The Dons' Organic Garden

DonTesla

DonTesla

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Alright, organic COB LED update

Pink Jewel (see Avatar) has been cloned and is growing about 1.5-2" per day

Now sipping litres per day .. Woohoo

Was afraid she would be heavy.. Since I'm not ordering pumice til late spring (by the semi load, at last, lol ) and as you know, I kinda dislike perlite especially indoors .. So I tried rotting wood rice hulls and leaf mould .. Some crawling fresh castings..couple spikes with my food mix, bam, did an up-pot with a short cook.

Top dressed with the new 'CBD Sand' which is kicking ass! and shes now really starting to find her stride. Inoculated once and mow its just sip sip sip to the finish line. New growth is nice lighter green with that nice rich green and sheeny for the lower..

Rotting wood lines the bottom of the pot..seems thats working. I sprinkled some alfafa meal on the wood and laid a thin layer of de rocks on top of that, after I noticed the roots were getting really white and fuzzy in the DE, both in the bottoms and tops (as top dresses). Guessing they got just enough space and time to charge a bit before roots started peeping in, and that this pot will just get better and better for the next 2-3 rounds.. Which will be dedicated to clones of this strain.. She is super tasty and lingers on the pal, plus is our photography star to be, definitely needs to stick around!!
 
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The Gpa'co 5 way soil blend..m

..which is our glacial rich peat bog soil, with coco, plus the usual castings, and 2 aerations, all equal parts,

is lush and dark green almost, very lush, no shortage of nitrogen, and sipping super fast.. even with some meals cut back....


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Putting put Lots of 11 bladed leaves like this beauty here ..
 
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Had to ditch the table .. these 3 inch tall OGs (flipped as lil babies) are now 2 and 3 feet tall (which only took a few wks!!!) .. Dang light was blinding me it was so high!

But they stiiiiiiink good and can take heat.. And are gonna taste so damn good, so whatever it takes to have some water only cob 4/20 smoke in the new place right.. Cannot wait... Fack, the terps!! Hoping for that pungent ass Grapey orange super tasty super pungent (again) pheno.. Smells stupid even at the semi organic spot, organic would just be over the fricken top gooey and sticky loudness ..
 
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giglewigle

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daam dude hella noce plants bout 2 be poping soon im probly gunna get most things for my soil mix from the locel harwhare store way I see it thay have enough 2 grow every other plant but I goal is to to get a good 300 liter container pluss tje 180 liter tumbler im gunna use the tumbler for bukashi a mate is hooking me ip with some xrosses he did I cant wait man this next 2 rounds aeegunna be awsome
 
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southernguy99

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Hey Don do you re-use your soil, when the plant is done flowering do you just take out as much of the root ball as you can and re-use that pot and soil.
 
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giglewigle said:
daam dude hella noce plants bout 2 be poping soon im probly gunna get most things for my soil mix from the locel harwhare store way I see it thay have enough 2 grow every other plant but I goal is to to get a good 300 liter container pluss tje 180 liter tumbler im gunna use the tumbler for bukashi a mate is hooking me ip with some xrosses he did I cant wait man this next 2 rounds aeegunna be awsome
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Damn, im liking the sounds of that!! Youre gonna be soooo happy when you achieve that.. keep up the good goal setting man, right on.

southernguy99 said:
Hey Don do you re-use your soil, when the plant is done flowering do you just take out as much of the root ball as you can and re-use that pot and soil.
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For the no til beds, like the 45 gallon 2 x 3 ft bed on wheels, and the 25 gallons strong totes, I would leave all root balls.. even leave the stem for a couple weeks.. and just plant in different spots each time, shifting to the left or right 6 to 8 inches whenever I needed to avoid a stump.

1-2 weeks later, the stem would be loose as a goose, and pop right out with total ease, leaving the old root ball in tact as a part of the soil food web!

At the new spot, I started some 1 and 2 gallon pots, and flipped them, those will get recycled .. root balls to worm farms.. but anything over 15 gals gets used several times with no playing, and anything over 20 gal is basically set for a good 1 to 2 years or more.. and root balls stay in!
 
