Trasplanted DWC to Coco/Perlite on week 4 (Help needed) *Daily update

[Roger A. Shrubber]

i'm still having trouble deciding if its your lights or if its root rot. or both. as long as there's some healthy growth on a plant, it'll recover, but it takes a little time. keep up with the h202, but maybe not quite as strong, and move your lights a little farther away...i'm sure one of those things will help, just not sure which

 

[AngryMexican]

i'm still having trouble deciding if its your lights or if its root rot. or both. as long as there's some healthy growth on a plant, it'll recover, but it takes a little time. keep up with the h202, but maybe not quite as strong, and move your lights a little farther away...i'm sure one of those things will help, just not sure which

Lamps are already 40 inches... So it must be root rot still going on =(
When I transplanted, I did not cut the roots I just kept them in strong H202 for an hour, washed them well with shower, and just stack them in the coco, the whole root ball...

 

[Roger A. Shrubber]

then i'd keep up with the h2o2, can't think of anything else that causes those synptoms

 

[Roger A. Shrubber]

@Dr. Who is about the best diagnostician on here that i've found, if he has time to take a look, hopefully he can pin point something, i'm about out of ideas, if its pythium, the h202 ought to have made a big dent in it by now

 

[AngryMexican]

@Dr. Who is about the best diagnostician on here that i've found, if he has time to take a look, hopefully he can pin point something, i'm about out of ideas, if its pythium, the h202 ought to have made a big dent in it by now

If it is pythium, when do I know that it is over? Should I continue watering with h2o2 even it is over, or should I quit adding it?

 

[Roger A. Shrubber]

the damaged leaves won't recover, but the damage will stop occurring, and new growth will come in nice and healthy.
this may sound a little silly, but i try to catch the first of the run off in a cup and smell it if i'm suspicious of root rot. it usually smells crappy, literally, if there's a problem.
i use it about every third time i water, just to make sure nothing gets started. 3 ml per gallon of 29%.

 

[AngryMexican]

the damaged leaves won't recover, but the damage will stop occurring, and new growth will come in nice and healthy.
this may sound a little silly, but i try to catch the first of the run off in a cup and smell it if i'm suspicious of root rot. it usually smells crappy, literally, if there's a problem.
i use it about every third time i water, just to make sure nothing gets started. 3 ml per gallon of 29%.

Tnx man, I'll definitely try this tomorrow!!!
What about enzymes? As I understood h2o2 does kill all benef's too... Do you use them at all?

 

[Roger A. Shrubber]

only outside in the garden. i run hempy buckets, and trying to run benes in hempies just makes a mess. if i was growing in soil i'd definitely use them.

 

[AngryMexican]

only outside in the garden. i run hempy buckets, and trying to run benes in hempies just makes a mess. if i was growing in soil i'd definitely use them.

I think I'll forget about overpriced voodooz and zymes for a while

 

[AngryMexican]

 

[Dr. Who]

Got your call @Roger A. Shrubber ....Thanks....

So I take a look at those pics to start..

Right off the bat I'll say the micro problems stand out big time! Differing issues in almost all plants....

Macro, Micro, pH issues abound..

Lets start here:

EXACTLY what did you feed them?
List ANY additive/supplement.
How much?
How often?
Res temps?

What do you feed now?

They look beyond that root rot issue...Remember that use of H2o2 in soil, will kill the micro beasties....

It would be to your advantage to re-introduce those Myco's..
Any "zyme" is basically a small set of myco's that eat the shed "skin" of the roots.....you want more then that....

Use or brew an AACT and use that..

Google that up on how....


I'll be watching this for your answer

 

[AngryMexican]

Got your call @Roger A. Shrubber ....Thanks....

So I take a look at those pics to start..

Right off the bat I'll say the micro problems stand out big time! Differing issues in almost all plants....

Macro, Micro, pH issues abound..

Lets start here:

EXACTLY what did you feed them?
List ANY additive/supplement.
How much?
How often?
Res temps?

