Crab Pot
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Looking awesome my friend. If you went to a 25 -30 gallon pot I think you would easily double your yield.
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Looking awesome my friend. If you went to a 25 -30 gallon pot I think you would easily double your yield.
ThaMagnificent
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What kind of gpw are you guys getting?
gr865
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It is already more than I want to fuck with. It takes about 8 gallons of solution every two days and about to step that up to daily. Early morning, water to just before runoff, then in the evening give it about 30% runoff. Oh I am in coco.
I will begin 12/12 in a few weeks or so, the plant has just about reached the edges of the 36" screen.
GR
gr865
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My last few grows,
2 plant Horizontal grow Super Citrus Haze and WW 15 zips, 0.65 G/W WW did 6 zips and SCH did 9 zips.
5 plant Vertical grow G13 Haze and Critical Kush, 24.5 zips, 1.08 G/W. The 4 G13's did the 24.5 zips, the Critical Kush was a mess and ended up just going straight into make FECO.
5 plant Vertical grow LSD 17 zips 0.8 G/W Pheno's # 3 and 5 were just under 2 zips each and #'s 1, 4 and 5 produced the other 13 zips.
5 plant Horizontal grow, LSD clones, 26.5 zips, 1.17 G/W. This was 4 Pheno #1's and one Pheno #3, again #3 was about 2.5 zips and the 4 Pheno #1's was just over 24 zips.
Current grow, LSD Pheno #5 single plant Monster Crop, will harvest sometime late July or early Aug.
GR
Evil-Mobo
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So from your data so far one could conclude that growing horizontal vs vertical will be strain dependent for max yields?
ThaMagnificent
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Yea I'm averaging .7gpw horizontal too
gr865
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@Evil-Mobo
I agree with your conclusion of strain dependency on weight. But also mistakes during the grow are zip killers.
If all grows were trouble free, would have been a better test.
The last two grows, both LSD, 1st grow vertical, that did 17 zips was 5 different Pheno's, #1 was the biggest producer and I had 4 of them. at 5 plus zips, the rest were around 2+ zips with #3 being the lightest.
So the LSD clone grow was a surprise, I burned the plants at three weeks into flower, plants grew into the lamps, not touching to too damn close. But the buds were heavy, and the aver. weight of those 4 plants was 6 zips per plant with no larf at all.
I will be making oil today, 1.5 lbs of product, zip WW, three zips of G13 Haze, and the remainder will be buds from the LSD plus the sugar leaves from the trim and a few zips of the shit I did not want to trim, knowing it was going in making FECO.
I did a grow in 16' that started out lovely, was my first and last experience in Blumats, had troubles getting them adjusted. Finely thought I had it under control at 4 weeks into flower. Well I returned from a short trip, 5 days to find them dry a a bone, not burned that much yet but everything looked totally funky.
Critical Kush, just before harvest,
Nug from that plant. Very little trichs, funky leaf shapes.
Now this was one of the Cheese plants, looks great but was like smoking rope. I ended up composting the two CK and got about 10 zips off the Big Buddha Cheese, but it would not get you high, maybe a little but not worth keeping so made oil. Did not make a very good product.
So the conclusion of the grow was operator error and a wasted 5 months.
GR
I agree with your conclusion of strain dependency on weight. But also mistakes during the grow are zip killers.
If all grows were trouble free, would have been a better test.
The last two grows, both LSD, 1st grow vertical, that did 17 zips was 5 different Pheno's, #1 was the biggest producer and I had 4 of them. at 5 plus zips, the rest were around 2+ zips with #3 being the lightest.
So the LSD clone grow was a surprise, I burned the plants at three weeks into flower, plants grew into the lamps, not touching to too damn close. But the buds were heavy, and the aver. weight of those 4 plants was 6 zips per plant with no larf at all.
I will be making oil today, 1.5 lbs of product, zip WW, three zips of G13 Haze, and the remainder will be buds from the LSD plus the sugar leaves from the trim and a few zips of the shit I did not want to trim, knowing it was going in making FECO.
