Removal of chlorine/chloramines from tap water with ascorbic acid (vitamin c)

gjs4786

gjs4786

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Howdy,
In a week or so I'll be transplanting to my 7 gallon containers. Per my water report, my tap water has chloramines in it. Now, there are contradictory reports all over the web as to whether or not chlorine or chloramines pose a problem to beneficial bacteria. I'd rather err on the side of caution.

With that said, here http://www.sfwater.org/modules/showdocument.aspx?documentid=4125 is a great report outlining the use of Vitamin C to remove chlorine or chloramines from ones water in roughly 30 minutes without filtration.

My question is, would it be safe for the plants? I intend on using pure ascorbic acid, as the vitamin pills have all sorts of binding agents in them. Is there any evidence of ascorbic acid building up in the soil over time and causing harm? It would be roughly 50-100mg per 5 gallons of water.
Thanks for any input.
 
Budzbuddha

Budzbuddha

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My 2¢ ....

I wouldn't try to Frankenstein your water source ... Chloramine and such are basic disinfecting elements to kill off water borne pathogens . To me if you water your grass with it , why wouldn't your plant grow ?

It's considered hard water because of mineral compositions. My tap comes in at 7.1 ph , sometimes at 6.8 , it varies ( pretty much daily ) .... I just put out an open container of tap - vape off the chlorine a bit , then ph for use. It really is kind of a waste to experiment on water TO THE PLANT that may cause more harm than good.

I ONLY USE TAP - No RO ( which you have to add back CALMAG ) , distilled , well or unicorn piss . Weed is just like any other plant or vegetable. As long as it is ph to allow maximum absorption of required minerals , that's all that's important.
 
Budzbuddha

Budzbuddha

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Think about it ... Those cartel growers run lines ( or redirect ) River , stream water to their guerilla grows .... Who knows what's in that shit ... But the weed grows. Municipal water is what is and there is no changing it.
 
charface

charface

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How does chlaromine affect the microorganisms.
If I was growing full organic I would at least be cautious. Not sure if it kills beneficial microbes
 
gjs4786

gjs4786

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charface said:
How does chlaromine affect the microorganisms.
If I was growing full organic I would at least be cautious. Not sure if it kills beneficial microbes
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They put the chloramine in the water to inhibit the growth of bad bacteria. It makes sense that it would also kill, or have an impact on at least, beneficial bacteria. Some say it is terrible, some say it doesn't make much of a difference (chloramine that is)
As far as mexico grown bud -- if I was going for that kind of quality I wouldn't care. Budzbuddah, what do you mean municipal water is what it is, and there is no changing it? Of course you can change it. Countless people let their water stand to remove chlorine. I also don't see how it's a waste to experiment with the plant. How else would they have developed some of the cannabis friendly lines of nutrients/soils? You don't know until you try. I was hoping someone who had experience would have some info to share. Anyways...why do you let your water stand to remove the chlorine, yet you are suggesting I don't attempt to remove chloramine? You do know that's just chlorine w/ an ammonia molecule attached to it, yes? And my water isn't hard, not sure where you got that from.
 
Budzbuddha

Budzbuddha

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Might as well use lake , River , stream water ........

If it's full of crypto spores , so micros will thrive ...
 
gjs4786

gjs4786

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Budzbuddha said:
Might as well use lake , River , stream water ........

If it's full of crypto spores , so micros will thrive ...
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All the bacteria is dead when it comes out of the tap. The idea of removing the chloramine before introducing it to your plants is so the beneficials will thrive. If I were to use stream water indoors, that could be bad. Depends on whats in the water. The whole point indoors is to give it something that is basically inert so it can keep producing more of what is already in the soil.
 
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Tim1987

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This is a really interesting topic.
I dont think they use chloramine in Aus. Not where i am anyway.
Does anyone know if, when a garden bed is watered, does the chloramine stay residual, and relatively close to the surface?
Or does it go wherever the water goes?
How does it naturally break down too?
Great thread @ais4786
 
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Blitz35

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Budzbuddha said:
Think about it ... Those cartel growers run lines ( or redirect ) River , stream water to their guerilla grows .... Who knows what's in that shit ... But the weed grows. Municipal water is what is and there is no changing it.
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Just on that note..i wouldnt much compare cartels (mexican traffickers) to growing marijuana! Mexican weed is known everywhere to be some of the absolute worst shit one can smoke! I'd see what they do, and do everything different! lol:)
As for the question..to my knowledge, chloramine can be removed by boiling your water for about 15-20 minutes. Chlorine though has to sit and be allowed to evaporate as boiling won't remove much chlorine from tap water.
 
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gpsanjeev

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Vitamin C works really good to remove chloramine from water. I have been researching this since last 3 months. Last month I started using vitamin C and my plants love it. Not only vitamin C removes chloramine, but also it provides the plant with natural antioxidants. Plants love it. I used to buy water before I used vitamin C. Tell you what my plants seem to thrive more in Vitamin C treated water than store bought water. I use 500 mg for 20 gallon water. Also I use food sourced vitamin C rather than chemically sourced one. I hope this helps people who are reaearching this topic.
 
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gpsanjeev

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I would like to add vitamin C or ascorbic acid actually helps getting rid of any salt or residue build up. It prevents any nutrient lockout. Roots are able to take more nutrients. Its great stuff all the way.
 
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JohnDee

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I used tap water while living on Oregon coast. Perfect for plants except the added disinfectants. I used Sodium thiosulfate which is a safe and cheap chemical which breaks the bond between the ammonia and chlorine (in the chloramine). Then let it sit for a day for the chlorine to evaporate. A good carbon filter will remove it too. Lots of stuff on the web about ascorbic acid but what happens to the chlorine at that point? Not a chemist .
JD
 
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gpsanjeev

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john wishmyer said:
i let mine sit out for a couple days between waterings to let that stuff evaporate.
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While chlorine dissipates from water after letting it sit out for a day, chloramine does not. So if your tap water hast just chlorine, letting it sit out for a day removes all the chlorine. But if your tap water has chloramine, it doesn’t evaporate from water by just letting it sit out. It has to be filtered or treated with vitamin C/absorbic acid or sodium thiosulfate or other organic materials. I prefer food sourced vitamin C for the added benefits mentioned above in the thread.
 
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KryptoBud

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JohnDee said:
Absolutely...that's the whole purpose of removing it.
JD
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Click on it. It's lab tests using chlorinated water's affects on bene's.
It's also found in a lot of bottled nutes.

( I was gonna edit the first post to add this but you replied to fast and I type to slow)
 
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