Clogged carbon filter

driel

Well-Known Member
I'm curious if there's a way to clean a filter that is seemingly clogged. I notice the air flow is down enough that my humidity has been steadily creeping up in my tent. When I take the filter off the fan works as it should. The filter is nearing about 1 year of use but despite the lower CFM, there isn't any odor yet. So is there an effective way to clean it out to improve airflow or am I better off getting a new filter ASAP?
 

coreywebster

Well-Known Member
I replace mine every 18 month to two years to be sure i dont get busted but never seen a noticable reduction in airflow.
But you can wash the prefilter and vacuum the filter with a nosel (when turned off obviously)
 

eyderbuddy

Well-Known Member
I replace mine every 18 month to two years to be sure i dont get busted but never seen a noticable reduction in airflow.
But you can wash the prefilter and vacuum the filter with a nosel (when turned off obviously)
What kind of filter do you use?
 

Beachwalker

Well-Known Member
You might check the fan? Because I've never noticed mine to reduce air flow either? ..mine's old and maybe it's not taking the scent out quite as well, & I agree with the 18mo. to 2 years if you have a reverse flange. I'm about to order a new one myself before I open the windows for this summer season
 

OldMedUser

Well-Known Member
I got a used filter off my buddy and it is right plugged up too. They were blowing the tent air into it rather than drawing it through and the inside is all plugged. When I tried to use it the proper way I got next to no air flow.

The only way I can see to make it usable again is to drill out the pop rivets that hold the top on, remove all the carbon, bake that in the oven to cook off the stink molecules then refill it and either use self-tapping screws or new pop rivets to put it back together.

I went out and bought a much better filter that is still in the box but will be needing one soon as the plants got flipped on 4/20 and it's gonna get stinky in there soon. I bought an oversized one so it should last a few years. For $170 it better. :)

CanFilter.jpg

:peace:
 

OldMedUser

Well-Known Member
Nice filter, the one I'm buying is only 19 inches
I run my 440cfm fan at half speed so that filter should do a great job. Store owner said to leave the top half of the plastic on the filter until smell starts getting through then take that off and wrap the bottom half with plastic wrap to use the fresh top half. Sounds like a plan to me.

If vegging in there I'll take the filter off so the aging fan doesn't have to work so hard and the filter lasts longer. The fan already rattles a bit but I have a 6" computer type fan that moves a lot of air and some duct fittings to turn it into an inline fan I can use if it dies. A nice Vortex type S is what I really really want but it can wait. :)

Wife just took our kitty to the vet today to get her fixed so there goes my fan money! :D

:peace:
 

OldMedUser

Well-Known Member
Air compressor with air gun attachment with 120lbs of pressure blows them out really easily.
Really just going to force the surface dirt deeper into the carbon tho. If they've had the sock on all the time and plug up then the ability of the carbon to absorb stink is exhausted and either needs refilling with fresh carbon or the carbon needs to be cooked in a hot oven to drive it out.

Cooked out carbon won't last as long as fresh but better than nothing. Refilling slowly with lots of tapping to make sure the carbon is tightly in place is needed and it will likely not fill right to the top again without adding more. A strip of foam rubber around the top of the carbon so you have to squish the top on will keep the carbon firm. Or some added activated carbon. Any voids will let the stink through.

:peace:
 

CannaBruh

Well-Known Member
You can machine wash/dry the pre-filter if it's clogged/dirty, once the filter itself gets bogged down it's done its job and time for a new one, or you can mess about with it but I'd suggest new if it's anything but cleaning the pre-filter.
 

booms111

Well-Known Member
Really just going to force the surface dirt deeper into the carbon tho. If they've had the sock on all the time and plug up then the ability of the carbon to absorb stink is exhausted and either needs refilling with fresh carbon or the carbon needs to be cooked in a hot oven to drive it out.

Cooked out carbon won't last as long as fresh but better than nothing. Refilling slowly with lots of tapping to make sure the carbon is tightly in place is needed and it will likely not fill right to the top again without adding more. A strip of foam rubber around the top of the carbon so you have to squish the top on will keep the carbon firm. Or some added activated carbon. Any voids will let the stink through.

:peace:
It completely blows through the filter cleaning off all the dust that makes it through pre filter. You would be surprised how much dirt/dust and carbon dust come out of one. You get real nice and dirty from all the black carbon dust. I've done it a few times in past. It doesn't renew the carbon but does unclog the filter like OP asked about. I have 20 or so phresh filters and a few 100lb can filters sitting around that are used up, wish there was a way to renew the carbon or at least a way to throw them away without security concerns.
 
Last edited:

OldMedUser

Well-Known Member
It completely blows through the filter cleaning off all the dust that makes it through pre filter. You would be surprised how much dirt/dust and carbon dust come out of one. You get real nice and dirty from all the black carbon dust. I've done it a few times in past. It doesn't renew the carbon but does unclog the filter like OP asked about. I have 20 or so phresh filters and a few 100lb can filters sitting around that are used up, wish there was a way to renew the carbon or at least a way to throw them away without security concerns.
For sure it's going to blast a lot of crud thru the carbon but the way carbon works with millions of microscopic pores it doesn't clean those out so other than breathing better it won't clean the stink better.

