2 die in licenced Medical grow fire

CannaReview

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Do we not pay people really good money to test products for safety before they are allowed to be sold in Canada? Don't buy from China. I would pay a premium for 'made in Canada' and CSA approved.
Everything I sell is either ETL/cUL/CSA most wholesalers wont carry any non certified electronics. I not fan of Gavita as a company but they are CSA approved. Usally ETL is the cheapest and cUL which is up to CSA standards but not as kosher as CSA. I know someone what went through CSA for a machine and it was pretty rigorous testing. As for ETL/Intertek you can just call them up, they'll come to your house/shop check out the electronics an certify them if they pass and you'll get a ETL/Intertek number which will be listed on their site/db.
 

CalyxCrusher

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I'm sure the morons think they have some real dirt with this. They don't. There have been at least three other fatal fires in Canada in recent weeks despite the absence of a grow. Most residential fires are caused by cooking appliances and I don't see them outlawing kitchens. I'm sure the idiots will use this to play politics, but it just further demonstrates the uselessness of the senate. They do not have the ability to stop or change the bill.
Dont forget dryer lint traps not being emptied regularly, surprisingly more common cause than people think
 

zoic

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And probably equally common are the idiots who try to fight the fire instead of saving their family and pets. I have been in a few fires and I just think it is foolhardy to try and play the hero. You can replace most of your belongings but you cannot replace your life.
 

greg nr

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Almost all of the chinese knock off brands either have no certifications or fake emblems. It's not illegal to import or sell those in the US, as long as they aren't used in a commercial establishment.

Chances are someone tried to save a few rubles and went with a cheaper brand.
 

dienowk

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Super sad story for sure, damn shame it may be used to gut home grows for rec (not that this affects any of us).. When I first saw the story of this fire I found it lacking in information of any evidence they actual have to come to the conclusion that the grow caused it, "The Surrey Fire Service says the cause of the fire has been tentatively linked to electrical equipment for a licensed medical marijuana grow operation" is worded in a way that makes it sound like the equipment caused the fire but them using "tentatively" allows them to say they weren't lying if it turns out that they were full of shit once the investigation is over.

I wondered a few things if it was in fact the grow that caused the fire and they were things such as:
1. Were they using a flip box on a ballast that said not to ?
2. Was the electrical done themselves (scarily common), by a skilled sparky, or by an unskilled sparky ?
3. Did they regularly check their equipment to make sure it was running properly and that it was safe ? by safe I mean things that should be dry staying dry, making sure things that are mechanical in nature are all fully functioning and not on the fritz at all, making sure bulbs are properly functioning and not in a state that could lead to it exploding.
4. Were they just careless growers ?

Even more reason for those who grow to have proper fire suppression systems. Even if you're just a tent or two in a spare bedroom you can get one of these...
Been trying to find these local for some time but they are apparently difficult to get and sell out extremely fast because growers tend to be pretty cautious people.
 

GreenHighlander

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Dont forget dryer lint traps not being emptied regularly, surprisingly more common cause than people think

Even more then the lint in the actual lint trap, there is lint that does not come out on the screen. After years of it building up unnoticed. I use to vacuum mine out once a year. Now I don't have or use a dryer.
Also you get what you pay for. Do not cheap out on any electrical equipment. Unless of course you feel your life is only worth the $40 or so you saved.
I also have a few extinguishers in my house. Just the normal ones. But now that you folks shared that bulldog style I am going to have to look into getting a few of those.
Cheers :)
 

CannaReview

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whitebb2727

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Even more reason for those who grow to have proper fire suppression systems. Even if you're just a tent or two in a spare bedroom you can get one of these...
I was going to post that. I ordered one myself. My grows small but always on my mind. Being its not legal here I'm sure the insurance wouldn't pay.
 

whitebb2727

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Water works on almost every type fire if used properly.

I prefer the water with foam extinguishers.
 

CannaReview

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I'm starting to feel foolish for not having one. Is this one that you would recommend Canna?
I sold a few but going by Groznoe return rate for their SCO2 and their customer service that's that one I would for sure buy in a pre-made product. Another way to do it is use a something like this and wire it up to the contactor https://www.qcsupply.com/10004-peco-thermostat-tf115.html Some contractors when they lose power to shut off have to be manually reset by a button on the contactor. So once the Peco unit shuts it off you have to manually re-set the contactor.
 

R.Raider

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I sold a few but going by Groznoe return rate for their SCO2 and their customer service that's that one I would for sure buy in a pre-made product. Another way to do it is use a something like this and wire it up to the contactor https://www.qcsupply.com/10004-peco-thermostat-tf115.html Some contractors when they lose power to shut off have to be manually reset by a button on the contactor. So once the Peco unit shuts it off you have to manually re-set the contactor.
Interesting, thx. I'll for sure look into it. I've recently moved my grow out to my shop and feel like I need to start taking more safety precautions.
 
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