Moflow
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Can't I'm afraid, there's only a small pool of watery blue stuff in bottom of bag
60w Led Lights As Supplimenta Lighting
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JSheeze
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I have very little 5000° compared my 2700° - 3000°, would you recommend even less or none at all?...
- 6 @ 11w (2700°)
- 2 @ 40w (2700°)
[148w red]
- 2 @ 16w (5000°)
[32w blue]
Randomblame
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No, not necessarily!
I thought you had more, but that's only 1/6 and should not have much of an impact. Must be the phenotyp ...
Nevertheless, you could try a few more coolwhites for vegging and all warmwhite for flower next time.
Randomblame
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Yeah, 3000°K can also be used well if you use enough of it.Under 3000k cree cob ive got really tight, squat growth.
It could be because the light is quite close....?
It looks like the plants went oh feck I need to grow out rather than up lol
5000k vegging I've not tried but I have used the GG boards with mixed 3500k + 5000k in vegging stage and flowering with great results.
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You need about 10-12w of pure blue light per square meter for plants to show compact growth. Since 3000°k contains about 10-12% blue, 100w are sufficient for the plants to grow compactly. 70-80w of 3000°K could already be too little, then you would see increased stretching. You could also use 10w blue and 90w red "mono's" and would still get compact growth.
The GGboards have actually ~4.250°k. 4k is a spectrum many growers prefere because it will produce massive growth and have enough red for a good yield. It also helped to control stretching!
I am not surprised that these boards work so well. I only wish the 3,5 and 5k diodes were mixed and not distributed to 2 sides.
Moflow
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Yes if the gg boards were blended it would be nice.
Maybe it's harder , more costly to do this.?
Swings and roundabouts I suppose as I believe they are probably designed to be used with 2 drivers to enable you to have more 5k ratio for vegging then ramping up the 3.5k in flowering mode.
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Randomblame
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Yes, or their pick-and-place robot only has room for one roll of LEDs to take from..
I believe the Gerber files for the ggboards were made from VW. If they would have mixed rows of 3.5 and 5k it would be still possible to use 2 separate drivers, but therefor the Gerber file needs to be tweaked..
Maybe in gen.2..?
I believe the Gerber files for the ggboards were made from VW. If they would have mixed rows of 3.5 and 5k it would be still possible to use 2 separate drivers, but therefor the Gerber file needs to be tweaked..
Maybe in gen.2..?
Moflow
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I like to call them Mk1 boards Mk2 Etc lol
Mk1, solder your connection, Mk2 wago connectors, Mk3 3k + 5k, I think....
Anyhow, you make some good points re tweaking for future designs.
It's probably down to keeping costs at a respectable price.
Long live DIY I say
Assume mixing COBS provide similar results ?
JSheeze
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Anyone ever bent their colas horizonal so more light reaches the growth in the middle of the cola's? One side would be starved for light, but the other side would be increased more than standing straight?
I bent about half of mine horizontal the day I was going to chop (day 51 of 12/12) and going to let them grow for a week or so longer, maybe
I bent about half of mine horizontal the day I was going to chop (day 51 of 12/12) and going to let them grow for a week or so longer, maybe
Randomblame
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If the mites have already reached the flowers, throw it away!
At least try to wash it off and check it with a magnifying glass!
It's not a cockroach, but do you really want to smoke bugs, Cheech?
At least try to wash it off and check it with a magnifying glass!
It's not a cockroach, but do you really want to smoke bugs, Cheech?
Randomblame
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BTW, I have often done horizontal bending, but you have to start much earlier to make it work.
Used the technique mainly among CFL's with high-stretching varieties like Nevil's-Haze!
But CFL days are gone, today the effective range is much larger.
Used the technique mainly among CFL's with high-stretching varieties like Nevil's-Haze!
But CFL days are gone, today the effective range is much larger.
JSheeze
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Lol, na not in the buds, those came from a few leaves that I left (small, from a little lower stem) so I could check em out when my scope arrived.
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What you think about the trichs?
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Randomblame
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Not much longer! Most of them looks already cloudy.
It depends on what you personally prefer. Early harvest results more in an up-high, late into a couchlock.
Many would already whet their scissors ...
