A question on completely reworking my light schedule for planting outside

Wolfsnare4

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Hey guys, first post here. I've scoured the forums for years but haven't actually made an account until now.

I have two tents running, both in veg. I started the first plants on November first, so I've been vegging the oldest ones for almost 4 months now. Needless to say, they're bushy af and I'm anxiously anticipating spring as I rapidly run out of space. I have lst'd and defoliated often to keep these plants short thick and bushy. It's a lot of work, but they're all healthy and thriving females. I have four of my ladies in 15 gallon pots, littered with perlite, while the rest are in 7 gallons and a few in 5 gals, All fabric pots.
Anyways, I am soon beginning process of cutting a nice amount of clones from my 23 strains and have a massive outdoor year. I hand picked large producing, mould resistant strains with high thc content. Ranging from pure indicas to exotic sativas that will surely be trees by fall. I plan to keep vegging and put them outside in 300 gallon smart pots or possibly right in the prepared soil, on may 24 long weekend.

My question has to do with light schedules. I have had my tents on 18/6 and I know I have to match them up to 15/9 very patiently by May when I put them outside. Problem is, to save money on my 2200watts of metal halide all winter, I've set my off time for 11am - 5pm, the winter peak electricity hours.
That being said, over the next few months I need to change my light schedule entirely to turn on at 6 am and go off at 9pm, which are the dawn and dusk times predicted for may 24 weekend this year. Question is, how do I do this with the minimum amount of stress to my ladies?
I considered just leaving the light on longer than normal until 6 am rolled around, then set it to turn off again at 12 noon? Then gradually (15 - 30 mins a week?) extend the dark period until I reach 15/9? Which would be my desired 6am sunrise and 9pm sunset? I'd love to keep these bitches vegging, no hiccups, til they're like 9 - 10 month old behemoths.

Suggestions?

Cheers guys!
 

torontoke

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I would leave the light on til the new lights off time. An extended light period won’t cause as much shock as an extended dark period.
Either way since it only has to happen once I don’t think the stress will be to severe

Good luck with those monster
 

Wolfsnare4

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I would leave the light on til the new lights off time. An extended light period won’t cause as much shock as an extended dark period.
Either way since it only has to happen once I don’t think the stress will be to severe

Good luck with those monster
Thanks man! I could probably get away with just turning my light off a few hours early realistically eh? 6am instead of the normal 11 am? For some reason I was thinking a shorter light period would trigger flower, would it?
 

torontoke

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Its actually the longer dark period that triggers the flower process imo
But again if it’s only happening the one time I doubt either way causes that much stress
 

jarvild

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Basically your next round of cuttings should be started at the lighting schedule you plan to put them out in. As far as your established plants on the 18/6 schedule, they will probably go to flower when you put them out.
Your cuttings will have almost 3 months of vegging, more than enough time to get a respectable yield out of them.
 

roony

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I'm also curious about this I have the same issue sorry to post with no helpful info

lol phone just updated page just saw the other msges
 

Wolfsnare4

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If I slowly lower my light time by 15 - 30 minutes a week will I be able to kee them in veg when I put them out? i don't want these things flowering then reverting to veg after a few weeks of being outdoors. I'd sooner flower the mothers inside and go ham with clones outdoors
 

jarvild

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If I slowly lower my light time by 15 - 30 minutes a week will I be able to kee them in veg when I put them out? i don't want these things flowering then reverting to veg after a few weeks of being outdoors. I'd sooner flower the mothers inside and go ham with clones outdoors
That's probably your best bet. I'm in that process now of taking cuttings for outdoors, got a 100 done so far now I need another 150 or so more.
 

Wolfsnare4

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That's probably your best bet. I'm in that process now of taking cuttings for outdoors, got a 100 done so far now I need another 150 or so more.
I recommend using an oxycloner they're a few hundred on Amazon and have a water pump, air pump and four airstone pads in a plastic, 8 inch deep container. I put up to 4 per collar for 360 clones at a time per cloner. About a week in and everything is either beginning to root or already growing secondary ones. I had terrible luck in rockwool but I didn't shake cubes out enough and only got 34/144 lol :(
 

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jarvild

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I recommend using an oxycloner they're a few hundred on Amazon and have a water pump, air pump and four airstone pads in a plastic, 8 inch deep container. I put up to 4 per collar for 360 clones at a time per cloner. About a week in and everything is either beginning to root or already growing secondary ones. I had terrible luck in rockwool but I didn't shake cubes out enough and only got 34/144 lol :(
Thanks, but i have a couple of aero cloners I don't even use anymore. I use 3 ounce dixie cups filled with coco coir so I can get 24 cuttings per 10x20 domes.
 

Wolfsnare4

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Yeah I have a $300 turbo cloner that only has 24 spaces. It works horribly compared to the $200 oxycloner with 80 clone sites. Hydroponics seems to do the trick better than aeroponics.
 

too larry

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OP, your best bet is to go extra time with lights on to get to your new lights off time. {as stated above, length of dark is what triggers flowering} Once you have the right lights off time, slowly come down from 18 to 15 hours. If you do it now, you have 81 days to trim 10800 seconds. That is 133 1/3 seconds {2.2222222 minutes} per day. Or 15 1/2 minutes per week, which is how often most folks adjust their light schedule.

There is no need to veg so long. I have found smaller younger plants have far fewer problems.
 

Wolfsnare4

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My friend told me to keep em on for 24 hrs to make sure they don't flower. So frustrating. My timer is an asshole. Is this good advice? Should I keep lights on for a day or two? Then go 11:45pm lights out and 6am lights on? And slowly bring the lights out time down to 9 pm like suggested? To mimic may patterns?
 
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