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My Blue Orca Haze plants at 7 weeks from seed. I'm going take cuts in a couple days and flower the rooted clones in a few weeks.

I'm a little surprised how Indica dominant they look in veg. I'm definitely not interested in an Indica buzz. Getting nice incense & musk odors in veg from #3 and #8.

Thinking about ordering The One x Punto Rojo. Anyone know of any grows of that strain?
 

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jimihendrix1

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They are all pretty close internode, strong plants, though they can get quite large if given the space, time and light.

The buds, and buzz varies from plant, to plant, and you wont know until theyre done.

We saw a good deal of variation.
Some Columnar, some taller some shorter, but all were similar except the columnar plants. All of the leaves turn Purple/Blue even with no cold

The buds varied a lot. Some plants will have huge resin glands, more leafy like an Indica, while others will still have huge thick buds, they are less leafy, smaller resin heads, and more of a 50/50 Indica/Sativa Buzz.

Weve found both an NL5 pheno, and 1 that has a bubblegum, Vicks Vapo Rub hash taste. Both are really long lasting high. I prefer the BB. Both produce ALOT. 6 plants in 5g containers/Promix BX x 2 1000w Hortilux HPS got 3lbs. 1/1/2 a light, and its far from dialed in. I see 2lbs x 1000w easy.

Only way to see if its Sativa/Indica/50/50 ect, is to flower them out.

If you want a nice Sativa Hybrid, Id suggest the Dominion Skunk. Its on sale at the moment at SHN, though its still not cheap.

Its 75% Sativa, and REEKS, and the leaves are friggin YUGE. I mean really, really big.
The Mother of the Dominion is the POLE CAT Pheno. Some nice photos on Instagram.


 
Hey Mr. James Marshall Hendrix, I have a question for you on the Blue Orca haze. How much do these plants stretch? I was planning to flower them from rooted clones but maybe I need to veg them a while first? Based on how these plants look now, I don't think that height will be an issue like it is with most haze hybrids.
 

jimihendrix1

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No they ( Many of them ) wont stretch like many strains, they are on average very compact, close nodes, and produce big. They do grow fast. Not quite as fast as out Mr Nice SSH, but similar, but they are a different physical structure. They may do 1.5 times stretch. Some more, some less.

Theyre ( Most ) not in the same universe as the NL5/Hz in height. I'm sure since they do have the NL5/Hz in the genes, there are potential types/phenos, that will get bigger than others. The buds are also a lot more dense on the BOH vs NL5/Hz. NL5/Hz did produce like a MoFo though. 1 plant in a 7g container got 12oz.

Out of my 2 friends that are growing it, the more Sativa looking BUDS, is the better plant, and better weed. Terpenes are much better. PLants look alike in veg..
1 pheno is more like Red Wine, and a hint of floral flavor, and the other Sweeter, with more character, and much more lung expansive. Both are very potent.

The resin heads are a lot smaller, and more Sativa like vs the NL5 pheno other buddy has.

Structurally both plants look a lot alike in veg, and only when budded out did the difference in Bud Structure ect become evident.

Sativa pheno is much, much less leafy. NL5 pheno has huge resin glands, other has smaller, but just as many of them.

There is height variation, but unless you really veg them out, they wont be really tall. They do have potential to get big. But youre correct vs they shouldn't be a big problem due to stretching.

I also highly suggest Bending/Training them. They really respond to this, but it has to be started early.

All of the phenos Ive seen are really strong, and stiff when older.
 
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ThermalRider

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"Thinking about ordering The One x Punto Rojo. Anyone know of any grows of that strain?"

I've seen two pics, nice colas of the One x Punta Rojo on Swami's face-book group..

Looks EXACTLY like Colombian Gold, same color and shape. freekn looks like fire..
 
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Gritzman

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"Thinking about ordering The One x Punto Rojo. Anyone know of any grows of that strain?"

I've seen two pics, nice colas of the One x Punta Rojo on Swami's face-book group..

Looks EXACTLY like Colombian Gold, same color and shape. freekn looks like fire..
What is the prologue to Punta Rojo? Looks Swami to me?
 

kona gold

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They are all pretty close internode, strong plants, though they can get quite large if given the space, time and light.