JSheeze
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Anyone have any experience with a neem soil drench? I've read that neem is systemic, so wouldn't that take care of my soil gnats (soil drench) and then any sucking mites (broadmite, spidermite, thrip, aphid) after the roots soak it up and send up into the plant?
What about applying neem oil to the stems with the attempt to get it to soak in and transfer up the plant into infested regions?
I bought some and have been drenching soil on my new veging plants with no noticeable adverse effects yet (3x drench in 10 days) and was going to hit them with eagle 20 or forbid right before the switch to 12/12, while at the same time cutting the chemical fertilizer and neem drench, and replacing with molasses and no neem? I have cats and sometimes they get out and I think I'll always have to deal with pests due to my lifestyle and abreakdown of quarantine in my grow room..
New vegging plant had some twisted goofy growth, here some pics of the underside of the goofy leaf, any broadmites???...
What about applying neem oil to the stems with the attempt to get it to soak in and transfer up the plant into infested regions?
I bought some and have been drenching soil on my new veging plants with no noticeable adverse effects yet (3x drench in 10 days) and was going to hit them with eagle 20 or forbid right before the switch to 12/12, while at the same time cutting the chemical fertilizer and neem drench, and replacing with molasses and no neem? I have cats and sometimes they get out and I think I'll always have to deal with pests due to my lifestyle and abreakdown of quarantine in my grow room..
New vegging plant had some twisted goofy growth, here some pics of the underside of the goofy leaf, any broadmites???...
Randomblame
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I like Neem-Cake in my soil, but oil should also work.
I would continue the treatment for 2 weeks and repeat again two weeks later. Additionally I would use diatom earth. You may dissolve some of it in water and spray it. As soon as it dries, the mites will be killed.
But remember to wash it off after a few hours, it will eventually clog the stomata if you do not. Put some Diatom Earth also on the substrate surface it helps against fungus gnats.
And about pets, bann them at least out of your grow room! They have no business there and could be the cause of your problems.
Another reason could be the soil mix. Do you mix your own and use dirt from outside? It's the best way to get infestination by unwanted insects! Buy a good potting soil, that's half the battle! If you still want to use your own mix, heat it up to 65-70°C for sterilization(oven/microwave). It works and the soil flora will rebuild quickly if you use a molasses containing fertilizer or products like MammothP or other beneficial bacteria.
I would continue the treatment for 2 weeks and repeat again two weeks later. Additionally I would use diatom earth. You may dissolve some of it in water and spray it. As soon as it dries, the mites will be killed.
But remember to wash it off after a few hours, it will eventually clog the stomata if you do not. Put some Diatom Earth also on the substrate surface it helps against fungus gnats.
And about pets, bann them at least out of your grow room! They have no business there and could be the cause of your problems.
Another reason could be the soil mix. Do you mix your own and use dirt from outside? It's the best way to get infestination by unwanted insects! Buy a good potting soil, that's half the battle! If you still want to use your own mix, heat it up to 65-70°C for sterilization(oven/microwave). It works and the soil flora will rebuild quickly if you use a molasses containing fertilizer or products like MammothP or other beneficial bacteria.
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JSheeze
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Back in the day we woulda called this chron 
, anticipating the next grow with no bugs
Also, because they were so cheap ($2.99/), I bought an order of the "cheap Chinese" E26 25w LED 6500k and the 6 that I'm using (24/7) to veg are all still working, 2mo in so far.. I'll update when they go out..
, anticipating the next grow with no bugs Also, because they were so cheap ($2.99/), I bought an order of the "cheap Chinese" E26 25w LED 6500k and the 6 that I'm using (24/7) to veg are all still working, 2mo in so far.. I'll update when they go out..
See many pushing the 3100k 315cmh agro light spectrum !!
nfhiggs
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IMO, chasing spectrum is not really worth it. Just feed them as much broad spectrum light at they can eat. 3500K is good for both veg and flower.
Randomblame
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If the bulbs really take 20-30 watts it should be more than enough light for good growth and you should miss nothing.
Many have used 6500k CFL's or MH for vegging I see no reason why it should not work with LED too. Results should be nice and bushy with short stagged nodes, beefy leaves, a thick stem and lots of thick branches. Just the way we like it.