Nirvana PPP and Snow White Grow (First try)

Abnjm

Abnjm

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Germinated 2 PPP and 2 Snow White in the starter blocks sold by Nirvana. All cracked in 24 hours, and seedlings were formed in 3 days. Unfortunately, after a few cocktails, I thought it would be a good idea to pull the seed casing from one of my PPP plants. Took the entire top off and now only have 3 seedlings.

After roots showed, I transplanted the plugs into 10" baskets filled with CocoCoir and surrounded by Hydroton. Covered the seedlings with plastic containers, and misted them for two days with pH's water and a few drops of SuperThrive.

Mixed my first batch of nutes (1/4 strength) for the 10 gallon E & F system this morning:

5ml FloraGrow
5ml FloraMicro (Hardwater)
5ml FloraBloom
1 t. SuperThrive
3.5 T. pH down.

Ended up at 5.9pH with 1.0 EC or 500ppm.

I have the pump set on a timer for 15 minute floods every 4 hours.

Seedlings are under a 600w MH air cooled light, 24/0 with average temperature of 80F.

Am I on the right track?
 

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Abnjm

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It's been 5 days since I started to germinate my seeds. As of today, the remaining three seedlings have two sets of leaves on them, and the PPP is popping its 3rd set. Height is still around 1 1/2 inches, with no apparent stretching. I think I've also got the nutes dialed in for my bagseed tester, and it looks pretty good also.

Late last night, I checked my rez and found the PPM stable, with the pH up to 6.4. I added 1 gallon of distilled water, 3 T of Liquid Karma, and 2 T of Pure Blend. I ended up with 600 ppm at a pH of 5.6. Also changed my flood times from 15 minutes every four hours, to 15 minutes every 6 hours. The coir still seems moist just under the surface, and the hydroton is also damp underneath. Temps have been between 75F and 82F with lots of air movement. RH% is around 47% in the tent, so I installed a cool mist humidifier. Unfortunately, I have so much air moving through the tent, it emptied out in one night. Plants are still on a 24/7 cycle and about 16" from the 600w MH.

A couple of questions:

When I pH tested the distilled water, it read in the low 5's. Is that normal?

How do you keep humidity in check when you're sucking almost 300cfm out of your tent?

Once I figure out how this whole hydro thing works, I'll read my camera's manual to see if I can get better pics....









Check out my previous posts to see how far his poor thing has come.....

 
AEROGROWER76

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damn we doin the same grow im a little further along but all the same i have 2 sw and 2 ppp in 4th week flowering now :weed:
 
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bearo420

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AEROGROWER76 said:
i wanted to try ww but i didnt want too many plants ill go check yours out :weed:
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yeah the hardest part is each strain has different needs. At the moment its easy cause there babies but when there older it takes work because one plants perfect nute setup is another ones death. have to learn what each plant wants almost let alone strain.
 
AEROGROWER76

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bearo420 said:
yeah the hardest part is each strain has different needs. At the moment its easy cause there babies but when there older it takes work because one plants perfect nute setup is another ones death. have to learn what each plant wants almost let alone strain.
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yeah sw seems to grow a lot faster than ppp for example .although i havent had any major problems as of yet .im growing them all in the same aerogarden except for some training to evenly disperse the light .
 
Abnjm

Abnjm

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AEROGROWER76 said:
damn we doin the same grow im a little further along but all the same i have 2 sw and 2 ppp in 4th week flowering now :weed:
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I guess great minds think alike.... :clap:

I hope I can get these girls to your level.... I had 2 PPP plants, but after I had a few cocktails, I thought it would be a good idea to remove the seed cover from one of them.... Popped the damn top off.....:wall: Other than that, I am very happy with the Nirvana seeds, and the germination kit they sent. My first seed popped in under 24 hours....

Thanks for the reply, I'll keep an eye on your thread to help me with my first grow.
 
