How would you describe the interactions you've had with law enforcement/police?

[ttystikk]

I'm sure some cops feel remorse and are exposed to horrible things, and even sometimes they do decent things, that's not my point though. All cops have agreed to enforce laws, at least some of which are clearly wrong. I don't think that can be disputed. That is my point. If you and I joined an organization where we blindly followed orders, rather than assessing the nature of the order itself, would we be held responsible for our actions? Yes, we would and we should be.

The part that ISN'T an opinion and is a fact is that not all laws are based in consistent morality, some laws are clearly arbitrary and rather than protecting a peaceful individual, they harm a peaceful individual.

That's why it's common to hear cops try to shirk personal responsibility by saying things that try to distance themselves from their harmful actions. "I'm just doing my job", is a cop out.

Just because a cop has compassion for a horribly abused infant, doesn't mean that same cop gets a pass when he enforces a law which abuses people. Otherwise, to believe different means we think wearing a cop costume with a badge creates some kind of magical aura which transforms a bad action into something acceptable, simply because we are a cop. Could you explain how that could possibly happen ?

When are you going to hold people who pass abusive laws accountable?

 

[Bugeye]

When dealing with heavily armed folks, state sanctioned or not, I try to be polite.

 

[srh88]

If I was a dick they were a dick. If I was cool most of the time they were cool..


But I am white soooooo

 

[charface]

Been detained because I looked like an escapee once.
Other than that I was always guilty and still treated well.
Im also the kind of guy when your caught your caught so I was always decent to them.

Now once In jail I have had a few run ins with dickhead guards.
Again because I treat people how I like to be treated and will definitely treat you how you treat me.

I was younger then and haven't been in actual trouble for decades.

 

[Rob Roy]

When are you going to hold people who pass abusive laws accountable?

Define abusive law please.

I consider MOST statutory laws abusive and the present prevailing system of governance itself is abusive, and can easily be logically demonstrated.


Focusing on replacing the rats in the system is addressing a symptom. Removing the control the system itself has, is addressing a root cause.

When are you going to recognize that you can't have a system which is abusive and somehow make it not abusive by repopulating it with different people ?

 

[londonfog]

Define abusive law please.

I consider MOST statutory laws abusive and the present prevailing system of governance itself is abusive, and can easily be logically demonstrated.


Focusing on replacing the rats in the system is addressing a symptom. Removing the control the system itself has, is addressing a root cause.

When are you going to recognize that you can't have a system which is abusive and somehow make it not abusive by repopulating it with different people ?

Posted speed limit is a statutory law. How is that abusive. Unlawful sex with a minor is statutory law as well.
Why do you find these laws abusive ?

 

[captainmorgan]

Posted speed limit is a statutory law. How is that abusive. Unlawful sex with a minor is statutory law as well.
Why do you find these laws abusive ?

He likes to drive fast after raping 10 year old girls.

 

[Moses Mobetta]

A great many cops shouldn't be in their profession. I have however met some who definitely had good motives. I have also met a few who were so racist, it wouldn't surprise me if they were klansmen

 

[TacoMac]

The only bad interaction I had with a police officer was a couple decades ago. An old man from out of town in an RV with friends was in front of me in line at the gas station. He had filled up and also bought some beer and snacks.

For some reason, a cop was standing right near the front counter. When the old man (who was CLEARLY in his 70's) got to the counter and got rung up, the cashier asked for his ID. The old man didn't have a license anymore because of his eyesight, so all he had were his credit cards and social security card. The clerk wouldn't accept it because it didn't have a picture.

When the old man made the statement he'd never had an issue before, suddenly this officer (who for the record was very young and most likely a rookie) pulls his gun and has it by his side and yells at the old man to step out of line.

Some people hit the deck. The old man was shocked. I was stunned, but looked at the officer and said, "Hey deputy Fife, how about put your bullet back in your pocket before you kill somebody."

So me and the old man both were arrested and taken down to the Publix parking lot to be transferred to jail.

While standing there waiting on the bus for the transfer, an officer nonchalantly walked over to us, apologized for the inconvenience and let us go.

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Best interaction from an officer was in high school. My first car was a '70 Chevelle SS King Rat. I got pulled over on highway 41 going home from the midnight movies. Cop walks up, ask how I'm doing. Asked to look under the hood. We talk cars for about 20 minutes. He then invites me out to 575 for a drag race.

Back then, 575 ended at Bells Ferry Road, but there was another 2 miles of paved highway beyond it. He moved the barriers, replaced them after we both went through and we raced to the end and back.

Poor Mustang 5.0 never had a chance.

Wound up having breakfast at Waffle House with him while the sun came up. We're still friends to this day.

 

[Rob Roy]

Posted speed limit is a statutory law. How is that abusive. Unlawful sex with a minor is statutory law as well.
Why do you find these laws abusive ?

I have no problem with the rightful owner of a road deciding how they will administer them. So, do you own the roads? Do I ? Who owns them?

Define minor please. I had sex with a miner once, she owned a goldmine, was about 95 years old and I thought I'd inherit her fortune. Okay, she might have been 65, but honest your honor, she LOOKED like she was 95!

 

[londonfog]

I have no problem with the rightful owner of a road deciding how they will administer them. So, do you own the roads? Do I ? Who owns them?

Define minor please. I had sex with a miner once, she owned a goldmine, was about 95 years old and I thought I'd inherit her fortune. Okay, she might have been 65, but honest your honor, she LOOKED like she was 95!

