How long you think we got?

[Spitzered]

Ahh religion in the mix. Complicates things as usual.

My contention is that people that receive govt living subsidies vote for democrats. Not just blacks, plenty of whites and other ethnic groups receive them to.

Corporations that receive business subsidies support/vote for which ever party that supports them. And often they support both to hedge their bets. Not to mention unions, I know plenty of teachers that vote Dem on the belief this will mean larger salaries. Hope springs eternal I guess, they all believed Clinton would do it.

I went to your link, pretty cool, but I started to see images in the charts. Hmmm.

There is a shift from one side to the other by those who can be called moderates, mostly because they are tired of the Party in power. In other words they flip/flop?

But hard core Dem's always vote Dem, and the same for hard core Republicans.

 

[Bongulator]

The more educated you are, the more likely you are to vote Democrat too. Maybe that's why Republicans don't have much of an education-oriented focus -- it'd cost them votes if too many people got educated.

 

[misshestermoffitt]

Shit I thought I clicked on the VP debate thread...........

 

[cleatis]

As far as how long this Republic has to endure before it collapses under the weight of its bureaucracy or states start seceding.

I give it 50 - 100 years, maybe as little as 25. People are getting pissed off, and seeking knowledge to determine what really is good for this nation, and what is not good for this nation.

I think you hit the nail with people getting pissed off. In the america I always knew money was the straight up bottom line. Keep people in enough money to buy a subdivision house, a nissan, a big screen and a few bills and no one asked any questions, no one took any action or even observed much of anything - in short, no one gave a ten foot flying fuck what the government did so long as they had some money in their pocket. Now people have that less and less and they want to know why.

I don't want to see what's down the pike any more than any of us, but as a country, we had it coming. Too bad it's just too late now that we start to pay attention.

 

[o8supersamxix]

?? hmmm ??????????

 

[misshestermoffitt]

Exactly right, as long as everyone can keep up with the neighbors they are ok with the way things are but now that the bottom has fallen out people are finally figuring out that they should be pissed off.

I think you hit the nail with people getting pissed off. In the america I always knew money was the straight up bottom line. Keep people in enough money to buy a subdivision house, a nissan, a big screen and a few bills and no one asked any questions, no one took any action or even observed much of anything - in short, no one gave a ten foot flying fuck what the government did so long as they had some money in their pocket. Now people have that less and less and they want to know why.

I don't want to see what's down the pike any more than any of us, but as a country, we had it coming. Too bad it's just too late now that we start to pay attention.

 

[Spitzered]

The more educated you are, the more likely you are to vote Democrat too. Maybe that's why Republicans don't have much of an education-oriented focus -- it'd cost them votes if too many people got educated.

Higher education doesn't necessarily equivilate to higher intelligence.

When I went to grade school pro liberal views started about 5th grade. It was pretty easy to tell the teachers political views. Then in college it was a full court press, with opposing views receiving borderline scorn.

I was taking my son to school one day, 3rd grade. He asked me who I was voting for Clinton or Bush. OMG 3rd grade, I told him I hadn't decided yet, he said he would vote for Clinton because his teacher said if Clinton gets elected teachers will make more money. And that is a true story.

But then again I have an uncle who was a tenured professor at the Univ of Idaho. He had to sign a contract stating his personal political views would not expressed nor used to sway students.

So you may be correct about more educated becoming liberals but the reasons why may be debatable.

 

[ccodiane]

The more educated you are, the more likely you are to vote Democrat too. Maybe that's why Republicans don't have much of an education-oriented focus -- it'd cost them votes if too many people got educated.

 

[Doctor Pot]

Higher education doesn't necessarily equivilate to higher intelligence.

You mean "equate"?

Perhaps, but it's the only way we have to measure intelligence of broad demographic groups. And while education may not equate to higher intelligence, it does correlate better than any other statistic that might be available to the groups doing the polls.

 

[ccodiane]

You mean "equate"?

Perhaps, but it's the only way we have to measure intelligence of broad demographic groups. And while education may not equate to higher intelligence, it does correlate better than any other statistic that might be available to the groups doing the polls.

If you listen to Limbaugh or Levin, you're a stinkin genius. True.