The buds, and buzz varies from plant, to plant, and you wont know until theyre done.

We saw a good deal of variation.
Some Columnar, some taller some shorter, but all were similar except the columnar plants. All of the leaves turn Purple/Blue even with no cold

The buds varied a lot. Some plants will have huge resin glands, more leafy like an Indica, while others will still have huge thick buds, they are less leafy, smaller resin heads, and more of a 50/50 Indica/Sativa Buzz.

Weve found both an NL5 pheno, and 1 that has a bubblegum, Vicks Vapo Rub hash taste. Both are really long lasting high. I prefer the BB. Both produce ALOT. 6 plants in 5g containers/Promix BX x 2 1000w Hortilux HPS got 3lbs. 1/1/2 a light, and its far from dialed in. I see 2lbs x 1000w easy.

Only way to see if its Sativa/Indica/50/50 ect, is to flower them out.

If you want a nice Sativa Hybrid, Id suggest the Dominion Skunk. Its on sale at the moment at SHN, though its still not cheap.

Its 75% Sativa, and REEKS, and the leaves are friggin YUGE. I mean really, really big.
The Mother of the Dominion is the POLE CAT Pheno. Some nice photos on Instagram.


Man that leaf is crazy big!!!
Reminds me of some granddaddy purpose clone that used to be around here, but even large!
 

bostonbob

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Heavy duty...judy.

Hi kids,Gas here....

I am here to correct any genetic historical information and or corrections in the rumor mill.

First off,we love you people,but I am not that fucking swami guy with a bindi and white robe on vice.
That cat bought my Cherry Bomb,bred it and was releasing beans for a minute under the 1979 'Muai Wowie' tone..as well as the flower.

This caused massive confusion and I have since spoke with that team of individuals (swami select) on that particular shadowing coat tail effect from our living soil and coot days..and cherry bomb. They no longer offer the beans AFAIK...but people still think I'm that guy.
I am not.

I am a real cannabis breeder and life long participant and grower in the underground PNW cannabis world. I am 50 years old. I smoke living organic soil flower only. I consider this journey my life's blessing.
I am a deadhead...many grateful dead shows in the late 80s up until jerry died in 95.

I was recently contacted by Mr GreenGenes,as you may know there were rumors of his death. Well,he is very much alive and very pleased that I have kept the original Cherry Bomb in good hands,as he no longer has it.

He has since gifted me the line,and I of course am grateful. We have shared and will continue to share genetics in good faith and friendship.

Dunno what happened with coot,he had a heart attack and fell ill..we lost contact,misinformation and rumor led the parade as usual...as well as those who also sought to make good off our little interruption in the mainstream cannibal-cannabis industry.

We had our own private living organic soil forum for a number of years. It became redundant,as living soil methodology is a sustainable practice. Your grow problems go away..leaving not much to talk about we recently 'shut'er down' due to a lack of funding.

I am an active breeder,I breed constantly. I have many projects and lines I work all the time. My favorite aspect of breeding is bringing out the old landrace characteristics lost in modern polyhybrids.

The nl5haze has indeed been brought to f5. I see no issues in this now IBL as far as a line. It continues to exhibit the traits I selected in the previous generations. I have culled mutants,intersex,and excessively mold susceptible weakling from the line. It has shown increased PM resistance following these principles.
No,I do not enjoy the smoke. I will smoke anything on earth as far as flower with no fear..but it's just a bit much for me. The original warning remains in effect.

Blue Orca Haze is a good clean up job on the rattling effect of nl5haze.
My favorite pre-noon smoke.

I have my own favorites from my lines. Currently 'The Bliss' (Blue Orca x The Black/NL5haze) is my fave afternoon. These are similar to 91 Chemdog type phenotypes,only with a more fuller and longer lasting character in the high. Everyone who puffs my keeper cut exclaims it to be one of the best effects out there today. There is a green and purple phenotype both can be equally devastating..

