pitbulls

Biggravy22

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Ok, he doesn't force it. You allow it. It is still a dominant behavior. This is not a criticism, it is an observation. Hazel wants to be petted, and if you give in when you're not ready, next thing you know the dog is pushing you around. She's not usually aggressive towards people, but it is still dominating behavior. It is what it is.

I am Alpha female (bitch if you will). I dictate all terms of engagement or disengagement. I dictate who eats where and when, who gets attention and who doesn't. With a dog like Hazel it MUST be this way or it would be very easy to end up with a dog that knocks people over, doesn't mind commands, or worse.

Wanna know what breed has bitten me many, many times? (And it's the ONLY breed I've been bitten by) Chihuahuas.


Oh no...I'll take all the advice I can. So if you wanna throw some knowledge my way Im all for it. I just don't want to get to the point where moose feels like he's entitled to hop up on my lap whenever he pleases. He listens very well...he just get's in his modes (usually when we're tottally ignoring him) where he's like "Hey, what about me?"
 

Biggravy22

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Oh and moose is a big submissive urinator. I've tried walking away to keep him from getting overly excited, but he just wont. I know it's not a bad thing, but i'd like the boy to stop pissin everytime we walk in the door.
 

BreatheSmoke

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[quote="SICC";1411872]i didnt waste my time to read it after the first page, idk think you kno whats this is about, read fdds first post...idiot :lol:[/quote]

and you don't wanna 'waste your time' reading the thread.. Then can I ask why you're on a forum if your time is so precious? K I'm done...
 

"SICC"

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well you you did read it you would kno that fdd started off with the pitbulls used for rep and what not, and THEN ppl started talkin about pits and the sterotypes people have for them, its funny how poeple always try to argue and act like there shit dont stink
 

Seamaiden

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Oh no...I'll take all the advice I can. So if you wanna throw some knowledge my way Im all for it. I just don't want to get to the point where moose feels like he's entitled to hop up on my lap whenever he pleases. He listens very well...he just get's in his modes (usually when we're tottally ignoring him) where he's like "Hey, what about me?"
BAM! You just hit it! Have you ever watched Cesar Milan or.. Victoria Stillwell I think her name is. Her show is It's Me or the Dog, and it's pretty good (better for people who prefer to be more lowkey with how they approach behavior modification). They have different approaches to handling very similar problems, and both read dogs very well.

I, being raised similarly to Cesar, use the "ttsschhhtt!!" sound, always have. I also have The Hairy Eye, graced upon me by my grandmother and mother. I am able to use my body language and position to indicate my dominance, and it's a very fine set of the head, shoulders, and overall stance.

This has all taken me years to learn. Years working with other animals, too. I learned the most working with horses (we bred and trained Arabs when I was younger). That's when I really started to learn about body communication with animals consciously, before it was just kind of an automatic thing. That makes it hard to describe in words without showing you, if that makes sense. I wish I could better describe it in words.

So, you start with the situation where the unwanted behavior occurrs. For Moose it's when you're not paying attention to him, right? Then what happens?
 

Seamaiden

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Oh and moose is a big submissive urinator. I've tried walking away to keep him from getting overly excited, but he just wont. I know it's not a bad thing, but i'd like the boy to stop pissin everytime we walk in the door.
So he does this upon your return? You said you crate him, yes? Does he get very anxious when you and/or your wife leave?
 

BreatheSmoke

New Member
[quote="SICC";1411940]well you you did read it you would kno that fdd started off with the pitbulls used for rep and what not, and THEN ppl started talkin about pits and the sterotypes people have for them, its funny how poeple always try to argue and act like there shit dont stink[/quote]


:sleep: My shit may stink ... But it stinks much better than yours!

muhahaha

Calm down man... obviously I read it.. I was the first person to reply...
 

fdd2blk

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you guys kill me. "my dog is not dangerous". yet i hear of domination, crating, pissing everywhere. i can't think of anything i've ever scolded my cat on. cats come already knowing. dogs are pretty dumb if they have to be dominated to be maintainable. so basically you own this animals being? you control who it can and can't be? it's not allowed freewill? and keeping a serval is mean?
 

Biggravy22

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BAM! You just hit it! Have you ever watched Cesar Milan or.. Victoria Stillwell I think her name is. Her show is It's Me or the Dog, and it's pretty good (better for people who prefer to be more lowkey with how they approach behavior modification). They have different approaches to handling very similar problems, and both read dogs very well.

I, being raised similarly to Cesar, use the "ttsschhhtt!!" sound, always have. I also have The Hairy Eye, graced upon me by my grandmother and mother. I am able to use my body language and position to indicate my dominance, and it's a very fine set of the head, shoulders, and overall stance.

This has all taken me years to learn. Years working with other animals, too. I learned the most working with horses (we bred and trained Arabs when I was younger). That's when I really started to learn about body communication with animals consciously, before it was just kind of an automatic thing. That makes it hard to describe in words without showing you, if that makes sense. I wish I could better describe it in words.

So, you start with the situation where the unwanted behavior occurrs. For Moose it's when you're not paying attention to him, right? Then what happens?
Yeah we'll be having our post work smoke...watching television, talking about our days, and he'll hop up give us paw, and want to be petted.
 

mastakoosh

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the pic on the left, in thumbnail size, looks like a monkey. then i clicked. those aren't monkey eyes. :shock:
haha i see it too, those monkey eyes aint gonna be there much longer. i just feel guilty a little bit. i at least would like him to have fun once before they go.:fire:
 

BreatheSmoke

New Member
I don't believe in treating dogs as if you're their drill sergeant or some shit.. Cesar Milan is a smart guy but I think he gets into the whole submissive/dominant thing too much.. It's necessary to let your dogs know who's boss.. But you can't rob them of their personalities either...
 

Biggravy22

Well-Known Member
So he does this upon your return? You said you crate him, yes? Does he get very anxious when you and/or your wife leave?

No. He's very good when we leave. He stands there and watches us go. No barking, no crying...nothing. When we walk in he get's excited and hops up on us. I tell him off and he goes down, but when he goes down he get's probably an inch off the floor, then you hear the stream hit. But what's funny I think his previous owner was VERY strict to him, almost abusive because if we yell at him he crates himself. He'll walk into his crate and lay down.
 

Seamaiden

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Yeah we'll be having our post work smoke...watching television, talking about our days, and he'll hop up give us paw, and want to be petted.
Gotta address that peeing thing first I think. That's a dog that's a bit fearful and needs to know that you will be back. He's a rescue, right?
 

BreatheSmoke

New Member
[quote="SICC";1411984]lol i kno, but it seem everything i reply to some one tries to argure with me, my bad[/quote]


lol .. It's all good. I shouldn't have said anything.... You had a right to say what you wanted.
 
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