1st Grow - Hubbabubbasmelloscope in DWC & Water Farm

cjsbabygirl313

cjsbabygirl313

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Morning all! Ok, here are today’s pics and the readings from my brand new and calibrated ph and ppm testers from Blue Lab. The bigger leaves on my first girl look like they have rust on them :-( Calmag deficiency? I’m only using 1/4 strength calmag - should I up THAT nutrient to 1/2 strength maybe?

HBSS #1 ... ph: 6.3 ... ppm: 470 ... Water temp: 68
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HBSS #1 ... ph: 7.2 ... ppm: 710 ... Water temp: 68
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Now, I know that the ph and ppms are up higher than they should be. Since the water level has dropped some (likely due to evaporation more than anything), do I add distilled water to bring that ppm level DOWN and then re-check the ph and adjust if necessary?

This is why I was considering switching out the waters in both this weekend - especially now that I have these awesome new pens! I’m not worried about “throwing away” nutes that are in water already - especially if that water isn’t doing my babies any good!
 
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Budley Doright

Budley Doright

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cjsbabygirl313 said:
Morning all! Ok, here are today’s pics and the readings from my brand new and calibrated ph and ppm testers from Blue Lab. The bigger leaves on my first girl look like they have rust on them :-(

HBSS #1 ... ph: 6.3 ... ppm: 470 ... Water temp: 68
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HBSS #1 ... ph: 7.2 ... ppm: 710 ... Water temp: 68
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Now, I know that the ph and ppms are up higher than they should be. Since the water level has dropped some (likely due to evaporation more than anything), do I add distilled water to bring that ppm level DOWN and then re-check the ph and adjust if necessary?

This is why I was considering switching out the waters in both this weekend - especially now that I have these awesome new pens! I’m not worried about “throwing away” nutes that are in water already - especially if that water isn’t doing my babies any good!
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There is nothing wrong with changing water on a schedule, some do, some don’t. There are good and bad for both methods IMO. I change out and very rarely add back just because I have things dialed in to add exact same amount every time and it’s quick and easy for me. There are many variables like nutes, water, room make up, do what works for you. I use my res water, what little is left for house plants and clones lol. I spend about $50 on nutes for the whole year so that’s not a concern. I get a very unstable res if I leave it to long or add back but again that could be water/nutes. I did spend a bit of time finding the nutrient that offered me stability and price. IMO you are border line getting to warm (res) so hopefully you are giving enough DO. Roots should be out by now, not lots, but yes you should be seeing them I would think.
 
cjsbabygirl313

cjsbabygirl313

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DO?? Sorry, that’s a term I haven’t learned yet. Enlighten me please!

As for the little one at the bottom, the drip ring is only being turned on 2x per day and only for about 15 mins each. And it might be hard to tell from the pics, but she actually IS growing *lol*.
 
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max420thc

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cjsbabygirl313 said:
I know ... quality! Its one of the reasons I went with the Blue Lab pens - really good reviews all around and here too. No point in skimping on the thing that will help me keep my babies happy!
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Blue labs is the best one to get. Both pH pen and ppm truncheon meters . If not blue labs you will have to replace them. They make tip cleaner for the pH pen. I recommend you get it also
 
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max420thc

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At this stage in these sprouts life they shouldn't need hardly and food and can be easy to burn up if you are not careful .
The rapid rooters change from dark brown to light brown when the need a little water.
The root structure of the one baby in the hydro farm probable hasn't spread out under Neath the drip ring yet.
When the do it should shoot out.
Until the roots spread out I would make sure to hand water the plug a little to keep them going.
Go real easy on nutes at this stage.
Usually water is enough at this stage untill they are a few inches tall.
If you have some bennificial bacteria and drop it into the rapid rooters plug will turbo charge the root system and make the roots take off faster .
I know you probably have a little in the water already.
I would take a little syringe and put a few drops concentrated straight into the plug and watch them explode.
 
cjsbabygirl313

cjsbabygirl313

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max420thc said:
At this stage in these sprouts life they shouldn't need hardly and food and can be easy to burn up if you are not careful .
The rapid rooters change from dark brown to light brown when the need a little water.
The root structure of the one baby in the hydro farm probable hasn't spread out under Neath the drip ring yet.
When the do it should shoot out.
Until the roots spread out I would make sure to hand water the plug a little to keep them going.
Go real easy on nutes at this stage.
Usually water is enough at this stage untill they are a few inches tall.
If you have some bennificial bacteria and drop it into the rapid rooters plug will turbo charge the root system and make the roots take off faster .
I know you probably have a little in the water already.
I would take a little syringe and put a few drops concentrated straight into the plug and watch them explode.
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Yup ... I know to go easy on the nutes ... my first post explained that I was using 1/4 strength and using it only because I’m using distilled water :-)
 
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max420thc

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Do not worry about the rust looking spots on the leaves at this point, it happens for some reason when they drop and hit the growing media, it will stop once it gets a little legs under them,
I would think to feed them if you want to just a ml or two a gallon of Cal mag would be plenty. Cal mag has a N rating or around one , that's all she needs, just a we little bit.
Do you see the one baby Browning a little bit in the center?
It's because the soup is to hot . Or the light is to strong.
I am out of town and I know you do not know my but I've been around several of the fellas here for around a decade .
I will not tell you something that is wrong and if I do not know I will tell you I do not know and then I will find the answer.
 
cjsbabygirl313

cjsbabygirl313

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Yeah, I’m thinkingmof doing a full reservoir change for both this weekend. I *think* I have the correct order and timing to make aure the water is stable before I put it *back* in the two buckets (anyone correct me if I’m wong please):
  • Put 6 gallons distilled water in a large enough container (4 for the DWC and 2 for the Water Farm)
  • Add appropriate CalMag and let sit for 15 mins
  • Add appropriate Flora Micro and let sit for 15 mins
  • Add appropriate Flora Grow and let sit for 15 mins
  • Add appropriate Flora Bloom and let sit for 24 hours
  • Adjust ph as necessay
I’m thinking of doing it this way so I know the EXACT same solution is going into each. Do I need to aerate the water with an airstone at any point in the proceedings though?
 
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Budley Doright

Budley Doright

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cjsbabygirl313 said:
DO?? Sorry, that’s a term I haven’t learned yet. Enlighten me please!

As for the little one at the bottom, the drip ring is only being turned on 2x per day and only for about 15 mins each. And it might be hard to tell from the pics, but she actually IS growing *lol*.
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Dissolved oxygen but at this point it shouldn’t be an issue, and yup maybe pics, it looked like the middle new growth was brown and that is a sign she is about to die, hopefully not. Brown spots on new plants is not normal and a sign of issues, I know as I get them on occasion, just saying lol.
 
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