ShLUbY

ShLUbY

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DonTesla said:
Damn, im liking the sounds of that!! Youre gonna be soooo happy when you achieve that.. keep up the good goal setting man, right on.



For the no til beds, like the 45 gallon 2 x 3 ft bed on wheels, and the 25 gallons strong totes, I would leave all root balls.. even leave the stem for a couple weeks.. and just plant in different spots each time, shifting to the left or right 6 to 8 inches whenever I needed to avoid a stump.

1-2 weeks later, the stem would be loose as a goose, and pop right out with total ease, leaving the old root ball in tact as a part of the soil food web!

At the new spot, I started some 1 and 2 gallon pots, and flipped them, those will get recycled .. root balls to worm farms.. but anything over 15 gals gets used several times with no playing, and anything over 20 gal is basically set for a good 1 to 2 years or more.. and root balls stay in!
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i am starting to think that my 20 gals just are not big enough for no-till... considering switching to something bigger. problem is... they need to be able to fit through a 30-some inch door lol.

my dream indoor garden... individual rooms with 200-300 gallon beds that just sit there, and you veg and flower in the same room, but have like 6 rooms so you can still run perpetual crops... now that is the dream!
 
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ShLUbY said:
i am starting to think that my 20 gals just are not big enough for no-till... considering switching to something bigger. problem is... they need to be able to fit through a 30-some inch door lol.

my dream indoor garden... individual rooms with 200-300 gallon beds that just sit there, and you veg and flower in the same room, but have like 6 rooms so you can still run perpetual crops... now that is the dream!
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Yeah we were just saying that too bro, shit
.. a couple runs and good veg's in a 20 gal, and I'm tempted to re vamp too.. unless you got super wicked aeration and drainage, and not too deep. Sipping helps too, but Even the 25 gal takes some discipline to run more than 3x.. seems too small to me, just looking at them, now. We had a bunch of them hooked up to floats and it was still a maze..I took a pic for you actually cause we were shooting the shit about em.. was thinking 6 giant pots in each room would be soooo much better.. 150 gal each, instead of say 18 x 10-25 gals

The door then becomes the main issue.. although we are liking fabric pots.. problem is, once set up, the right size isn't gonna wanna move!!! But what a great asset to get established.. we would love an attached green house with recessed no tills embedded into the floor, so the topsoil and mulch levels are right flush with the pathways, with a tall crawl space under neath, so all drainage and water tanks could be below..along with storage. Love the vegging and flowering all in the same room.. it doesn't work best with a ten light flip or anything, but thats how you take advantage of massively great veg speeds!!

Oh the dream.. motivating shit!!
 
ShLUbY

ShLUbY

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You all just got me nervous as I just started 6 25 gallon DIY no till sips.....I hope I don't experience the same issues but Im doubting the inevitable at this point. I don't want to keep mixing soil:wall::wall:
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you'll get a few good runs out of it. just be prepared to dr. it up a bit for anything after that :) . i'm sure you've been following my thread.... so i may find some solutions for you lol
 
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CaptainSnap said:
You all just got me nervous as I just started 6 25 gallon DIY no till sips.....I hope I don't experience the same issues but Im doubting the inevitable at this point. I don't want to keep mixing soil:wall::wall:
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Very nice! How did you do the DIY part...

If you want to extend the life of these puppies.. could just let them breathe a bit more if you can.. I dont use perlite, but if you do, just don't top water..(set to sip already, but just confirming that) and if you can add biochar, and up the aeration to 45% or so, you should be good for a good long time.. many many rounds if you want to push it.

If you compost some, that can help a lot too. Living castings, and fluffy amended compost thats aerated, is all one would need to keep it rocking for as long as possible, just try to not compact it, is the main thing, and keep it fed, so lots of worms would be good too, maybe even a living mulch if you like!

