWENTY DOLLARS?!?!?!? HOLY SHIT!
can I use that to veg too, or will I need something in the 5700-6500k range?


This is definitely something I will have to do. I can have the light and homemade cool tube for the under the price I would need in CFL's to pump out that much light. I think.. haha. Thanks Arrid, commin through again. +Rep for all your help.
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Yeah, you'll usually be told to use a bit more light during flowering.

You could perhaps make two cooltubes and have two 150watts going during flowering, one during veg.

That would be killer!

Remember to get pc fans that are high in CFM.
Paying $10-15 is perfectly fine, shows you are buying a decent fan.

Just gotta make sure you wire them up CORRECTLY and that you don't fuck them up :D
 
MisterMicro

MisterMicro

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Arrid said:
You can pick up much better pc fans on the net.
Check this out for $10!

Ever Cool 12cm Aluminum Low Noise Frame Case Fan, Silver Color-Best Computer Online Store Houston Buy Discount Prices Texas-Directron.com

[FONT=arial, helvetica]Air Flow: 79.14 CFM[/FONT]
Win!





Yeah, you'll usually be told to use a bit more light during flowering.

You could perhaps make two cooltubes and have two 150watts going during flowering, one during veg.

That would be killer!

Remember to get pc fans that are high in CFM.
Paying $10-15 is perfectly fine, shows you are buying a decent fan.

Just gotta make sure you wire them up CORRECTLY and that you don't fuck them up :D
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Yeah, exept thats a loose. 35 dba sound ratting? average computer fans have a 22 dba, thats gotta sound like a mini blower, thermaltakes have 16 dba, and its still almost detectable:fire:
 
AsbestosToast

AsbestosToast

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Yeah, sounds like a plan to me! Sorry CFL guys, but at that price and size, who wouldn't go 150w hps. Hey arrid, mind sharing a bit of your vast knowledge on wiring PC fans?

While I will have 5-7 of these fans running, They will be in a box, in my closet, in my room. So sound may or may not be an issue. However, I can't have my mom questioning me about the humming coming from my closet haha. She knows I smoke, and I'm not really stressed about her finding it, but I'll cross that bridge when I get there, and not a minute sooner haha. In my opinion the less she knows about my less-than-legal activities the better.
Thanks for all the links and comments guys, keep em commin.

Toast
 
Arrid

Arrid

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MisterMicro said:
shitty pic but here she is, complete with 100% light proof ventilation, theres the themaltakes, i used 6 of them to make the magic happen.
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Dude that is ghetto as fuck!

hehe.

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I found a thread with the door attachments i was speaking of.

https://www.rollitup.org/grow-room-design-setup/108905-my-dresser-box-small.html





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A good way of keeping Dust out of your grow box is by buying some cheap pantyhose, cut them to size of intakes and pin/glue/do whatever them down.

So it's covering the intakes, this stops dust.

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if i think of anything else i'll post :D
 
MisterMicro

MisterMicro

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lol, yeah, the pic doesnt really give it justice, plus i obvioulsy wasnt completly done there. You gatta admidt its a badd ass little box non the less.

Arrid said:
Dude that is ghetto as fuck!

hehe.

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I found a thread with the door attachments i was speaking of.

https://www.rollitup.org/grow-room-design-setup/108905-my-dresser-box-small.html





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A good way of keeping Dust out of your grow box is by buying some cheap pantyhose, cut them to size of intakes and pin/glue/do whatever them down.

So it's covering the intakes, this stops dust.

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if i think of anything else i'll post :D
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MisterMicro

MisterMicro

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The light is on the bottom of the box, just making it clear. The side has a triangular cut, that is the air intake. The air channels in and to the left, under a side pannel that comes down the traingle half way to bloc light from bouncing into the hole.

The top has 3 pannels, if you look at the exaust level, all three pannels make a solid wall, blocking your view. But there is channels as you can see between each one where the air flos out. as you can see the base of the top (side in the pic) cuts shor of the wall, which is where the air flows up and through the pannels.

I was pretty proud of her.
 
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Grow.T

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i would not go with an hps... and if you do Cooltube is a must... with less then 200 wats... i run a 250 hps in a 2x2x4 spot in a cooltube with 2 small fans hooked up to cooltube via ducting.. and another bigger one used for carbon filter attached to the tent... it still gets to high 80's... i couldent imagine a hps in a box that small without some serious ventalation ... i would stick to an even distribution of cfls.. either 23 or 40ish watts... whatever u can find and rig it to a fixture u can lower/raise as your plants grow... flower them early or use a mix of LST and SCROG 1 intake low 1-2 exaust high near lights
 
MisterMicro

MisterMicro

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See that box above^^ that sported a 150wphs. enough said. I think the smaller the box actually, the cooler you could keep it. thats just how i imagine it anyways, cause the smaller you get the box, the more similar it is to a big cool tube, if you can imagine what im sayin..
 
