Same old BUST THEM AS YOU GO! PRO2 BS

gb123

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Municipal marijuana rules will be unenforceable
This year’s 4-20 festivities in Canada were theoretically the last to be held as an act of defiance over marijuana prohibition.

Yet when recreational pot use is finally made legal by the federal government, a move expected sometime at the end of summer or perhaps a little later, many Canadians who enjoy consuming cannabis will be scarcely more free to indulge in their mind-altering substance of choice.

In many municipalities, local councils have enacted bylaws that would outlaw marijuana use in most settings, apart from private homes.

And where such rules haven’t been adopted, health officials and others are pushing hard for such restrictive rules to be adopted.

Clearly, such limitations at the city level are not nearly as harsh as having pot use governed under the Criminal Code, but tight municipal controls on consumption rules fly in the face of what is supposed to be an agenda of liberalization.

There are abstract, conceptual problems with such regulations.

To start, the contradictory messaging is problematic. Canadians will be free to purchase cannabis but many will have nowhere to use it.

While cities have been quick to regulate where marijuana stores can open and how far they must be from their brethren, liquor stores or schools, they’ve been slower to include lounges and other gathering places into their plans.

People will also be divided into different classes of citizens depending of whether they have the good fortune of living in a single-family dwelling.

While using marijuana in multi-family dwellings is theoretically allowed, many buildings are already designated as non-smoking when it comes to tobacco use. I can’t imagine there’d be exceptions made for smoking weed.

It’s therefore very likely people who prefer to live in an apartment-style setting — or don’t have the means to live in a standalone house of some kind — will be more affected by city pot restrictions than those who live in a typical single-family dwelling.

Then you have a raft of practical problems.

Many marijuana users do so for medical reasons and, in some jurisdictions, would be exempt from municipal regulations forbidding outdoor pot use.

Leaving aside the apparent ease with which such an exemption can be obtained, we are faced with the possibility of police and bylaw officers stopping people on the street to check their credentials and medical licensing status.

Things will get even more complicated once edible marijuana products become legal. How are law-enforcement types to distinguish pot pastry and cannabis candy from their not-so-special counterparts?

Then you have problems related to vaping. I can’t think of an obvious way to tell the difference between a cannabis vaping device and a tobacco vaping device.

There’s the distinct possibility of people being randomly stopped for verification because of these issues.

Of course, the opposite could also be true: police and bylaw officers might have more important things to do than policing pot rules.

In Calgary for instance, the head of the police union has already said there is no way overburdened frontline officers will participate in any kind of crackdown on public marijuana use.

And then there’s the biggest issue of all: Despite being currently illegal, pot use in public is already happening anyway and has been going on for years. This is not going to stop because cities have passed new bylaws to regulate cannabis consumption.

While municipalities have put in place marijuana use rules with the good intention of trying to keep pot smoke away from those of us who’d rather not be near it, the result is a largely ineffective bureaucratic haze that’s very likely to be ignored.
 

gb123

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It's gonna be so much fun having to school the cops about my right to medicate where ever and when ever I choose. Seriously though, I smoke everywhere now and nobody has ever said anything.
As much as I would love to think that was true all round...It certainly wont be...the way they are going with this...
its gonna be worse!
 

GroErr

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There's another side to this discussion if you put aside the stupidity of the subject and why we're even having to discuss it. Think opportunity, as in vape/smoke lounges, particularly in the city where you have the highest concentration of nimby's...
 

VIANARCHRIS

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As much as I would love to think that was true all round...It certainly wont be...the way they are going with this...
its gonna be worse!
I don't think so...no different from booze laws, drinking in public, etc. The most that happens is a fine. MMJ patients are exempt - cops will eventually get tired of wasting their time. It'll be a shit show until we normalize cannabis use among the anti-weed crowd - shouldn't take long, most of those drunks are dying off. lol
 

gwheels

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Do not underestimate the stupidity of the people making the cannabis laws. It is limitless.
Look at all of the extra law enforcement....why exactly? cannabis has been around since prehistoric times. But instead of spending the resources better on texting while driving on the highway or going after meth crack and heroin weed will be the evil substance they believe it is.

I believe I was wrong. Legalization may be the dumbest thing that ever happened given the present law makers that have never smoked a bunch of doobs watching netflix ever.

It is pretty disgusting what they are doing. But a 4 plant limit is great. If it has to be reported that you are growing 4 I am going all sea of green baby. Fuck reporting anything.
 

gb123

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I don't think so...no different from booze laws, drinking in public, etc. The most that happens is a fine. MMJ patients are exempt - cops will eventually get tired of wasting their time. It'll be a shit show until we normalize cannabis use among the anti-weed crowd - shouldn't take long, most of those drunks are dying off. lol
Booze laws are fairly concrete and dont leave much for interpretation
These cannabis laws sure do though!
my point..
Fuck reporting anything.
what they are afraid of and so they pry people out of the woodwork with LIES and complete utter BS just to have them where they need them..
 

Novabudd

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Do not underestimate the stupidity of the people making the cannabis laws. It is limitless.
Look at all of the extra law enforcement....why exactly? cannabis has been around since prehistoric times. But instead of spending the resources better on texting while driving on the highway or going after meth crack and heroin weed will be the evil substance they believe it is.

