Nutrient question I’ve been searching for 1/2 my life

Weed-noob

Weed-noob

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I always been a ml/gal kind of guy and I’m sick and tired of nutrient burn/nutrient dificiency/nutrient lockout/fucking nutrient problem etc...

I’m getting a TDS meter, BUT!!!........ My question is...........

How in the fuck do you divide the 3 part nutrient to the ppm suggested reflecting the week/stage of growth you’re at!

You could divide the three part nutrients equally BUT!!! That wouldn’t be good due the ambundance of N in bloom OR ambundance of K in veg...

Can an expert shed some light to this? Thanks guys
 
Lordhooha

Lordhooha

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Weed-noob said:
I always been a ml/gal kind of guy and I’m sick and tired of nutrient burn/nutrient dificiency/nutrient lockout/fucking nutrient problem etc...

I’m getting a TDS meter, BUT!!!........ My question is...........

How in the fuck do you divide the 3 part nutrient to the ppm suggested reflecting the week/stage of growth you’re at!

You could divide the three part nutrients equally BUT!!! That wouldn’t be good due the ambundance of N in bloom OR ambundance of K in veg...

Can an expert shed some light to this? Thanks guys
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Ditch the three part and checkout megacrop one dry power nutrient that blows bottles out of the water. Everything you need start to finish and you can get 21 lbs for 55 bucks before shipping. A lot of guys use it here too.
 
Weed-noob

Weed-noob

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Lordhooha said:
Ditch the three part and checkout megacrop one dry power nutrient that blows bottles out of the water. Everything you need start to finish and you can get 21 lbs for 55 bucks before shipping. A lot of guys use it here too.
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I’d try it out if I had free samples yeah
 
taint

taint

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Jacks professional 20-20-20 used at one half teaspoon per gallon every watering will produce an excellent crop.
 
blake9999

blake9999

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GeneBanker said:
May I ask does this replace your whole nutrient line? Is it mix with dirt, or sol.? The price tag is very attractive. Ive also seen enough people talk about it that im willing to take a stab at it.
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Depending on the stage of growth you mix between 3 grams per gallon for seedlings, up to 5 grams per gallon for full on veg/flowering. It is a one part that contains everything including Cal/Mag. It's so simple to use it's unreal. Take A look at this post. read the last three or four pages and look at other peoples plants using only Mega Crop.

https://www.rollitup.org/t/greenleaf-nutrients-and-mega-crop-happy-to-be-on-rui.946071/page-32
 
GeneBanker

GeneBanker

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Yeah i was reading on the website. Just didnt go far enough to see if it was a mix, or mix in. Cheers man! Going to order this next week for my new grow starting.
 
GeneBanker

GeneBanker

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blake9999 said:
@GreenleafNutrients is pretty active on the forum and can answer any of your questions...
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Would prob be whats the fastest you can get it here haha. Ive seen enough testimonials here that im confident to try. I was shopping around for materials on my next grow and nutes alone are around 150 dollars. 21lbs will last me a few grows! Cheers guys and sorry for jacking your thread O.P.
 
SmokeyMcChokey

SmokeyMcChokey

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Weed-noob said:
I always been a ml/gal kind of guy and I’m sick and tired of nutrient burn/nutrient dificiency/nutrient lockout/fucking nutrient problem etc...

I’m getting a TDS meter, BUT!!!........ My question is...........

How in the fuck do you divide the 3 part nutrient to the ppm suggested reflecting the week/stage of growth you’re at!

You could divide the three part nutrients equally BUT!!! That wouldn’t be good due the ambundance of N in bloom OR ambundance of K in veg...

Can an expert shed some light to this? Thanks guys
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You use the feed charts to give you proportions. After your first couple fills you'll get the hang of ball park. For instance if I remember right with gh flora the micro at 75ml per 10 gal only added 350 ppm where the bloom at 25 ml per 10 gal added 500 ppm. Numbers are not to reflect reality only to illustrate the point. Basically if you use a feed chart and it says at x ml per gal you'll get 1000 ppm. And you know you really wanna be at 750 just use 3/4 the amount of each nutrient. My panda film walls have 5 numbers written all over them where I mathed the ratios. As in 75 ml of micro 25 of grow and 125 of bloom. Scaled up or down to adjust ppm totals.
 
