horribleherk
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mega crop is here to stay it's so simple using dry calmag too , finishing this one off & have the other tent started getting frosty too
HydroRed's Horticultural Whorehouse
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MichiganMedGrower
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Hey guys I was reading along and had to lol at my plants a minute.
These are all grown 12/12 from seed. Planted taprooted in 1 gallon and transplanted up to 3. No veg time. Right under the 600w hps lamps from the start.
I had been cleaning out the veg/lung room and setting up a new tent so I kept the perpetual going planting into the flower room.
1 plant I did not transplant up and left in her original #1 nursery pot. Which is really 3/4 gallon in capacity I believe. My #3 are about 2.5.
Anyway. To finish this long gettin’ post here is the POW 33 sprouted, grown and bloomed in the 1.
She was more packed in at the growth stage. 2 bushes have been harvested that were in before veg went down.
She is mostly dry in the closet and I think will need trimmed tonight and I will have a weight.
I did test a piece. Very smooth on day 8 in the drying closet. Tasty with some fruity tones coming through. Decent even hybrid high and buzz with very up happy edge. But no heavy blast due to being too fresh still or other factors. I always test every plant off the vine at some point in the closet.
Ed rosenthal said he tested plants with different veg times and invariably the longer the veg the more potent the final product.
Now weed was at like 7-13% back then but I am starting to think a solid veg to maturity is necessary.
I know this is the opposite of the tone of the quick turnaround but I had to share. i have a nice variety of common phenos of the plants from 12/12 to compare. Particularly the 2 og Kush x Trainwreck.
Not clones my test. But maybe older moms are better for donors?
BleedsGreen
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I sprouted some old seeds I had around (well attempted to sprout them, most I have had in a jar in the back of a cabinet for over 5 years some as long as 10 years, only 5 out of 11 popped so far) Cheese #1, Bubble Gum, Exodus Haze, Critical +2.0 and chem dawg #4. I built a new veger and moved those 5 into it yesterday using 1/5 strength Mega Crop under T5's (only 4-8 small roots showing out of the rapid rooter cubes) I will run these and my next set of clones in the Mega Crop to see what happens, hopefully I will be ditching the botanicare line afterwards. Don't get me wrong Botanicare nutrients have been great for my grows only complaint is cost and shipping all the water.
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norcaliwood
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Hope gardens are growing green.....
Them Black Puppies are still in my gardens,,,, least till something better pops up?
Keepem Green
Them Black Puppies are still in my gardens,,,, least till something better pops up?
Keepem Green
Cold$moke
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I will always have a soft spot for botanicare.
And i might go back to try them one day as they did make some duper tasty buds
As im a big believer in being able to tell which hydro nutes was used as i guarantee you WILL taste a change lol
No matter how good you cure no matter how good you flush it will always impart flavor in my opinion. Even organic impart its aromas to the buds ie guanos lol
Its not a bad thing just my 2 cents
HydroRed
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Fruity Pebbles OG (fem) from seed getting ready for the flip.
Mothers Milk has been rooting nicely since the transplant & being moved to the momma room, but hasnt shown any signs of "reveg" other than a few white pistols here n there.
I looked at her close today and saw a promising sign that she might be getting there. A new mini leaf on the very tip of the bud!
Mothers Milk has been rooting nicely since the transplant & being moved to the momma room, but hasnt shown any signs of "reveg" other than a few white pistols here n there.
I looked at her close today and saw a promising sign that she might be getting there. A new mini leaf on the very tip of the bud!
CAPT CHESAPEAKE
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Great thread Mr Red . I really like your style of growing has me rethinking the way I do things. I have just a couple of questions if you don't mind. 1. What % h202 are you using to mix into your reservoir ? 2. would I still need the h202 in a drain to waste system? 3. Do you put any stock into the comments made about more veg time more potency? . Again great job I like the idea of being able to grow more varieties faster turn around.
Cold$moke
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Wish i could smell the jar lol
Cold$moke
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I think potency can have a few determining factors but i dont think veg time is really one of them.
I think veg is more for weight then anything.
But there are those like the rev that say you should grow yours seedsin veg till sexual maturity before flip to reduce stress. What kind of stress i cant recall lol
But he loves the dirt hes growing in so i dont know for sure on that one
I think veg is more for weight then anything.
But there are those like the rev that say you should grow yours seedsin veg till sexual maturity before flip to reduce stress. What kind of stress i cant recall lol
But he loves the dirt hes growing in so i dont know for sure on that one
HydroRed
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Thanks CAPT!
1. I use the cheap 3% from the drug store (.89 and buy one get one half off) in the 996ml bottle. It works great for me since I only use 10 gal of water in my res at a time. I dont measure anymore ,but I use about 15ml of H2o2 per gal of water just to keep everything sterile. If I dont do a topoff of my res for more than 2-3 days, I'll add150-200 ml back into the res just to ensure it stays sterile and fresh. H2o2 at 3% will only stay in your res for about 2 days or so. The only byproduct is highly oxygenated water
2. As for using in DTW, I dont find that it would be necessary as its basically used just to maintain the res for recirculation since organic matter makes its way back to the res like root fragments etc.
3. I dont believe veg time has any bearing on potency.
MichiganMedGrower
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Pretty sure I posted that info. It came from Ed Rosenthals Grow book. He tested longer and longer veg and his results showed higher potency the longer he vegged.
I am testing a few 12/12 plants now of known phenos sprouted in the flower room. I have even cloned one to reveg. Hope I still want it after testing. Lol. It’s a real nice og Kush x Trainwreck.
I have been vegging 18/6 for about 2 months from seed previously.
The first 12/12 plant is beautiful and frosty and is not as potent as the last one I vegged first.
But with so many variables and no lab I am only able to use my opinion and others opinions for results.
I will say the vegged plants have stronger stems and get a third bigger with the same soil pots nutes etc.
MichiganMedGrower
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I think there are many other variables and an older veg plant can have problems too which would make results worse.
I think the stable environment and how well the Grow went is first for quality.
All the other crap we talk about is only good for diminishing returns.
Ed also said more watts equals more potency as well as bigger flowers.
I expected my 315 cmh plants to be better but when compared to the 600 hps the hps buds were noticeably stronger. Patients asked what I did even.
Maybe I just got better at this?
Cold$moke
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Possible ive been decently on point with half my room lol but i know my root system could be bigger had i not changed nutes halfway through
The other half i lost out on by stunting them a bit some how but next run should be tits
I think potency had mainly genetics and like you say how well the plant was done
Rather then lights and plant age.
Cause lots of guys get good bud from seed but i dont know for sure either
The other half i lost out on by stunting them a bit some how but next run should be tits
I think potency had mainly genetics and like you say how well the plant was done
Rather then lights and plant age.
Cause lots of guys get good bud from seed but i dont know for sure either
HydroRed
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$moke makes a valid point on age of plant. I have a momma of GG4 thats going on 3 yrs old, so the cuttings are vegged "technically" for 3 yrs right? I cant say I see a difference in potentcy between the grows from day one to present other than my personal performance with them which has had variable differences from grow to grow.