You never bought bulk carbon and refilled any filters? Get a new filter for less than half price that way.

I've never really had a filter on my grow room the 16 years since I bought this house. We live on a small acreage 10 miles from a small town and my closest neighbour is a half mile away. During the coldest months the air just doesn't move sometimes and the whole yard stinks. A few years ago the wife started selling eggs so we get strangers knocking on the door and sometimes the smell at the front door is really noticeable so I figured I better get a good filter when I had some extra cash last summer. Blew a couple grand on grow goodies.

One thing I've been thinking about using that old filter for is making a dry sift tumbler out of it. Got all sorts of electric motors, rollers etc laying around the shop and mad DIY skills so if I lined the inside of the empty filter with the right screen I could shovel the sugar leaves in there and come back to a pile of kief. Hand screening takes so damn long.

There must be someplace you could dispose of those old filters. No highway-side garbage cans? Toss into a dumpster some dark and stormy night? Put them in garbage bags and take to the local dump? I'd find some place that doesn't leave a mess for others to clean up. I got a dozen old HID lights need getting rid of too.

:peace:
 

booms111

Well-Known Member
For sure it's going to blast a lot of crud thru the carbon but the way carbon works with millions of microscopic pores it doesn't clean those out so other than breathing better it won't clean the stink better.

You never bought bulk carbon and refilled any filters? Get a new filter for less than half price that way.

I've never really had a filter on my grow room the 16 years since I bought this house. We live on a small acreage 10 miles from a small town and my closest neighbour is a half mile away. During the coldest months the air just doesn't move sometimes and the whole yard stinks. A few years ago the wife started selling eggs so we get strangers knocking on the door and sometimes the smell at the front door is really noticeable so I figured I better get a good filter when I had some extra cash last summer. Blew a couple grand on grow goodies.

One thing I've been thinking about using that old filter for is making a dry sift tumbler out of it. Got all sorts of electric motors, rollers etc laying around the shop and mad DIY skills so if I lined the inside of the empty filter with the right screen I could shovel the sugar leaves in there and come back to a pile of kief. Hand screening takes so damn long.

There must be someplace you could dispose of those old filters. No highway-side garbage cans? Toss into a dumpster some dark and stormy night? Put them in garbage bags and take to the local dump? I'd find some place that doesn't leave a mess for others to clean up. I got a dozen old HID lights need getting rid of too.

:peace:
I use to build my filters back in late 90s early 2000s but they don't get the carbon as compacted as the store bought ones. I still have some carbon i bought off ebay way back then, i used alot of it on my aquarium filters before i got a non carbon filtration system. Store bought filters work so much better and the prices don't bother me for piece of mind.

Don't get me started on HID lights, I could have a bowling alley with how many old 1k bulbs I have sitting around. I throw nothing away grow related out of fear.
 

OldMedUser

Well-Known Member
Carbon for water is different than that for air too tho.

I'm glad I didn't toss out my lights yet. Had a 15 year old SunMaster conversion bulb I thought had died after a flowering session and a half but test fired it in my 1000W MH ballast and it fired right up. Much less intensity than the Hortilux one I bought a couple years ago but nice to have a spare. Cost me $140 back in 2002. The Hort I saw retail for $299 here in Canada and I got mine a year and a half ago for $175. It's a lot hotter than the SunMaster too tho but reads way higher on my light meter for intensity.

Just using a Hort knock-off atm. Light EnerG Super HPS. Lot of blue in it so after the stretch may switch to either the SunMaster or the big Hort Ultra Ace. Both made to run off my old magnetic MH ballast. Got a 1000W MH/HPS magnetic used for $70 last summer and it works fine too.

:peace:
 

eyderbuddy

Well-Known Member
Really just going to force the surface dirt deeper into the carbon tho. If they've had the sock on all the time and plug up then the ability of the carbon to absorb stink is exhausted and either needs refilling with fresh carbon or the carbon needs to be cooked in a hot oven to drive it out.

Cooked out carbon won't last as long as fresh but better than nothing. Refilling slowly with lots of tapping to make sure the carbon is tightly in place is needed and it will likely not fill right to the top again without adding more. A strip of foam rubber around the top of the carbon so you have to squish the top on will keep the carbon firm. Or some added activated carbon. Any voids will let the stink through.

:peace:
What material is used for refilling? I tried using the carbon they sell for fish tanks, but it didn't work.
 

OldMedUser

Well-Known Member
What material is used for refilling? I tried using the carbon they sell for fish tanks, but it didn't work.
Hydro stores usually sell bulk carbon for filters. Might be better to find it online. The Australian virgin carbon is considered the best. Not cheap but there should be enough for 3 or 4 refills in a bag.

You want to fill a bit at a time and tap on the shell a lot to settle it in then add another inch or two and keep tapping. They use vibrating tables or something to fill them at the factory.

I'm going to have to hook mine up pretty soon. Plants are budding up nicely but I'm noticing any odor yet.

:peace:
 
Top