SmokeyMcChokey

SmokeyMcChokey

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Lordhooha said:
Ditch the three part and checkout megacrop one dry power nutrient that blows bottles out of the water. Everything you need start to finish and you can get 21 lbs for 55 bucks before shipping. A lot of guys use it here too.
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I use it. It's easy and works well and is stable with my well water.my only gripe is the spoon I use to measure it always grabs the humidity from the air and gets all brown and sticky. First world problems I know.
 
blake9999

blake9999

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A 230 gram sample should get a few plants through an entire grow. You can use it as a side-by-side if you want to. Chances are that if you do you will be changing nutes.
 
OldMedUser

OldMedUser

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Weed-noob said:
I always been a ml/gal kind of guy and I’m sick and tired of nutrient burn/nutrient dificiency/nutrient lockout/fucking nutrient problem etc...

I’m getting a TDS meter, BUT!!!........ My question is...........

How in the fuck do you divide the 3 part nutrient to the ppm suggested reflecting the week/stage of growth you’re at!

You could divide the three part nutrients equally BUT!!! That wouldn’t be good due the ambundance of N in bloom OR ambundance of K in veg...

Can an expert shed some light to this? Thanks guys
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Not sure how you are growing but with soil/soilless I use all three parts equally until the plants have a couple good sets of true leaves going then change to a 3-2-1 ratio of GMB. At first I'll use 1-1.5ml/L then boost that up to 2-3ml/L depending on how fast they are growing and what kind of light they are under. When under fluoros they get a lot less feed as they aren't getting as much energy from the lights as they do under a 400W MH. I've never used the full 4ml/L as it says to do on the bottles of nutes as that leads to nute burn for sure. With my low RH I need to feed less to prevent burn as well as the plants go thru a lot more water thus more nutes get sucked up with it.

With DWC I mix at the same ratios but check my ppm. Using 1ml/L of all 3 it comes out to almost 300ppm and after adding 20ml of CalMag to the 30L of water in the tub it came out around 320 which is about what I like to start clones off at. I'll add more nutes to boost the ppm as they get bigger and don't bother changing nutes until after the stretch. Then I go with the Lucas Formula. No Grow, just Micro and Bloom at a 1:2 ratio. I never look at the nute charts as they are designed to make you waste your nutes and make them richer by having to buy more sooner. There is no reason to change every week especially when the plants are small.

I use pH Perfect 3-part with RO water so minerals in tap water won't mess with my nutes and cause lockouts etc. Worked pretty good the last 16 years. :)

:peace:
 
Dynamo626

Dynamo626

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most 3 part lines have a schedule they tell you how much of each and at what stages. * start at half dose with new nutrients and move up from there. keep good notes and within a couple cycles you will have dialed it in for your area. If you have a tds meter with some math you can break down the nutrient and reach a greater level of customization. Here is a break down of emerald harvest cali pro line i used on a coco grow 6 months ago.
Grow A 156 ppm/tsp
nitrogen 57 ppm
calcium 38 ppm
boron 5 ppm
cobalt 1 ppm
copper 1 ppm
iron 19 ppm
manganese 8 ppm
molybdenum 19 ppm
zink 8 ppm


Grow B 193 ppm/tsp
nitrogen 18 ppm
phosphate 74 ppm
potassium 110 ppm
magnesium 18 ppm
sulfur 9 ppm


Bloom A 144 ppm/tsp
nitrogen 52 ppm
potassium 52 ppm
calcium 35 ppm
iron 2 ppm
sodium 2 ppm
boron, copper, cobalt, manganese, molybdenum, and zink all trace and together add up to 1 ppm



Bloom B 230 ppm/tsp
nitrogen 18 ppm
phosphate 74 ppm
potassium 110 ppm
magnesium 18 ppm
sulfer 9 ppm



Cal/Mag 238 ppm/tsp
nitrogen 87 ppm
calcium 129 ppm
magnesium 22 ppm



Sturdy Stalk 88 ppm/tsp
potassium 88 ppm
the bottle is 11% by weight silica which dosnt register in ppm silica also acts as a ph up base water started at 8.1 gh added silica ph jumped to 9.8 after 4 hours the ph was 9.4
 
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