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SCROG: many plants vs few plants - pros/cons

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kdt15

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If you can scrog a plant pretty wide, is there ever any advantage of haivng more plants, with each not as wide, in 1 same area? more plants = more work = more cost, less plants = less work = less cost
 
NanoGadget

NanoGadget

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Scrog is all about maximizing the output of each plant. It is very often done to compensate for strict limits on plant count. That being said, you could definitely run, for example, 2 or 3 plants in a 3x3 ft scrog rather than 1. But too much beyond that and you aren't really even scogging any more. You're just growing a bunch of plants and happen to have a trellis up. It is the extensive training across a horizontal screen to create tops from secondary shoots that defines the technique. So if plant count is of no concern to you legally, then yes there is indeed an advantage to running SOG vs SCROG. The super quick veg times in a SOG setup means that you will cut significant time off of each run.
 
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kdt15

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NanoGadget said:
Scrog is all about maximizing the output of each plant. It is very often done to compensate for strict limits on plant count. That being said, you could definitely run, for example, 2 or 3 plants in a 3x3 ft scrog rather than 1. But too much beyond that and you aren't really even scogging any more. You're just growing a bunch of plants and happen to have a trellis up. It is the extensive training across a horizontal screen to create tops from secondary shoots that defines the technique. So if plant count is of no concern to you legally, then yes there is indeed an advantage to running SOG vs SCROG. The super quick veg times in a SOG setup means that you will cut significant time off of each run.
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ok so jam packing more than 2-3 plants in a 3x3 (seems to be 3-4.5sqft per plant) will end up just being a fake scrog and more like a sog, and the benefit of such is that it gains the SOG's benefits of fast veg times?
 
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kdt15

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NanoGadget said:
Scrog is all about maximizing the output of each plant. It is very often done to compensate for strict limits on plant count. That being said, you could definitely run, for example, 2 or 3 plants in a 3x3 ft scrog rather than 1. But too much beyond that and you aren't really even scogging any more. You're just growing a bunch of plants and happen to have a trellis up. It is the extensive training across a horizontal screen to create tops from secondary shoots that defines the technique. So if plant count is of no concern to you legally, then yes there is indeed an advantage to running SOG vs SCROG. The super quick veg times in a SOG setup means that you will cut significant time off of each run.
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thanks, its always confusing to get confluicting info. can you explain why this article mentions 1 plant per 30cm screen (~1ft x 1ft)?

https://www.zamnesia.com/blog-scrog-vs-sog-which-is-right-for-you-n935
 
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kdt15

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thanks! do you decide what size screen prior to growing it or just add as you go, and it comes out in a circle right? so the edges of the square screen / corners are a littlle bare? wodnering how that can be maximized
 
NrthrnMichigan

NrthrnMichigan

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kdt15 said:
thanks! do you decide what size screen prior to growing it or just add as you go, and it comes out in a circle right? so the edges of the square screen / corners are a littlle bare? wodnering how that can be maximized
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Bend, break, twist, train, crop, coax etc etc...w/time & patience. Current attempt to fill every square of that 4x8 net 20180224_211309.jpg 20180302_133133_resized.jpg 1 plant scrog a couple years ago 20160817_224900.jpg
 
NanoGadget

NanoGadget

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kdt15 said:
thanks! do you decide what size screen prior to growing it or just add as you go, and it comes out in a circle right? so the edges of the square screen / corners are a littlle bare? wodnering how that can be maximized
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If you're training correctly the canopy will be whatever shape the net is. Just keep tucking and weaving til the whole screen is full.
 
Cold$moke

Cold$moke

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Ha ha "fake scrog"


When did scrogging have a set of rules?

In my opinion scrogging maximizes space whether or not you run one plant or more
Is up to you or your plant count.

Edit to add i guess i should say it helps evenly disperses growth in turn maxxes space

But you are correct more plants equals less veg equals faster returns :)

As long as it has a net that maxes out your space its a scrog in my book :)

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I got a scrog if it is a "real scrog" on the left ;)
 
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NanoGadget

NanoGadget

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Cold$moke said:
I like to grow em big and bushy then i just squish my net on them and pull the tips out where i want.

Im too impatient to weave for 4 weeks anymore :)
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That's what I did this run. Had some nasty lockout that messed her up pretty decent for 10 days or so and I lost a lot of training time. Just topped twice and jammed the net down and did some tucking. Lol. Sometimes you gotta adapt.
 
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