ditching hps for quantum lights
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This kit will easily replace any 1000 Watt HID using only 620 Watts of power producing a massive 1450 PPF total output! To put this in perspective, a single ended 1000 watt produces around 1250 PPF total. The HLG-600H produces 16% more light than the SE1000 watt with 38% less power! The kit uses 4 high efficiency Quantum Boards (QB-28
driven by a HLG-600H-54B and comes pre-assembled and tested (recommended) or ready to assemble.
driven by a HLG-600H-54B and comes pre-assembled and tested (recommended) or ready to assemble.
a mongo frog
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You should buy 1. If it does a gram per watt and no bulb changes ever its a steal.
dbkick
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I just bought an hlg600, have yet to hang it. Curious, if the hlg 600 will beat a 1kw se by 16 percent why not just claim it has 6 percent on any de since a de has 10 percent on an se?This kit will easily replace any 1000 Watt HID using only 620 Watts of power producing a massive 1450 PPF total output! To put this in perspective, a single ended 1000 watt produces around 1250 PPF total. The HLG-600H produces 16% more light than the SE1000 watt with 38% less power! The kit uses 4 high efficiency Quantum Boards (QB-28
well i wont be buying the kit as i already have boards but im debating between using the 480 vs 600 watt drivers basically i have a pretty packed grow space 8x8 and ive already got a production model hlg 550 running along with dual 1k hps bulbs on one hand it seems smart to get the 600w drivers over the 480 but on the other hand i dont wanna over do it with the light either as my goal is to save power
a mongo frog
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Im curious also. I bought 2 Monday morning.
a mongo frog
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Thats pretty good news actually. I was worried these boards ran cool. I was debating getting a co2 burner to help instead of bottled injection system.
NoWaistedSpace
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There has been already a few side by side done but lets be realistic.. in 10 yrs from now we will still have the same debate because its almost impossible to do 2 grow exactly the same way.. and then compare results.. so unless you prove me there is a significant difference between HLG-550 and a 1000w HPS The total Lumen output is about the same keeping in mind that the hps is 360 degrees and loosing light power off the reflection
I just ran an experiment with a pc of sanded, #400-#1000 grit, Polished, Black Emery Polish, 6"x36" Aluminum plate.
I laid it in the direct sun(2PM). The PAR meter said the Sun was at around 2100 PAR.
Next, I focused the meter at the coinciding angle for maximum reflection.
The meter read a little over 2000 PAR. That is almost 99% reflection.
Added a 54mm Glass Lens and measured and increased PAR to right at 2300 PAR
I have not done a "White" surface this way.
My conclusion:
With DIY, adding a little "elbow" grease to your Al reflectors and "Heat Sinks" will increase your PPFD output . Remember, Aluminum is a "soft" metal, and is easily scratched.
I just ran an experiment with a pc of sanded, #400-#1000 grit, Polished, Black Emery Polish, 6"x36" Aluminum plate.
I laid it in the direct sun(2PM). The PAR meter said the Sun was at around 2100 PAR.
Next, I focused the meter at the coinciding angle for maximum reflection.
The meter read a little over 2000 PAR. That is almost 99% reflection.
Added a 54mm Glass Lens and measured and increased PAR to right at 2300 PAR
I have not done a "White" surface this way.
My conclusion:
With DIY, adding a little "elbow" grease to your Al reflectors and "Heat Sinks" will increase your PPFD output . Remember, Aluminum is a "soft" metal, and is easily scratched.
yeah i dont have 1500 watts over the 4x8 so it is a bit different but yeah i have more area and less watts for sure, i ended up going with 4 240 driver's cause i could not get the same kinda deal as i would with the 480w one and didnt really think its the best idea to go with the 600w time will tell im thinking that i can just add more boards if the need be but id imagine i wont do half bad
Lola Grows
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It's just my opinion but it seems as though you've never used the hlg light yet you're bashing it as if it's failed you. I've seen countless journals that prove the 3000k spectrum excels in veg and flower. If it's not your cup of tea that's cool but what's not cool is you coming on here trying to slander a respected company and their products because you don't prefer or can't afford them. You need to stop because I doubt you've ever even seen one in person.All of those reasons are why HLG has satisfied customers. LED truly does bring so many amazing things to the table. However, there is no excuse to base your entire marketing strategy off of a blatant lie. The HLG-550 is not powerful enough to replace 1000w HPS. HLG knows this.
1000w EyeHortilux Super HPS with a 1000w Vivosun digital ballast in a Blockbuster reflector. Data collected with the SQ-500 quantum sensor from Apogee Instruments. Data for the HLG-550 was pulled from its product page.
The benefits LED provides can create the illusion that you're buying something somewhat as powerful as 1000w HPS. Quantum boards are overpriced for what they are. China is already copying their products and HLG-550s are a whopping 20% off at the moment.
They're probably great lights for the veg room, but if you're looking to replace 1000w HPS, I wouldn't waste time experimenting with the HLG-550.
CCCmints
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I don't own an HLG-550 and anyone who did their research wouldn't own one either. Facts are facts. I've posted a visual representation of the product's performance, using data THEY PROVIDE, and the guys that already fell for the marketing ploy are upset that they don't actually have a proper 1000w replacement. I'm sorry you purchased an overpriced item that china has already copied and is now selling for a fraction of HLG's price.
What's not cool is defending an inferior product solely because you've already purchased it. Do you see the graphs? Do you see the issues within those graphs? Do you see the HLG-550 has the same uniformity issues yet still produces 30% less light output? What is so hard to understand for you? Do you just not believe the data I collected for HPS is real? Is the visual representation using data HLG provides on their product page not sufficient for you? I'm trying to walk you through it as best I can.
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Lola Grows
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Seems like you're just bitter because you built an outdated light. Who cares about your fake data all I care about are results, which you've failed to provide. Comparisons = proof until then you're just the guy who's hating on hlg for no reason. Don't feel sorry for me, I'm happy belonging to the " cult " as you stated.
Edit: I guess that's why you're on multiple threads slandering their light too. Bitter
CCCmints
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I love how the data is so scary to you HLG cultists that all you can do is claim its fake. 30% less light output, same uniformity issues; you have a shit light. Go do the tests yourself and cry yourself to sleep over the realization that all of this data is in fact very, very real.
Seems like you're bitter because you made a stupid purchase lOl.
Lola Grows
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I'm
Are you trolling? I just told you I'm happy being in the "cult" because they've proven themselves. You on the other hand are posting your own data and drawing your own conclusions. You can't even provide a side by side grow. I did do my research and narrowed it down between hlg and timber. I purchased the 550, can't be mad because it's still in the box and totally returnable but it's not going anywhere. That light is a BEAST!!
