HydroRed's Horticultural Whorehouse

HydroRed

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@HydroRed Hi Bud curious as to what PPM (700 scale?) you are running in veg for your mega crop? I moved up to full strength on my first run and they still seem to light green, I am hesitant to change because I am not familiar with the strains I am running for this batch but I do like a darker green leave then I am getting on all of them. So I figured I would see where you are to compare. Thanks for any input.
I use the 500 scale for ppm. I run on average about 3-5 g per gallon for momma/mature veg plants depending on size and how fast she drinks. My ppm usually come in around 850 or so with tap water at 100 ppm before nutes when I change res or top off. This is with 5g per gallon. Best advice I can give is to feed a tad heavier than you currently are and back off when burnt tips/clawing or dark leaves become evident with that strain. My GG4 momma is a heavy feeder like that and wont even flinch at 6g per gal.
 

Cold$moke

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@HydroRed Hi Bud curious as to what PPM (700 scale?) you are running in veg for your mega crop? I moved up to full strength on my first run and they still seem to light green, I am hesitant to change because I am not familiar with the strains I am running for this batch but I do like a darker green leave then I am getting on all of them. So I figured I would see where you are to compare. Thanks for any input.
Thats going to be very dependant on the strains and ENVIRONMENT AS you should tailor your feed to the environment first then your strains:)
 

HydroRed

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Ah gotcha lol guess I just saw 55 and went NOPE, I'm also considering led strips cuz in another thread was told they get way better coverage and are in the same price range, this is total speculation as I don't really know the penetration and spread of the respective lights but the better spread in the strips makes me think it it could be kind of a t5 situation where it won't penetrate the canopy as well, any insight on that?
No experience with the strips but I see a lot of folks raving about them. Im not familiar with pricepoints with them either. Sorry I couldnt be more help to ya.
 

BleedsGreen

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I use the 500 scale for ppm. I run on average about 3-5 g per gallon for momma/mature veg plants depending on size and how fast she drinks. My ppm usually come in around 850 or so with tap water at 100 ppm before nutes when I change res or top off. This is with 5g per gallon. Best advice I can give is to feed a tad heavier than you currently are and back off when burnt tips/clawing or dark leaves become evident with that strain. My GG4 momma is a heavy feeder like that and wont even flinch at 6g per gal.
Are you weighing it out with a scale? I was using a teaspoon measure and I think my math may have been off too. I am going to change it again tonight and I will weigh the nuts this time. Thanks for the advice guys!
 

Randomestguy

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No experience with the strips but I see a lot of folks raving about them. Im not familiar with pricepoints with them either. Sorry I couldnt be more help to ya.
You good bro, already been a massive help in getting the basics down. I'm considering maybe for 4 but with a higher amperage for better wattage cuz my space would be slightly bigger than yours, I'd just have to get a driver rated for a higher wattage at whatever proper mA I believe, only downside is less efficiency right?
 

HydroRed

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You good bro, already been a massive help in getting the basics down. I'm considering maybe for 4 but with a higher amperage for better wattage cuz my space would be slightly bigger than yours, I'd just have to get a driver rated for a higher wattage at whatever proper mA I believe, only downside is less efficiency right?
The difference in efficiency wil be very miniscule if noticable at all. Pay attention to the temp/max wattage rating on heatsinks though if you up the wattage of the driver and decide on another heatsink than the one I posted a link for. The ones I posted the link to are good to 60 or 70W I believe so if you upped the wattage with an HLG240 driver it would put you right around the max wattage of the heatsink.
 

Randomestguy

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Ye, thank god I had basic electrical engineering drilled into my head at an early age, after getting a handle on the different components involved I'm getting pretty comfortable with cobs, my cheap ass just scraped the grinder so I'll leave math for later but the 50~v cobs may be something to look at I don't remember but I'm hoping I saw them for 15, cuz that'd be 280w at 1.4amps for 4 which seems sexy, about what area does a cob hit? I've been having trouble finding that so I can't really get a feel for what exactly it would cover. :eyesmoke: ain't smoked since planting ma bebes go grinder/bowl scrapebongsmilie
 

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HydroRed

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Ye, thank god I had basic electrical engineering drilled into my head at an early age, after getting a handle on the different components involved I'm getting pretty comfortable with cobs, my cheap ass just scraped the grinder so I'll leave math for later but the 50~v cobs may be something to look at I don't remember but I'm hoping I saw them for 15, cuz that'd be 280w at 1.4amps for 4 which seems sexy, about what area does a cob hit? I've been having trouble finding that so I can't really get a feel for what exactly it would cover. :eyesmoke: ain't smoked since planting ma bebes go grinder/bowl scrapebongsmilie
I dont think there is a spec for area coverage per cob since there are too many variables to consider for gauging in this manner. Wattage, spacial design with cobs, and frame design would have everything to do with that though.
 