I believe I was wrong. Legalization may be the dumbest thing that ever happened given the present law makers that have never smoked a bunch of doobs watching netflix ever.

It is pretty disgusting what they are doing. But a 4 plant limit is great. If it has to be reported that you are growing 4 I am going all sea of green baby. Fuck reporting anything.
No fuckin way im reporting my "4". Or anything else.
I've also noticed that in the nearest town businesses gave started posting "No vaping" signs along with the "No Smoking " signs. New Regs and Bylaws in this county will severely dictate where you can twist n burn. Bunch of Swollen Assholes making rules.
 

mojoganjaman

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It's gonna be so much fun having to school the cops about my right to medicate where ever and when ever I choose. Seriously though, I smoke everywhere now and nobody has ever said anything.

I dunno...maybe its just my style....I smoke at home and never poke the bear...sure...you can mess with them...but they kin mess with you if you piss them off....they have a bigger hammer...but if loud and proud is your thing....go for it...be safe chris




mojo
 

VIANARCHRIS

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I dunno...maybe its just my style....I smoke at home and never poke the bear...sure...you can mess with them...but they kin mess with you if you piss them off....they have a bigger hammer...but if loud and proud is your thing....go for it...be safe chris




mojo
I don't know if it's "loud and proud" so much as "I don't give a shit" and a general dislike of authority. A lot has to do with where you live I guess, but it's part of the culture here and the cops are accepting of it. I'm respectful if there are others around, but if I feel the need to smoke a joint, I'm gonna get it done. lol
 

mojoganjaman

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I don't know if it's "loud and proud" so much as "I don't give a shit" and a general dislike of authority. A lot has to do with where you live I guess, but it's part of the culture here and the cops are accepting of it. I'm respectful if there are others around, but if I feel the need to smoke a joint, I'm gonna get it done. lol

I live in Osoyoos BC...I know how it works....but piss a cop off and he'll be pulling you over all the time...cops here don't need a reason...random stops are legal...I take coco caps in the morning...by noon or 1 pm I'm done running into town etc....then its dooby time...but I'm a bit of a hermit...comfortable to spend time with myself...be safe budz!!!!



mojo
 

VIANARCHRIS

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I'm on a Gulf island with 4000 residents and 4 cops - 1 per shift. They don't pull anyone over for no reason. Trust me, I know what you're saying - I know when to pick my battles, but the culture is such here that I don't anticipate much enforcement. They've allowed a dispensary to operate freely selling to anyone over 19 for more than a year. And I always B-safe! 55 years and not so much as a speeding ticket....
 

gb123

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I don't know if it's "loud and proud" so much as "I don't give a shit" and a general dislike of authority. A lot has to do with where you live I guess, but it's part of the culture here and the cops are accepting of it. I'm respectful if there are others around, but if I feel the need to smoke a joint, I'm gonna get it done. lol
Excuse me SON.yer medical right?

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  • A new 90-day Administrative Driving Prohibition for any driver who police reasonably believe operated a motor vehicle while affected by a drug or by a combination of a drug and alcohol, based on analysis of a bodily substance or an evaluation by a specially trained police drug recognition expert.


You can just hand me over your license for the 90 right now.
The laws the law. No need to argue anything... ;)
 

VIANARCHRIS

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Excuse me SON.yer medical right?

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  • A new 90-day Administrative Driving Prohibition for any driver who police reasonably believe operated a motor vehicle while affected by a drug or by a combination of a drug and alcohol, based on analysis of a bodily substance or an evaluation by a specially trained police drug recognition expert.


You can just hand me over your license for the 90 right now.
The laws the law. No need to argue anything... ;)
Let me tell you a true story. About three months ago around the corner from my house a local heroin addict nodded off while driving his van, crossed a double solid and hit a local firefighter who was jogging - and killed him. He has not been charged with any crime. There is no way to prove impairment by drugs in most cases and particularly with a chronic cannabis smoker. There will be a bunch of hero cops in the cities that will cost the taxpayer millions in court and legal fees, but not here. I have never been stopped anywhere as an adult while driving high. This will be the first part of the legislation to hit the SCoC.
 

gb123

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They make the law.
you break it
you get charged until its done in court,,because they know yer medical and impaired with the new laws..
No argument from them... lol

seems fucked up enough for me really ..
 

VIANARCHRIS

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I get that they CAN do it, I'm just not convinced they are going to do it HERE. This island would come to a standstill We only have one taxi. lol
they know yer medical and impaired
How would they ever 'know' I'm impaired? I function 100% at work all day and interact with people and I smoke continuously. Nobody can tell unless they smell it on me. I will be just as high when I explain to the judge that I was not impaired!
 

gb123

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thats just it....they dont care either way.
They can do what they wish.. :)

90 days cause I believe yer impaired regardless of anything you say or do.. lol
Its rightly fucked up dude :wall:

"Doroshenko was particularly critical of giving police the power to order a 90-day driving prohibition on the spot.

In the proposed legislation, police would be able to cite a driver for impaired driving based on a new definition"

I know yer not impaired..its "the others" that dont quite get that..
 
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