Kegstand420
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Those certainly don’t look to bad to me frank what strain are they and what do you have them under for a light
Viparspectra thoughts from people that have used them
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Frank Nitty
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Auto skunk and NL Big Bud auto...8 cfls, and 1 roleadro 300w clear led... it's supposed to be an upgrade on the old ones, instead of blurpie it's like cree lighting... check it out on Amazon
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Kegstand420
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Well they certainly look like they are doing decent so far my friend hoping mine is gonna finish up by the end of the month can’t wait it’s starting to stink something bad and getting super frosty moderately impressed but I would like to see how my feminized ones do some of My other girls have over 15 tops on them
Frank Nitty
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15?!?!?!!! Daaammmm! I've got an og kush that I don't know if it is a male or female that has about that many... I want to top and train my autos but I'm afraid I will fuck them up...
Kegstand420
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I’m working on some low stress training with an auto right now that I got from my local dispensary topping could be done right but I feel like it would have to be on one of the longer flowering varieties of autos that way it had the extra time to recover my advice would be run these ones normal then get the same strain and try topping them once you kind of know what to expect
No1up
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Mmmm kind of turns me on..
Frank Nitty
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My thoughts exactly... Photos I would do it no hesitation, but I don't know anything about autos, at least not enough to be trying to do something I'm not sure about...
Kegstand420
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This is that same auto ten days before the other picture waiting is a key game in only ten days it really started ripening
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Frank Nitty
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Mmmmm,me tooooo!!!!
Puff_Dragon
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Ha ..sadly I can't add any info about your light. However (for the record), I'm running with a cob light so old it's a Vipar (which i 'believe' was the name of Viparspectra before a name change). It's a nine cob unit (cobs are the old Chinese 'red,blue,green' kind). It pulls 512 watts at wall (all nine cobs on) and has two switches allowing either 9, 5 or 4 cobs running (at any one time). No issue with cob lights breaking or diodes dying (bought unit back in 2014). Probably worth £100 or less now (although I haven't seen one second hand). It also happens to heat my 1 meter square (2 meter high) tent to 24 degrees in winter (and 27/28 degrees C on hot summer days). So it ironically gives good environment 
I mention this cheap light as I think genetics are the most important factor when starting a grow (especially an inside grow). As an example; I just got an excellent plant from a Strawberry Cream seed (breaking buds), before that i was flowering an old '93 skunk variety.
Have a look at my current tent grow, the strawberry cream plant is at the front on the right (the '93 skunt is at the back of the tent in a basic scrog). Both strains started flowering the same day (3.5 weeks ago), the difference is quite startling (fyi - the plant at the front/left is a Malawi x Panama, 1.5 weeks into flower).
Obvious an 600 HPS would beat this but then I'd have to deal with heat, light height, bulbs etc. And I get enough good meds with this light in this space (flower tent always set for 12/12), for the moment. One day I will go Quantum though ..one day
I mention this cheap light as I think genetics are the most important factor when starting a grow (especially an inside grow). As an example; I just got an excellent plant from a Strawberry Cream seed (breaking buds), before that i was flowering an old '93 skunk variety.
Have a look at my current tent grow, the strawberry cream plant is at the front on the right (the '93 skunt is at the back of the tent in a basic scrog). Both strains started flowering the same day (3.5 weeks ago), the difference is quite startling (fyi - the plant at the front/left is a Malawi x Panama, 1.5 weeks into flower).
Obvious an 600 HPS would beat this but then I'd have to deal with heat, light height, bulbs etc. And I get enough good meds with this light in this space (flower tent always set for 12/12), for the moment. One day I will go Quantum though ..one day
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Kegstand420
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Shit puff for The amount of buds I see floating around that space I’d say fuck it and just deal with the old light like you said that looks like it’s gonna be an awesome yield this is my kush auto first ever from seed to harvest of any plant running it under a 110w actual draw blurple ufo light from growstar for my space and what I desire not to bad would like to see how a photo flowers under it have one that’s been in veg for over two and a half months with at least 15 topsHa ..sadly I can't add any info about your light. However (for the record), I'm running with a cob light so old it's a Vipar (which i 'believe' was the name of Viparspectra before a name change). It's a nine cob unit (cobs are the old Chinese 'red,blue,green' kind). It pulls 512 watts at wall (all nine cobs on) and has two switches allowing either 9, 5 or 4 cobs running (at any one time). No issue with cob lights breaking or diodes dying (bought unit back in 2014). Probably worth £100 or less now (although I haven't seen one second hand). It also happens to heat my 1 meter square (2 meter high) tent to 24 degrees in winter (and 27/28 degrees C on hot summer days). So it ironically gives good environment
I mention this cheap light as I think genetics are the most important factor when starting a grow (especially an inside grow). As an example; I just got an excellent plant from a Strawberry Cream seed (breaking buds), before that i was flowering an old '93 skunk variety.