Arrid

Arrid

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iamthatguy said:
That DIY cool tube is the shit!!!!!!! Wish I saw that sooner!
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Good isn't it :D


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You can easily keep a 150 watt hps cooled in a cooltube, just make sure the venting is further away from the box as so the intake fan for the box doesn't suck hot air back in.

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Arrid

Arrid

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AsbestosToast said:
I found this fan, looks pretty good to me, what do you guys think?
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looks good.

Are you going with the cooltube?

If so thats one fan you need. = 1

Intake and out take = 2

3 so far.

one for moving air inside the box = 1

4.

If you're gonna do two 150 watt hps for flowering buy two more fans, another for blowing air inside and one for the cooltube.


:D
 
GypsyBush

GypsyBush

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AsbestosToast said:
I found this fan, looks pretty good to me, what do you guys think?
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Uh! I know I was on of the people to get you an the HPS bandwagon, but I think you are going to need something a little more.. potent ... for the cool tube... if you are gonna go that route...

A squirrel cage fan is what you need... really... you need to move a lot of air to keep that glass cool...

Honestly, I would get at least a 250, if not a 400 and put a kick ass fan on it, inside of a muffle box... to keep it quiet... it can be a cardboard box on top of your grow... or next to it...

I don't know man, you seem pretty handy... why not build a kick ass box with all the right shit to begin with...?

I plan on having 4 trays like the one I have now under a 600 HPS in a 8" cool tube with a 265cfm cage fan... and that's for my miniatures...

Just food for thought...

Gypsy...:leaf:
 
AsbestosToast

AsbestosToast

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Yeah, the scale I'm growing at, I think 1 150w hps and 2 for flowering should be just fine. I will probably flower 2 plants, maybe 3 if they are manageable enough, with hopefully some room for clones. I guess I won't really know its limitations until I actually start it up. My mom is going to be gone next week, so I'll have a lot of free time to finish it and paint and acquire some hardware. Wouldn't hurt to start on my grow system either. Was going to go fog, but after reading that fog alone wasn't enough, I am forced to reconsider. What to you experienced folk prefer as far as aero or hydro? I was thinking DWC, since it seems so simple and easy. Wouldn't require pumps and timers and whatsuch like ebb/flow.
Let me know what you guys think.

Toast
 
MisterMicro

MisterMicro

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go hydro if you have some mean patience and time.

Oh be sure to join the CLUB VVVV, love to see ya around.
 
pacman123

pacman123

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GypsyBush said:
Ok... I understand where you are coming from.... exactly where I was a few months ago... and with the same thoughts...

It's all good man... the CFLs will work... but in all REALITY, by the time you have enough CFLs to flower, you will...

Have the same amount of money or more in to the lights... small HPS are NOT expensive at all... really...

Be burning about the same amount of electricity...

And if you use a cool tube, chances are you will have less heat than with the CFLs...

So you see, when you throw in the fact that it works soooo much better...

The only reason to get CFLs, is if you really want to make it a point of growing with CFLs...

Save your money, buy the right tools for the job and they will easily pay for themselves...

And just so you know... I HATED when people started telling me this... but I learned that they were right...

Go with what you know... man... that is always best... but there is something to be at least investigated here...

Again man... sorry if it sounds like I am telling you what to do.. I am not...

It is just a suggestion...

I am a micro grower... I get very little from each harvest, but I do want it to be the best I can make it... I can only imagine you are not that different...

Well, sorry to be a pain... but I'd hate for you to go for months and then realize you should have done it from day one...

Peace...

Gypsy...:bigjoint:
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Exactly what I went through. to the LETTER! Do yourself a HUGE favor, you are going to spend the same amount of money for WAY easier to use, efficient light if you get an HPS. HTG Supply has a 150HPS starter kit for like 69 bucks! Literally plug an play! Look at their eBay stuff, too. Always good prices.

Bottom line, most of us were where you are now, thinking "I'll just start with CFL's and if I like it/have the money/decide to upgrade I'll get an HPS..." And we all did, and we all upgraded. Some of us two or ten times! But the only reason we are taking the time to share this is to try to save you some time and cash. Of course the only way you'll ever KNOW the difference between the two is to try them both, so I encourage you to do what you think is best. Cheers!
 
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