25 gal is still 5x better than 5 gals but we are just stating how going 5x bigger than that yet can make for even LESS work, less water, less units to manage, with MORE benefits, more speed, more options, and a really nice long permanency, but you've already made a great leap and should enjoy it!
 
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I basically converted a 25 gallon plastic planter with a large saucer into the sips. Put lava rock on bottom to cover holes. Experimenting with cotton rope and poly rope for wicks. Each one has 4 wicks that run from bottom holes to center of pot and then up the center towards the top. I cut and use a circular piece of geotextile fabric (fabric pot material) on top of the lava rocks. Theres an x cut in the center of this fabric to allow the wicks to run up through it. Basically the fabric keeps soil out of the water reservoir.

I used perlite and hydroton (because I had it already) at about 40% of the mix. However I'd say the majority is perlite.

And I totally get what you both are getting at with larger no tills! It sounds like heaven....and I wish I had the room as well. I have 24" wide doors and only 6 ft of height. Which is why I choose the 25 gallon plastic pots as I can still move them in and out.

I know your busy but I did a write up on my thread which can be found in my sig

Keep Up the excellent work Don. You certainly have top notch skills:bigjoint:
 
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CaptainSnap said:
I basically converted a 25 gallon plastic planter with a large saucer into the sips. Put lava rock on bottom to cover holes. Experimenting with cotton rope and poly rope for wicks. Each one has 4 wicks that run from bottom holes to center of pot and then up the center towards the top. I cut and use a circular piece of geotextile fabric (fabric pot material) on top of the lava rocks. Theres an x cut in the center of this fabric to allow the wicks to run up through it. Basically the fabric keeps soil out of the water reservoir.

I used perlite and hydroton (because I had it already) at about 40% of the mix. However I'd say the majority is perlite.

And I totally get what you both are getting at with larger no tills! It sounds like heaven....and I wish I had the room as well. I have 24" wide doors and only 6 ft of height. Which is why I choose the 25 gallon plastic pots as I can still move them in and out.

I know your busy but I did a write up on my thread which can be found in my sig

Keep Up the excellent work Don. You certainly have top notch skills:bigjoint:
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Yeah height becomes the other major limiting factor, with a giant bed, you still have to do somewhat smaller or wider plants especially when in 6 and 7 ft situations, 10 foot ceilings being the ultimate dream!

The couple extra miles you went should prove to assist longevity... if you get a load of worms in there, that thing is going to stay breathing! You could also drill 1/8th inch holes in your plastic, and since you got saucers to sip out of, that should help you avoid over compacting or leaching..

way to use what space and materials you have on hand, the quality of smoke that you can generate now will surely amaze those you know, as long as you play with good genes, and can control your enviro, if you need any more help, we are here for ya!
 
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I appreciate the advice! You are an invaluable member to a great community! I hope by this time next year I can get my hands on those Jah Earth Genetics! Debating to pop either Dr.Who, OG Grape Krypt, or some Ocean Grown Malibu Pie. Thats all I have left for fire genetics!!
 
ShLUbY

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CaptainSnap said:
I appreciate the advice! You are an invaluable member to a great community! I hope by this time next year I can get my hands on those Jah Earth Genetics! Debating to pop either Dr.Who, OG Grape Krypt, or some Ocean Grown Malibu Pie. Thats all I have left for fire genetics!!
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omg you have dr. who??!?!?!! pop that shit... man i wish i had my two phenos of that again. I lost them both one summer to heat and powder mildew issues. shit is remarkably frosty, awesome terps, and there were two phenos I had, one that finished purple and one that finished green. the green had larger buds than the purple, but the purple had better terp profile. the malibu pie is def fire too and worth popping... but damn that dr. who.... :fire::fire::fire::fire:
 
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Well I only have 3 seeds of the dr. as I traded some dr. who for some Malibu pie....I have the plant count to pop them both:roll:
With your descriptions its almost a must!! Thanks for deciding for me Shluby!! Another invaluable member providing trusty information to this awesome community!
 
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