Thanks for trying to tell me im a noob? Lol
You didnt answer what i asked and i said interested but now ill be my normal prick self
Links to your proof?
At what age does improvement stop cause genetic drift might say differnt lol
So a 20 year clone is just going to be a frosted super bud right .....pffft
Don't know where you got the me calling you a noob thing, maybe my edit, but certainly was not aimed at you or meant to denigrate anyone. We all started at some point. Sorry if you took it that way just trying to spread good info and you definitely are not the only one reading or the one I speak to when I reply to things of this nature. I am just taking time out my day I don't have to to spread good info like I have been for about 18~ years now online.
At what age does improvement stop cause genetic drift might say differnt lol
It isn't like it continues to get better, the clone is the clone, it performs how it performs and doesn't just magically improve over time or improve through successive cloning. It performs better than the seed version in every case. If it doesn't then there are either environmental changes causing this or some parameters changing. My proof? Ask any serious cannabis grower. This has been common knowledge in the industry as much as watering the plant helps it grow (maybe a little exaggeration there
)... I don't know the exact science as to why clones perform better but I am quite sure some botanist out there has figured out and has quite a bit of essays and empirical research papers on it. I have always just put it on the fact they are more mature and don't have to put the same amount of energy as a seed plant does into growing when starting from seed. It has less variables to deal with that require energy and time. IE no breaking through seed shell and fighting to survive, no generating roots from scratch, no fight to get to top of soil, lots of plant parts are already there that did not exist previously. I believe this allows for more that energy to go to production and what not. This is just based on my logic and observation as well as countless others far more experienced and knowledgeable than me and with degrees to boot.
Clones quit performing good when they are abused and misused over generations has been my personal observation. IE every time I am forced to reveg a plant the successive clones taken from it seems to be shitty themselves and over time they seemed to diminish. This is purely based on my observation from years of growing and breeding. There may be other factors to it, but the plants I have kept healthy for years and never put to extreme stress or abused never show any difference. There are many clones out there like the Aeric Cali-o clones, chemdogs, sd's, OGK's, that have been around over 20 years and show no signs of degradation. MNS parental stock, DP, Sensi you name it all have parents that are 20+ years old and will tell you they don't see any issues with them.
By the way I think you have genetic drift and epigenetic changes confused? Epigenetic = environment affects genes and causes changes and is not very well understood, but much better in the last decade. We are getting way off topic here... Check it through google and ask around if really interested.
I usually just tacked up better plant prefomance to having a grow experience of that strain from the first run
Not the plant magically improved in a few months lmao.
Sounds like bro science unless you can direct me to some links
This very true! Do not discount this! Especially if you are not growing in the exact same soil with the exact same nutrient content confirmed by soil testing every time! As well as using water with the exact same nutrient and mineral content every time. Same goes for environment even small humidity and temp changes can be big factors. All things must be equal for the most part.
This is why most master growers = sealed rooms.