Abnjm

Abnjm

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bearo420 said:
yeah the hardest part is each strain has different needs. At the moment its easy cause there babies but when there older it takes work because one plants perfect nute setup is another ones death. have to learn what each plant wants almost let alone strain.
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I thought about the different needs at the start, but I have 5 fems of each strain. I figured 2 and 2 would be a good test grow, and it was like freaking Christmas morning...I couldn't wait to open my new toys up!!! Going forward, I will do a better job of investigating coexisting strains.
 
Abnjm

Abnjm

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It has been 7 days since I germed my 4 Nirvana PPP and Snow White seeds. And if it weren't for some late night drunk-botany, I'd be 4 for 4. The PPP seems to be a bit ahead of the Snow White, and popped it's third set of leave two days ago. As of this morning all plants had the third leaves to some extent.

Nutes seem to be under control with a brew of 850 ppm and 5.9% ph. Still under 24/7 lighting at an average of 77F. Although they don't seem to be stretching, the stems were looking a bit purple. I changed the feeding schedule to 15 minute floods every 4 hours, in case the coloring was caused but a deficiency.

First week pics.....

PPP


Snow Whites


 
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CooliyoG

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Where do you live? Was there any problem with the delivery from Nivana because I plan on ordering the germination kit and some PPP(fem) seeds. I live in Ireland.
 
Abnjm

Abnjm

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CooliyoG said:
Where do you live? Was there any problem with the delivery from Nivana because I plan on ordering the germination kit and some PPP(fem) seeds. I live in Ireland.
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I live in the states. Ordered my seeds on the 9th, and received them the 22nd. Pretty good stealth, 100% germination so far. The germination kit is probably overpriced, but it was easy to use, and 100% of the seeds germed within 36 hours; even after my wife cranked up the heat pad and turned it into a steam bath...:wall: Although it's early in the grow, the PPP seems to be doing better than the Snow White.
 
Abnjm

Abnjm

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These are my nute numbers since the last update:

10/01: EC 1.8 / 900 ppm; 5.9pH

10/02: EC 1.8 / 900 ppm; 6.2pH. Added 1/2 T pH down to 5.8pH

10/03: EC 1.9 / 950 ppm; 6.0pH. Added 1/2 gal Dist. water to 5.9pH

10/04: EC 1.8 / 900 ppm; 6.1pH. Added 1/2 gal Dist. Water, 1/2 T pH Down to 5.7pH


Looks like my EC keeps pretty constant, and my pH creeps up every day. I believe that shows good nute balance... I noticed the SW in the back starting to cup it's leaves a little, but is also taller than the other two. I had the 600w MH about 12" above the plants, so I moved the light up another 6" to see if the leaves would flatten out.

Both SW plants are growing their 3rd set of leaves, and the PPP is working on it's fourth. (First true leaves?) The leaves on all plants are very tight together, with no sign of stretching.

PPP:


Snow Whites:




Poor beat up test bagseed plant:


As always, any tips, tricks or advice are certainly appreciated.
 
wyteberrywidow

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you should check your tray and see how long it takes to flood the tray and time it for that every 4 hours since coco retains water alot.I would think 15 minutes is a bit too long
 
Abnjm

Abnjm

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wyteberrywidow said:
you should check your tray and see how long it takes to flood the tray and time it for that every 4 hours since coco retains water alot.I would think 15 minutes is a bit too long
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I have been running to my room every 4 hours to check the fill speed. I continue to set the pump speed back to slow the fill. Unfortunately, I have a timer that only programs in 15 min increments. On the other hand, the seedlings don't appear to be getting overwatered, so that's a good thing.

I am changing the res today and bumping the EC up a bit. I will be starting with a combination of tap (450ppm / 5.8pH) and distilled water to double my nutrient amounts, and keep the ppm below 1000ppm. I will also change feedings to once every 6 hours to make it a more gentle transition.

It'll be interesting to see how much CocoCoir is stuck in my pump....

Thanks for checking in!
 
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