Randomestguy

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Ah damn, well I got a sizeable chunk of time before the perpetual cycle lines up at a good point, cuz I'm 2 weeks in, guess I'll just have to dig around and see what's best for a 4x4 without underpowering it while maintaining a decent price, thanks for all the assistance so far, went from ' 'what's a cob' to being able to build one, just gotta fine tune the specs now
 

Little Dog

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@HydroRed! Man, I hate asking dumb questions or taking up anyone's time. But I'm sure that you have the answer. Greatlakes and Origonelite, do they accept cash payment when paying for orders? I can't tell on Greatlakes site if I can or not without signing up first. Haven't checked on Oregonelite. I'm just a little concerned about which US banks to use. I'm sure these two and Greenpoint would be able to supply all my needs. (Greenpoint is fantastic, great service). I just need to pay in cash. I appreciate it. Thanks my friend. Have a good one.

Great thread by the way. Informative to say the least. Thank you.
 
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HydroRed

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@HydroRed! Man, I hate asking dumb questions or taking up anyone's time. But I'm sure that you have the answer. Greatlakes and Origonelite, do they accept cash payment when paying for orders? I can't tell on Greatlakes site if I can or not without signing up first. Haven't checked on Oregonelite. I'm just a little concerned about which US banks to use. I'm sure these two and Greenpoint would be able to supply all my needs. (Greenpoint is fantastic, great service). I just need to pay in cash. I appreciate it. Thanks my friend. Have a good one.

Great thread by the way. Informative to say the least. Thank you.
DO NOT GO TO Oregon Elite Seeds.
Use GreatLakesGenetics or GreenpointSeeds. I 'll send you a pm with details on cash pymnt
 

Randomestguy

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@HydroRed! Man, I hate asking dumb questions or taking up anyone's time. But I'm sure that you have the answer. Greatlakes and Origonelite, do they accept cash payment when paying for orders? I can't tell on Greatlakes site if I can or not without signing up first. Haven't checked on Oregonelite. I'm just a little concerned about which US banks to use. I'm sure these two and Greenpoint would be able to supply all my needs. (Greenpoint is fantastic, great service). I just need to pay in cash. I appreciate it. Thanks my friend. Have a good one.

Great thread by the way. Informative to say the least. Thank you.
I'd throw bitcoin out there cuz other than a small fee (prob less than mailing) that's faster and I'd say more secure. Idk those specifically, but a lot do offer the option.
 

HydroRed

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@shorelineOG Testers are lifting their skirts. 3 of 4 PCK x Sour Grapes are girls so far. 1 of 2 Sour D x Shoreline is a girl.

PCK x Sour Grapes
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Sour D x Shoreline
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Bad Dawg is 4 girls out of 5! I had a double tap root on one of the seeds, and after reading a bit discovered someone had the same thing with more than one of their Black Berry Banana Kush x LBL as well over on Z-labs.
( https://www.z-labs.nl/community/topic/667-blackberry-banana-kush-x-lbl/ )

Black Berry Banana Kush x LBL
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Indacouch

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@shorelineOG Testers are lifting their skirts. 3 of 4 PCK x Sour Grapes are girls so far. 1 of 2 Sour D x Shoreline is a girl.

PCK x Sour Grapes
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Sour D x Shoreline
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Bad Dawg is 4 girls out of 5! I had a double tap root on one of the seeds, and after reading a bit discovered someone had the same thing with more than one of their Black Berry Banana Kush x LBL as well over on Z-labs.
( https://www.z-labs.nl/community/topic/667-blackberry-banana-kush-x-lbl/ )

Black Berry Banana Kush x LBL
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What's up Red. I'm getting the last of my beans sunk for the houses today. Running lots of different stuff this year. I figured id stop in and say what's up since it's been a while. I'm running some more of that GG#4 we were bullshitting about a while back. Except this time it's going in the sealed GH so I can have some monsters. If you ever get bored and wana play with some strains PM me. I've got a few I think you'd like. Good luck with the little ones bro, hope you get some ladies. I've got some BlackB beans to. I haven't had a chance to play with them yet though. After my green houses are done I'm guna see what's up indoors.

GL Red
 
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