Recent encounter with the family that bred 'The Black'..it is indeed a Hawaiian and Himalayain..with 90% indica character...adds that fat old indy boost to the other fat old indies quite nicely producing a high cbd/CBN that rock's the dome very well.
Of course there is also The One x The Black/ NL5haze as well.

Anyway,the other types are equally interesting or I wouldn't offer them.
It's all about the medicine and doing things for the future generations of human being.
People over profit,yet my kids have to eat too. There is balance to be held in that reality.
I am not a swami,but I am in an hightened state of mind from cannabis most my days...shama lama bing bang.

Mountain Organics was given The One x NL5haze beans from coot.
Mountain Organics grew out my Nigerian Sunshine F1s..he favored two cuts. After me and another well known grower grew the cuts we rejected them after one run,as my selections and subsequent Nigerian Sunshine line surpass those phenotypes in all areas.
The couple 'The One × nl5haze' he selected fell all over themselves..a structural mess.
This guy is not a breeder.

Moving on..

The 1985 Humboldt Roadkill Skunk x Mexican hybrid (Uraipan region..nearish Guadalajara)
is indeed a IBl. The beans were brought from Humboldt to the region in 1985 given to the natives..and they ran with it. Fats forward to today..and we have a grip of seeds from the result to work with.
The male that did the damage on CB,BO,TO,and Purple Zebra was the absolutely thee fattest male I have ever seen..a monster.


So much more in the works as well..

Working with Brown Dirt Warriors Pakistan x Chocolate Thai breeding stock and have indeed produced some hybrids with The One and The One x Panama...(my Panama).

A well bred line from old imports,brown dirt warrior did a decent job on the paki x choco thai.
lovely old chocolate thai phenos with a nice paki line popping out. I did IBL it but will not release the line for profit out of respect for my fellow breeder.
The poly F1s with The One as a mother should be pretty special..look for those available sometime next year..

No, don't ask me for cuts..of anything!. ..please and thank you.
The cuts I do pass around are available in Grants Pass...from the right sources.

I find it extremendously important that some these lines see the next generations of ethical breeders after me.

I encourage you to experiment with breeding these types to whatever types you see fit. I only ask that my work not be reproduced without permission.

For example...,
Coot asked me to NOT breed The One x NL5haze until he's expired..so then I will. This breeding has been attempted up to 30 times in the last 30 years..with unsatisfied results. I'll give it a shot when the time comes.

The donations for seed mainly go to supporting the environment to fulfill these breedings,but honestly I have yet to pay a full months rent with donations. My two little girls certainly see simple additions to their life from your generosity.

I will do this forever,and I am looking for an apprentice. Many are called,none are chosen. Good ol'merica not producing the passion these days.
Neville used to have an 'eye' along with the nose.. most real breeders do. After looking at thousands upon thousands of plants,a feller can often, on the spot identify origin in any flower handed to he..cept hardcore bottled nute schwilly dispensary nug.

Anywayyyyyyyyy,...
Nigerian Sunshine sold out. It has since found a home in the Afghanistan and Iraq war veterans who suffer from ptsd,as well as others who have not gone into the military. It is a well bred polyhybrid IBL now..love this thing. Beans will be available be again next year.

Kahuna Bud x Cherry Bomb also sold out..no plans on working this line soon enough.

Velvet Rush..unavailable to public

Panama..unavailable to public

Guerrero..unavailable to public

Blue Orca..unavailable to public

The One..unavailable to public

Durban Bubble..cut only..it's out there and surpasses everything around it.

Swami'seed Nigerian Sunshine cut...another beast..it's out there.

Mazar x Guerrero..the 'cann' cut..a true homozygous f1 hybrid from hell...this cut is out there.
..destroys many types.
Mazar x Guerrero F2 beans available from Cann mom..

1986 Northern Lights #5 cut.. those in the know know this...it's out there man...rare,but there~
The path remains endless..as does the work.

oh...and eventually ended up with some tribal Africans from the congo..collected by a dude who went to the Transkei region and a Pweto village.....
So we have The One x Tribal African to play with too..

Thanking this guy jimihendrix1 for the props..interesting becuase I don't even know the guy but through a few small donations to the cause.

