Cool man.
Even throw some worm castings in the mix as a conditioner.
Happy growing op.
Just experiment a little.
Weird discoloration starting
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Even throw some worm castings in the mix as a conditioner.
Happy growing op.
Just experiment a little.
Oh, I thought you were joking about "Middle East".
Hmmm, there's bound to be someone here from Germany with a better idea, and I'll do my good deed for the day and have a search around to see what I can find as there has to be something you can get that's a bit "softer".
If nothing else then someone else might get some useful info.
Ok, let's take it further.
Hunted around on the Plantaflor Germany site and found that most of their different composts could well be a bit hot with NPK fertilisers at 18-10-20, BUT I did find two which should, in theory, be gentler
http://plantaflor.de/en/products/fruit-substrates/organic-blueberry-substrate.html
http://plantaflor.de/en/products/fruit-substrates/organic-raspberry-substrate.html
and there's a good chance that someone here could know enough to say if any of the following would be gentler and more suitable than "hotter" mixes.
http://plantaflor.de/en/products/organic-substrates.html
My own personal view is "weaker is better" as you can always add things but it's near impossible to remove them.
Hunted around on the Plantaflor Germany site and found that most of their different composts could well be a bit hot with NPK fertilisers at 18-10-20, BUT I did find two which should, in theory, be gentler
http://plantaflor.de/en/products/fruit-substrates/organic-blueberry-substrate.html
http://plantaflor.de/en/products/fruit-substrates/organic-raspberry-substrate.html
and there's a good chance that someone here could know enough to say if any of the following would be gentler and more suitable than "hotter" mixes.
http://plantaflor.de/en/products/organic-substrates.html
My own personal view is "weaker is better" as you can always add things but it's near impossible to remove them.
crispytriceps
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Thanks a lot for your support! Really appreciated. The one available here is Plantaflor SAB Universal Substrate.
Here is the update on my seedling: seems the discoloration is turning to browning which indeed might be a nute burn.
Also, here’s a picture of the distance from the lights, it has 5 32W CFLs one of them is warm light, others are daylights
crispytriceps
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Oh, I also forgot to mention that the only organic one here is biobizz the rest is prefertilized even plantaflor..
To my eye, it is maybe too hot compost because I had the same happen to me and when I transplanted into something "softer" she bounced right back.
Is there absolutely nothing else you can find out there, because I assume that all sorts of things are legally grown where you are so I would assume that there has to be other stuff out there. I think the favourite "excuse" is that you're growing tomatoes so a couple of questions along that line could give you the result you wish, but just make sure you do have some tomato, or whatever, plants so nosy people see nothing suspicious.
crispytriceps
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Thank you all for the support! Well let me see what I can get my hands on
You're saying that after I've cleared 60mg of Valium to calm me down after someone buggered me around, most people can't think of talking vaguely sensible after that!
You know your stuff.
I wasn't calling you out.
My suggestion was to take your advice.
On a side note.
Valium is great shit
Never considered you were calling me anything, I saw something I experienced myself thanks to my own stupidity because of not reading labels and ended up with something that looked sicker than his sprout and gave my opinion based on my own, admittedly low, experience.
I can only do that and I understand the choice is to transplant or flush the bollocks out of the dirt to reduce the ripeness and on a plant that young then severe flushing will not end well.
Given the news I got earlier the valium has calmed me and made me more rational so am more likely to be able to give what I think is good advice when compared to the mood I was in, so it ain't all bad even though I've never had to pop so many pills to get my anger down before.
I can only do that and I understand the choice is to transplant or flush the bollocks out of the dirt to reduce the ripeness and on a plant that young then severe flushing will not end well.
Given the news I got earlier the valium has calmed me and made me more rational so am more likely to be able to give what I think is good advice when compared to the mood I was in, so it ain't all bad even though I've never had to pop so many pills to get my anger down before.
Honestly, in the latest pic, she seems to be growing out of it, doesn't look to be getting worse.
Just on a side note..the cfl's you have hanging, you'd be better off hanging them horizontally as oppose to vertically. Cfl's emit less light through their bottoms than their sides!
crispytriceps
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Oh okay! I’ll see how I can turn them horizontally
crispytriceps
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Do you think it would be better to get household regular led bulbs and replace those CFLs? Since it would be very difficult to hang them horizontally.
I am getting Led grow lights in about 15 days but meanwhile should I replace them with the regular philips led bulbs? If so, how many led Watts would it need and how far should I place the bulbs? Thanks a lot!
I still have a 14.2w (100w equivalent) 6500K deglobed replacement hanging around 6 inches above my now 11-day old plant with no issues whatsoever for the plant, the following pic was from yesterday when she was 10 days out of the ground. I started off at about 10 inches when she broke ground and let her grow to the point where she was happy and stopped stretching and put the width on (Now a steady 3.5" tall and over 6" in width, and looking as happy as a pig in shit).
You'll have to experiment depending on the bulb, the "colour", and so on as I'm led to believe that the "warmer", as in 2500-3500K colour range, will mean the plant will give more stretch than the higher 5500-6500K range. A 60w equivalent would likely need to be a little closer than a 120w equivalent, as an example, so it all depends on what you get your paws on.
For little baby plants, look at one per plant in my opinion, then there's less chance of them stretching to the side to try and reach a "shared" light source, but definitely pop the globe off as then ALL the light goes where you want it as it is not diffused and scattered by the globe, you're looking at at least an extra 10% in available light and it being directed to where it's more useful.
PS. Do NOT believe any nonsense about there being any sort of electric shock danger from deglobed bulbs. One imbecile tried to tell me there was a risk even after I pushed said replacement directly onto the palm of my hand and you can see from the other pic below that there is absolutely no danger. It's a little warm, but there's absolutely no danger of electric shock even using our 230vac 50Hz mains electricity system
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crispytriceps
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Oh okay! So one 14.2W per plant is enough?:O because it only emits around 1500lumens I thought the plant needs 10,000. So no need to add 5 x 32W like with CFL am I right?
When I see your little babies, one per plant is enough as you can see with the pic I posted. I usually go 2-3 weeks, and can get a squat little mofo that's over a foot wide and then move her under better lighting.
Once she's bigger you'll need the extra light, obviously, but right now I'd be happy just to use the single replacement for 2 weeks or so as you can see how that's gone with me with the White Haze pictured, and the following pic was a Northern Lights under the same bulb at 2 weeks before I got heavy handed and broke the bugger. I've found that young plants are happy as hell with the single bulb and REALLY love the more "blue" 6500K "daylight" bulb, but, obviously, you'll need more light after 2 or 3 weeks under the more direct light from the replacement.
That's my experience, I ain't no expert, but it works for me with seedlings and young plants.
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baxbax
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soil is a bit hot for seedlings , but it dosent look that bad , be careful dont feed anything until your plant use all nutrients in soil , it should be fine if u dont use fertilizer , if u can water with r/o ( because of zero nutrients it has ) go for it , I give u a suggestion for your light : if its only plant and u use these lots of light sources for this seedling remove the other cfl's and put just one cfl at 1 cm distance from your seedling , as seedling grow always check 1 cm distance from leaves , even 0.5 cm is ok if you can manage it be careful leaves dont touch cfl , until it grows and need more light source . simple
Beachwalker
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I don't use those lights but I've seen people who do turn a few on at first, and then turn a couple more on as the plant grows ?
-good luck!