Medijuana Strain - Very small buds 6 weeks into flower.

Mrwest806

Member
It not my leaves, it's lighting and untrained or untopped plants can focus on making 1 big cola. Looking to make many from 1 plant. Thanks for your input though
 

xtsho

Well-Known Member
It not my leaves, it's lighting and untrained or untopped plants can focus on making 1 big cola. Looking to make many from 1 plant. Thanks for your input though
Those plants I posted were trained and had mutiple tops. You can't see the entire tent in that picture but it was four plants with a minimum of four cola's on each.

Leaves are the engines of the plant. Photosynthesis occurs in the leaves.

"Photosynthesis is a process used by plants and other organisms to convert light energy into chemical energy that can later be released to fuel the organisms' activities (energy transformation)."

In growing marijuana the organisms activities we a trying to fuel is flower creation. More leaves equals more energy for the plant to use for that purpose. You are not going to trim your way to big buds.

Here is a better picture of another grow. Four plants, numerous tops, and numerous large colas. Never a single leave removed. Grown under a 600 watt HPS in 100% coco and nothing more than cheap powdered base nutes.

 

KryptoBud

Well-Known Member
Can I see your grow so I can see how a expert master grower grows please
Expert master grower? Nope, a pinch of common sense and a little effort to read and understand basic plant functions is all you need to start. If your skin is to thin for an honest answer don't ask the question. Your yield is small because you cut off the very things that drive every process of a plants life. The dry mass of a plant doesn't come from getting light to bud sites or secret sauces with a catchy name and brightly colored label. Most of it comes directly from the air you're breathing and its absorbed by the leaves. As for my grow, when I post a thread asking for help I'll be sure to give you all the info and pics you need, until then take the info or leave it I'm fine with whatever you choose.
 
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xtsho

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No it's definitely your leaves
I agree. It's like other plants except the flower is the fruit. I have fruit trees in my backyard. If I trimmed all the leaves off my peach tree when the peaches were forming I'd harvest peaches the size of a golf ball instead of nice big fruit.
 

Mrwest806

Member
Fck I thought I was talking to grown ups not cheerleaders. I really wasn't being a ass by my comment. He didn't get offended, that man continued his point, it's you other manginas that got in your famine feelings. Lol
Thanks Xtsho for your help honestly.
 

Tim1987

Well-Known Member
Those plants I posted were trained and had mutiple tops. You can't see the entire tent in that picture but it was four plants with a minimum of four cola's on each.

Leaves are the engines of the plant. Photosynthesis occurs in the leaves.

"Photosynthesis is a process used by plants and other organisms to convert light energy into chemical energy that can later be released to fuel the organisms' activities (energy transformation)."

In growing marijuana the organisms activities we a trying to fuel is flower creation. More leaves equals more energy for the plant to use for that purpose. You are not going to trim your way to big buds.

Here is a better picture of another grow. Four plants, numerous tops, and numerous large colas. Never a single leave removed. Grown under a 600 watt HPS in 100% coco and nothing more than cheap powdered base nutes.

Word.
Only way i go.
Much respect @xtsho
 

Mrwest806

Member
Those plants I posted were trained and had mutiple tops. You can't see the entire tent in that picture but it was four plants with a minimum of four cola's on each.

Leaves are the engines of the plant. Photosynthesis occurs in the leaves.

"Photosynthesis is a process used by plants and other organisms to convert light energy into chemical energy that can later be released to fuel the organisms' activities (energy transformation)."

In growing marijuana the organisms activities we a trying to fuel is flower creation. More leaves equals more energy for the plant to use for that purpose. You are not going to trim your way to big buds.

Here is a better picture of another grow. Four plants, numerous tops, and numerous large colas. Never a single leave removed. Grown under a 600 watt HPS in 100% coco and nothing more than cheap powdered base nutes.