I did a grow in 16' that started out lovely, was my first and last experience in Blumats, had troubles getting them adjusted. Finely thought I had it under control at 4 weeks into flower. Well I returned from a short trip, 5 days to find them dry a a bone, not burned that much yet but everything looked totally funky.
Critical Kush, just before harvest,
Nug from that plant. Very little trichs, funky leaf shapes.
Now this was one of the Cheese plants, looks great but was like smoking rope. I ended up composting the two CK and got about 10 zips off the Big Buddha Cheese, but it would not get you high, maybe a little but not worth keeping so made oil. Did not make a very good product.
So the conclusion of the grow was operator error and a wasted 5 months.
GR
gr865
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I feel slighted if I don't achieve 1 plus G/W per grow. I have been growing for awhile and if I can eliminate the stupid errors I know I will do at least a G/W regulary.
This grow I have going now, in the 4X4, Barneys Farm LSD single plant Monster Crop will not even get close to G/W but my GF wanted me to flower it, she said it was so cute. Really was not going to grow until the fall but will flower this plant soon then get ready for the fall grow. It has turned out to be a fun grow.
ThaMagnificent
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That's exactly how I think. You need to get 1gpw. I'm going to get back to led bext round and compare
Evil-Mobo
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I appreciate the feedback and the honesty. I'm in the middle of a transition to hydro but did do a vert grow once in setups like yours with a bare 315 and I went away on a trip and burnt my plants as well. Been thinking about another maybe soon as with the setup for hydro I am losing vertical height inside my tents. But it's a necessary evil as I am disabled and needed to cut down on workload.
I just chopped down about half my flower run because of an issue as well and it was looking like one of my best runs in a year or so and at almost 30 days to flower.
One thing I've learned with this plant, is it's always something lol. That's why we keep extra plants around just in case lol........
Evil-Mobo
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I should reiterate yes no watering leading to drying out not burning .stoner moment in telling my story. I had a 3x3 tent with one plant on each side wall and the rear and had a fourth in a bucket with a net made of PVC and what not like you showed for the front plant so I could take it in and out and tend to the rest of the tent. The 315 hung bare in the center ter up top .
Underground Scientist
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First CMH grow - JOTI Blue Cheese
ColoradoHighGrower
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Accidental test nug blue dream day 47 315lec (broke lower branch while watering): 
ColoradoHighGrower
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What do you think- one large pot or equivalent smaller pots in same footprint?
Evil-Mobo
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Whats the footprint not a black and white question. Like in flower I use 4x4 trays and run 4 plants per, that's what I like. Other guys prefer to run 9 smaller plants for similar yields, but the footprint makes a difference.
ColoradoHighGrower
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About 0.75×1.5m
xXOnyxXx
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not impressed with the 315cmh .. trich production was up but density and yield where shit ... granted i switched at 30 day mark in flower because my 600hps ballast crapped out .. so they only got 30 days under the 315 but so far i'm disppointed in the cmh .... i usually pull 16+ zips from 600hps ..... got 8 this trip from the 315cmh .. the foot print is like 4 x4 ..... gonna use it a few more runs to see what tweaks i can make to get what i had before in quality ... these buds look like shit LOL loose n fluffy aint it !!! any advice is very welcomed! because that kind of loss is not acceptable, i'm gonna pick up a new hps ballast just to have on hand.
Yodaweed
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A 315CMH isn't gonna replace a 600w hps, and definately not gonna yield the same, if you were disappointed i'd suggest trying a run with only the CMH and lower your footprint to a 3x3 or less.
MichiganMedGrower
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My results too. Better after going 16” over the canopy and sticking to under 3’x3’ footprint.
Awesome results in overlap next to a 600 hps.
I also think multiple 315’s would work better. Say 3 to a 4x8.
So overhyped I actually bought into it this time.
Mines going in a 3x3 veg tent next.