Bless up!
Can you tell me what the high was/is like on the Paki x Chocolate Thai?
Thx much
 

SageFromZen

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My Blue Orca Haze plants at 7 weeks from seed. I'm going take cuts in a couple days and flower the rooted clones in a few weeks.

I'm a little surprised how Indica dominant they look in veg. I'm definitely not interested in an Indica buzz. Getting nice incense & musk odors in veg from #3 and #8.

Thinking about ordering The One x Punto Rojo. Anyone know of any grows of that strain?
I've got The One x Punto Rojo seeds and am about to crack a few. I had a few starters that got taken-out by the birds so I was going to replenish with those. Thing is, PR has this tendency to go 18+ weeks so let's hope that the 71' Kandahar/76' Thai Stick in The One quicken her up a bit.

Of course, I just finished building this pvc greenhouse because I'm growing The One x PCK/Chocolate Thai too and who knows how tall those son's o bitches are gonna get. I figured-in a height of 9'6 hoping that'll be enough. I've got them in 10 gallon smart pots.
 

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Bringdemfya

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The Paki x choco thai got huge in light dep..just kept growing flower all the way to the end. The One gots fat too.
 

El Sobilly

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I've got The One x Punto Rojo seeds and am about to crack a few. I had a few starters that got taken-out by the birds so I was going to replenish with those. Thing is, PR has this tendency to go 18+ weeks so let's hope that the 71' Kandahar/76' Thai Stick in The One quicken her up a bit.

Of course, I just finished building this pvc greenhouse because I'm growing The One x PCK/Chocolate Thai too and who knows how tall those son's o bitches are gonna get. I figured-in a height of 9'6 hoping that'll be enough. I've got them in 10 gallon smart pots.
Nice job getting the greenhouse together! I’m glad you’re growing the TO x PR. That sounds delicious. I’ll be glad to hear when it initiates flower and when it finishes here.

I’m starting a bunch of cherry bomb tomorrow. I know that can flower long too. Hopefully it gets to finish well...by Halloween or a little into November. Whatever it is I’m happy to share the info.

I’m gonna start the bliss for something faster. I just hope the buds aren’t too thick. Some of the bliss buds in the pics on gas’s Instagram look awesome, but huge! Thick buds are a big risk here in the fall.
 

Jameshaze999

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IMG_20180423_212701.jpg blue orca haze at 5 weeks. The first run with her. 7 out of10 females this one is the tallest. There is one more almost the same height. So far looking good. She 5 and a half feet . Topped her at forth node 4 weeks veg then to flower .frost comes early.I cant wait .
 

kona gold

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View attachment 4126333 blue orca haze at 5 weeks. The first run with her. 7 out of10 females this one is the tallest. There is one more almost the same height. So far looking good. She 5 and a half feet . Topped her at forth node 4 weeks veg then to flower .frost comes early.I cant wait .
There was no shortage of froston every one I ran.
Very frosty, furry, strain!!
Even though the indica looks to dominate, the sativa is the main influence on the high.
At least in the ones I did.
 

Jameshaze999

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There was no shortage of froston every one I ran.
Very frosty, furry, strain!!
Even though the indica looks to dominate, the sativa is the main influence on the high.
At least in the ones I did.
Even though some plants have different structure the buds are haze buds .
 

SageFromZen

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Nice job getting the greenhouse together! I’m glad you’re growing the TO x PR. That sounds delicious. I’ll be glad to hear when it initiates flower and when it finishes here.

I’m starting a bunch of cherry bomb tomorrow. I know that can flower long too. Hopefully it gets to finish well...by Halloween or a little into November. Whatever it is I’m happy to share the info.

I’m gonna start the bliss for something faster. I just hope the buds aren’t too thick. Some of the bliss buds in the pics on gas’s Instagram look awesome, but huge! Thick buds are a big risk here in the fall.
Aye! You're in the bay too. Cool. The east bay's a little better for supporting sativas in that the peninsula is considerably colder and more damp. I've got Bliss seeds too. Just don't have room to go to big.
 
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