1st grow ever, using cheap bag seed 100 dollars of LEDS I'm just glad I got something growing. Lol I agree I definitely over did it with experimenting. Rather trash this plant then quility seed u know. Thanks for the help
 

Tim1987

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1st grow ever, using cheap bag seed 100 dollars of LEDS I'm just glad I got something growing. Lol I agree I definitely over did it with experimenting. Rather trash this plant then quility seed u know. Thanks for the help
Experimenting, is how we all learn bro.
Dont think ive ever done a grow the same.

Einstein's discription of insanity comes to mind.
That doing, the same thing over, and over again. Without improvement, is the definition of insanity.

Dont stop changing, and keep learning bro :peace::peace:

We all found out the hard way. Just most dont want to admit it. :bigjoint:
 

DrdankPHD

Member
I think people need to know there learning curve with led. Honestly I like cmh better. CMH and HPS are more forgiving. But I use cobs too because of temps. I like the cree cobs. You sorta have to know your application and have a plan with LED.
 

Tim1987

Well-Known Member
Please explain
If the light is too intense.
It stunts the plants. Plants stay shorter, and have many more leaves. But the leaves stay small. Fan leaves are the size of sugar leaves. The plant just keeps cannibalising itself, so it can grow new leaves. The roots can only support, so much foliage.
Led's intensity, is a prime example. Because they're generally cooler, they dont get too hot. But the intensity is way too strong.
Plants need to grow into their light. Not wacked with it all at once.
I had seedlings do this under a blurple. They gave off the effect of very hot soil. But it was my light all along. Raised the light, problem was going away within 24hrs.
Its the same with a lot of seedlings outdoors. They wouldnt survive the intense sun if they weren't protected by grass, foliage etc.
They'll burn up and die.
Indoors, they have no cover, and we emulate this by the watts of light we use.
Led intensity can just be way too strong, close to the light.
HID, will burn them. Like a hot sun.
 

kriticalmass710

Active Member
Those plants I posted were trained and had mutiple tops. You can't see the entire tent in that picture but it was four plants with a minimum of four cola's on each.

Leaves are the engines of the plant. Photosynthesis occurs in the leaves.

"Photosynthesis is a process used by plants and other organisms to convert light energy into chemical energy that can later be released to fuel the organisms' activities (energy transformation)."

In growing marijuana the organisms activities we a trying to fuel is flower creation. More leaves equals more energy for the plant to use for that purpose. You are not going to trim your way to big buds.

Here is a better picture of another grow. Four plants, numerous tops, and numerous large colas. Never a single leave removed. Grown under a 600 watt HPS in 100% coco and nothing more than cheap powdered base nutes.

its your leaves.... don't be a dick your the one who asked for help and they have tried to help.
 

DrdankPHD

Member
If the light is too intense.
It stunts the plants. Plants stay shorter, and have many more leaves. But the leaves stay small. Fan leaves are the size of sugar leaves. The plant just keeps cannibalising itself, so it can grow new leaves. The roots can only support, so much foliage.
Led's intensity, is a prime example. Because they're generally cooler, they dont get too hot. But the intensity is way too strong.
Plants need to grow into their light. Not wacked with it all at once.
I had seedlings do this under a blurple. They gave off the effect of very hot soil. But it was my light all along. Raised the light, problem was going away within 24hrs.
Its the same with a lot of seedlings outdoors. They wouldnt survive the intense sun if they weren't protected by grass, foliage etc.
They'll burn up and die.
Indoors, they have no cover, and we emulate this by the watts of light we use.
Led intensity can just be way too strong, close to the light.
HID, will burn them. Like a hot sun.

It sorta the dark secret of led. Lots of commercial grows have failed cause they didn't know how to use them properly.

HPS and CMH. You can use a lux meter. To measure intensity.

Led u usually need to use a more expensive par meter for to get accurate intensity readings.

I personally like led myself. But u sorta need to understand how they work. Cause u can easily burn your plants. If don't know how much lux or par a plant can take at each stage of growth.
 
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