What do you feed now?

They look beyond that root rot issue...Remember that use of H2o2 in soil, will kill the micro beasties....

It would be to your advantage to re-introduce those Myco's..
Any "zyme" is basically a small set of myco's that eat the shed "skin" of the roots.....you want more then that....

Use or brew an AACT and use that..

Google that up on how....


I'll be watching this for your answer

Thanks for jumping in Dr.Who!
I fed them with base CYCO + B1 + Ryzofluel + Hesi PowerZyme, following the feeding chart given on their site.
But I run out of them 3 days ago, so I run up into a grow store, and bought some GHE coco 2 part base nutrients, and been feeding with a regular dose 20ml of Grow and 10 ml of Bloom + 200 ml per gallon of 3% H2O2 at first day, 150 ml (H2O2 3%) per gallon second day, 100 ml per gallon the third day (today)...

About PH, 3 days ago I figured out that my cheapo chineese PH pen was broken so I have no clue what was the PH I watered with for a week or more (hopefully I did not cause any hermies by this), so I bought the old school GHE liquid tester, so the PH have been around 6 for the last 2 days...

I googled that up, sounds good, and what is also important - cheap, I'll def prepare some for flowering.

 

[Dr. Who]

AH HA! pH pen broken!

This explains the whole issue across the board! They all look to have a somewhat different problem, yet all related...pH! That is your base issue here,,,
All the blocks and locks are creating those problems...

pH all in going liquids to 5.8
USE a Ca/Mg to help buffer and too feed the Ca some....

Look to the new growth in 5-7 days for the plant to show recovery.....Damaged leaves will not recover..

 

[AngryMexican]

AH HA! pH pen broken!

This explains the whole issue across the board! They all look to have a somewhat different problem, yet all related...pH! That is your base issue here,,,
All the blocks and locks are creating those problems...

pH all in going liquids to 5.8
USE a Ca/Mg to help buffer and too feed the Ca some....

Look to the new growth in 5-7 days for the plant to show recovery.....Damaged leaves will not recover..

Thanks man! Just bought a new pen today.
Should I defoliate all the crappy leaves already?

 

[Dr. Who]

Just the dead crispy one's..
If they are all yellow, you can take those 2.
If they have green in them, they are still doing the plants work. Might not be as well as a healthy leaf but, it is contributing...

 

[AngryMexican]

Just the dead crispy one's..
If they are all yellow, you can take those 2.
If they have green in them, they are still doing the plants work. Might not be as well as a healthy leaf but, it is contributing...

Tnx, I'll trim them a bit tomorrow,

One of the nicest plants of mine has a rooting cube above the medium (I run out of space cos of the huge root ball) I do cover it with coco once a week, but always when I water it strips off...
Is that mold?

 

[Dr. Who]

Ignore that....for this run, or cover it with a black plastic or just keep light off the area...by covering it with something and tack it in place.

Plant the cubes deeper next time, that's all for that...

 

[AngryMexican]

Long time no updates cos there were only minor changes, big girls got light green on top, no idea why... Looks like an Magnesium/Iron/light burn but its def not cos I am adding extra Iron, Ca/Mg and light is 25-35 inches far...
PH been 5.8 for a week now. I LST some of them a bit
I thinking of removing bad looking plants and start to flower, what do you guys think of that?
Getting my auto watering ready







Removed some crispy parts, basically topped 3-5 main colas on two of these




These plants looking worse

 

[AngryMexican]

I foliar fed with b vitamin yesterday, no positive results seen, bad plants looking worse, best of plants not showing positive signs either...
I am in panic that "healthy" looking plants will go bad and I end up with 0 plants in a couple weeks...

Here are todays photos...













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I am thinking of killing because they are getting just worse...

 

[AngryMexican]

I did not buffer coco coir before transplanting... And the coir was pretty cheap one... That must be the problem (sodium toxicity?)... How I could align the situation?