Have a look at my current tent grow, the strawberry cream plant is at the front on the right (the '93 skunt is at the back of the tent in a basic scrog). Both strains started flowering the same day (3.5 weeks ago), the difference is quite startling (fyi - the plant at the front/left is a Malawi x Panama, 1.5 weeks into flower).
Obvious an 600 HPS would beat this but then I'd have to deal with heat, light height, bulbs etc. And I get enough good meds with this light in this space (flower tent always set for 12/12), for the moment. One day I will go Quantum though ..one day
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Puff_Dragon
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Thanks Keg. And that looks like a great plant you got there (from just a 110 Watt blurple ufo). That main cola looks resin-tastic! If the genetics are good, your '15 topper' will be impressive. With so many tops you will probably want more wattage (for the biggest buds). However, it's fun to see what you can get with just 110 watts
Sad thing about auto's (for me) is that you can't select a 'keeper' when you get a plant that grows/yields especially big. Plus, using photo plants means 12 hours (or less) light/cheaper running costs during flower.
I'm making a dwarf (using a clone) of the high yielding strawberry cream plant right now (along with a Malawi x Panama dwarf). It will end up in my 60-80 watt veg tent (set for 18hrs). fyi - my plan is to have around ten dwarf mother plants in a small tent (basically trying to make a small, low watt veg tent with the most mother genetics in it)
Kegstand420
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That is a rather great idea puff you certainly have your mind in the right place for cost management also a great way to keep Mother’s but not have them take up to much spaceThanks Keg. And that looks like a great plant you got there (from just a 110 Watt blurple ufo). That main cola looks resin-tastic! If the genetics are good, your '15 topper' will be impressive. With so many tops you will probably want more wattage (for the biggest buds). However, it's fun to see what you can get with just 110 watts
Sad thing about auto's (for me) is that you can't select a 'keeper' when you get a plant that grows/yields especially big. Plus, using photo plants means 12 hours (or less) light/cheaper running costs during flower.
I'm making a dwarf (using a clone) of the high yielding strawberry cream plant right now (along with a Malawi x Panama dwarf). It will end up in my 60-80 watt veg tent (set for 18hrs). fyi - my plan is to have around ten dwarf mother plants in a small tent (basically trying to make a small, low watt veg tent with the most mother genetics in it)
Puff_Dragon
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Trying to keep that carbon footprint small
and using less electric (added to some savvy light/hr adjustments) helps to keep unwanted 'corporate' eyes away. Not to mention, dwarf plants are easy to transport (if needed), making it easy to move the fundamental building blocks of any grow ..and they're not high maintenance (as they are small and don't use a lot of water - it's easy to put them on a small/simple wick system ..if you need to go away for a week or two).
Frank Nitty
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You guys are too heavy for me to be trying to keep up with. Mad scientists/ McGuyver's indeed!!! I've been away from the game too long, now I'm working hard to catch up and understandTrying to keep that carbon footprint small
Not to mention, dwarf plants are easy to transport (if needed), making it easy to move the fundamental building blocks of any grow ..and they're not high maintenance (as they are small and don't use a lot of water - it's easy to put them on a small/simple wick system ..if you need to go away for a week or two).
Frank Nitty
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I subscribed to your YouTube channel yesterday
Fullscan19
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Wooo lots of hate for vipars in this thread!
I have used two 300w vipars in two grows and did well, both 4 plants, first 6.5 oz, made some simple mistakes, and second came out to 9.8
I’m going to use them for veg but change to another Chinese LED such as mars with a lot of red and see what happens
I have used two 300w vipars in two grows and did well, both 4 plants, first 6.5 oz, made some simple mistakes, and second came out to 9.8
I’m going to use them for veg but change to another Chinese LED such as mars with a lot of red and see what happens
Lola Grows
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You’ll get the same results. Might as well use the ones you have. Tomato, Tomatoe when it comes to those 2 lights.
Go go n chill
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I have both mars and vipars AND a diy COB fixture. My DIY pulls right at 300w. And it grows really nice plants, I have really good yields and the buds are frosty if the strain is capable... 35k cobs cxm’s 22.
And no the Mars Hydro and the viper 600 or two different lights. My vipar grows circles around the mars light. The vipar also grows frostier buds than my DIY. I’ve already done a grow comparison. The vipar buds are just a tad smaller than my DIY.
Go go n chill
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What did you end up purchasing