best nutrients to use in hydro

Bernie420

Bernie420

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PetFlora said:
soil uses microbes which turn nutrients into aminos. In hydro microbes screwed up my roots, but aminos and enzymes at ~ 1/4 strength worked fine

FYI, plants, unlike humans, have no problem converting inorganic salts into energy
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I use microbes in my hydro to keep my roots looking good. Even though they will die off they battle all the bad bacteria in there, some manage to stay alive at the top of the pots it seems. idk Its what I do.
 
Budley Doright

Budley Doright

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Bernie420 said:
can I ask you about this? I take it you grow in hydro? So this whole time for the past couple of years all the amino acid I bought was a waste. The amino aid from soul synthetics was the product I used.
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LOL so I think you quoted the wrong guy....I like the results I got :).
 
Budley Doright

Budley Doright

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Cold$moke said:
Back burner front burner dosent matter to me bud ;)

But if you get a werid lock out let me know

Im sure they would probably be ok but im not a chemist .
And it isnt really worth trying in my eyes.

But what ever floats your boat :)
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LOL That’s why I asked Bernie to do it.....I don’t have the room or the time ;). I’m thinking it probably will be fine but who knows lol.
 
Budley Doright

Budley Doright

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Bernie420 said:
no... why was it everybody told you not to that was what I was asking
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Oh sorry :(. I heard it wasn’t needed, waste of money, plants produce more than enough. I was so frustrated with what seemed like a cal/mag lockout that I just bit the bullet and tried it. The old guy said due to my high concentrations of cal/mag in water they were locking each other out, amionos would stop this, it seems to have worked ;). I did find some green algae on a filter today that I’ve never had before. I’m really hoping it’s not the mega crop :(, I’m assuming a light leak :(.
 
Michael Huntherz

Michael Huntherz

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I am really glad that it seems nobody else is using the 16-4-17 one part Oasis hydro to grow cannabis, I loved developing my own feeding program. I learned a lot and it works very well for the most part. It is like having my own little secret. I will be using the same shit in soil soon.
#zfg
 
Michael Huntherz

Michael Huntherz

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jimihendrix1 said:
Its like taking to many vitamins.

Youll pee out what you don't use, and the 1s that are stored in the plant/body will eventually build up, poison it.

More isn't always better. The main things, ( ONLY THINGs ) that matter is Bioavailability, and Correct Chemical Ratios.

The correct Ratio for weed is 9.5 x 20 x 39. No More, No Less. I'm sure these is small variation, and Chem Gro even says some strains may benefit from more Iron, and Magnesium.

But to add anything else is both overkill, unnecessary, and potentially harmful.
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Okay guitar man, where did you get those NPK numbers? I have never seen anyone credible claim to know the perfect fertilizer for cannabis before, what’s your source?
 
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southernguy99

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Environment trumps nutes every time.... this is not True. All factors are equally as important, in a Scenario where the environment is very good and the nutes are shit you will not have optimal growth, the same as if the nutes were very good and the environment was shit. A plants leaves are connected directly with the root system, they work together not independently. Also if you guys are talking about building blocks of a plant etc you should be putting a lot more thought in to micro nutes as well.
 
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southernguy99

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Michael Huntherz said:
I like the feeding schedule, looks pretty legit to me, and it has good endorsements from everyone I have talked to who uses it,
Do it!
https://hydro-gardens.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/Burchetts-recipe-2017.pdf
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Disclaimer I have never used Chem-Gro 4-20-39 just looked it up would never use it lol , I looked at the recipe it is far from legit , its pretty sad, someone must have made it to sell product . not only is it not balanced ( the most important part ) but the other values are way off IE. Calcium nitrate/ MPP etc. why would anyone even dream of throwing that much nitrate at your plants from week 5 on. and i think they forgot the importance of MPP
 
Michael Huntherz

Michael Huntherz

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rkymtnman said:
have you run maxi? so far after a few grows, i don' t need to add anythign other than silica. it's complete 1 part
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I have been hearing about it, may have to check it out. Thanks for the tip, man!

Took a look, seems a little pricey but it might be a good flower base for me. I do end up with too much N if I am not cautious.
Looks like I could use it in flower and Oasis in veg and have good results.
 
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southernguy99

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rkymtnman said:
you have some ppm ranges for veg and bloom for all 16 micros?
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you have some ppm ranges for veg and bloom for all 16 micros?[/QUOTE

yeah I can tell you the percentage of each micro nute you need in the solution to supply the plant with its needs,I can tell you this on a weekly basis as the need of most micro nutes change as the plant develops/ grows and goes through different stages, the relation ships between the micro nutes and how to keep them all in balance. this took years of testing and plant sampling so forgive me if i don't hand it out like candy

but my point is this when mixing your own nutes the sky is the limit on what you can do so think outside the box and don't forget how important micro nutes are now a days a lot of this info is published it just takes some research and testing.
 
Michael Huntherz

Michael Huntherz

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southernguy99 said:
you have some ppm ranges for veg and bloom for all 16 micros?[/QUOTE

yeah I can tell you the percentage of each micro nute you need in the solution to supply the plant with its needs,I can tell you this on a weekly basis as the need of most micro nutes change as the plant develops/ grows and goes through different stages, the relation ships between the micro nutes and how to keep them all in balance. this took years of testing and plant sampling so forgive me if i don't hand it out like candy

but my point is this when mixing your own nutes the sky is the limit on what you can do so think outside the box and don't forget how important micro nutes are now a days a lot of this info is published it just takes some research and testing.
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Return to your ivory tower, oh micronutrient wizard, and speak not again.
 
rkymtnman

rkymtnman

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southernguy99 said:
yeah I can tell you the percentage of each micro nute you need in the solution to supply the plant with its needs,I can tell you this on a weekly basis as the need of most micro nutes change as the plant develops/ grows and goes through different stages, the relation ships between the micro nutes and how to keep them all in balance. this took years of testing and plant sampling so forgive me if i don't hand it out like candy
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how about tossing us a freebie? Boron. what are your ppms for weeks 1 thru 8 in bloom on an 8 week strain?
 
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