We all own the roads when you pay taxes.
Well the English language can be confusing as to why I'm not a big fan of it. Math cannot be argued.
Minor the noun which is the opposite of an adult. Not a miner who mines in a mine, but I think you knew that and just decided to go full fucking ignorant retard stupid, so you can continue to break the law by seeking sex with minors. Remember you have been warned pervert

 

[Rob Roy]

We all own the roads when you pay taxes.
Well the English language can be confusing as to why I'm not a big fan of it. Math cannot be argued.
Minor the noun which is the opposite of an adult. Not a miner who mines in a mine, but I think you knew that and just decided to go full fucking ignorant retard stupid, so you can continue to break the law by seeking sex with minors. Remember you have been warned pervert

I'm glad we agree on the math thing as a method of providing evidence of something.

I bet I could use math to prove to you, that your commonly held views are in error or at least some of your views are blatantly in conflict with other views you hold.

Don't mind my miner joke. Sometimes I dig up some gems.

 

[londonfog]

I'm glad we agree on the math thing as a method of providing evidence of something.

I bet I could use math to prove to you, that your commonly held views are in error or at least some of your views are blatantly in conflict with other views you hold.

Don't mind my miner joke. Sometimes I dig up some gems.

You can start by adding up the total cost of every public social service you use. Like public schools, library, sidewalk, public parks...etc.
Let me know your numbers.

 

[Rob Roy]

You can start by adding up the total cost of every public social service you use. Like public schools, library, sidewalk, public parks...etc.
Let me know your numbers.

When you only see one side of the equation, you aren't "doing math". You're rationalizing.

Those so called "services" could just as easily exist in a world where people pay for the things they chose to use and aren't forced to pay for the things others chose for them and that they don't use or wouldn't use if other possibilities were allowed to exist.

Okay, smarty pants, let's set up an equation. (this is the part where I use math to prove government is a contradiction and I'm right and you're wrong)

Tell me how you can possibly delegate a right to other people, that you do not possess?
(the answer is you can't) So, let's say you have zero right to do that. We'll express that as a 0, in our equation below.

Then, if you don't have that right, all of the other people don't either. We'll express that as zero to the tenth power.

If you add up all those zero rights, it still comes out to zero doesn't it?

0 + 0 (to the tenth power) = 0.



You cannot aggregate your zero right to do something with every other persons zero right to do something and come up with a positive sum. Which is what government is based in, a false premise, oh faithful government worshipping sycophant.

Government cannot. logically or mathematically have any more right than you or I. Yet, you somehow think it can, despite my using math to prove it is impossible.

That means I WON (again) and you lost.

 

[Tangerine_]

When you only see one side of the equation, you aren't "doing math". You're rationalizing.

Those so called "services" could just as easily exist in a world where people pay for the things they chose to use and aren't forced to pay for the things others chose for them and that they don't use or wouldn't use if other possibilities were allowed to exist.

Okay, smarty pants, let's set up an equation. (this is the part where I use math to prove government is a contradiction and I'm right and you're wrong)

Tell me how you can possibly delegate a right to other people, that you do not possess?
(the answer is you can't) So, let's say you have zero right to do that. We'll express that as a 0, in our equation below.

Then, if you don't have that right, all of the other people don't either. We'll express that as zero to the tenth power.

If you add up all those zero rights, it still comes out to zero doesn't it?

0 + 0 (to the tenth power) = 0.



You cannot aggregate your zero right to do something with every other persons zero right to do something and come up with a positive sum. Which is what government is based in, a false premise, oh faithful government worshipping sycophant.

Government cannot. logically or mathematically have any more right than you or I. Yet, you somehow think it can, despite my using math to prove it is impossible.



That means I WON (again) and you lost.

Was Mrs Trenchbowl your teacher when you attended public school?

 

[Rob Roy]

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Was Mrs Trenchbowl your teacher when you attended public school?

No, but I THINK I knew her sister.

So, one time I had changed high schools and found myself in a biology class with a Mrs. Trenchbowl type as the teacher. I sat in back and kept my mouth shut for the most part, but one day some dufus tossed a wadded paper at another kid just before the class was about to end. This was a long time ago, when teachers would hit students if they thought they could get away with it.

Mrs. Trenchbowl no likey. She said until she found out who did that, NOBODY was leaving the class. The class was the last one of the day, which meant we'd all miss our bus etc.

So, I got up went to the front of the room and told Mrs. Trenchbowl, I didn't do it and I wasn't going to stay until she found out who did. I then told her I had a younger sister I had to be home to watch and I was leaving, if I missed my bus my sister about 6 years old would be locked out of the house etc. While Mrs. Trenchbowl sputtered, I walked out. Fuck Mrs. Trenchbowl.

 

[SunnyJim]

Those so called "services" could just as easily exist in a world where people pay for the things they chose to use and aren't forced to pay for the things others chose for them and that they don't use or wouldn't use if other possibilities were allowed to exist.

Please name one developed country where your ideology prospers. Just one.

Okay, smarty pants, let's set up an equation. (this is the part where I use math to prove government is a contradiction and I'm right and you're wrong)

Tell me how you can possibly delegate a right to other people, that you do not possess?
(the answer is you can't)

Actually, adults in developed countries have exactly that right through the democratic voting process. Let's say each adult has equal right to do that. We'll express each individual vote as a 1.

So, let's say you have zero right to do that. We'll express that as a 0, in our equation below.

We don't have '0' right, we have '1' right to cast a vote.

Then, if you don't have that right, all of the other people don't either. We'll express that as zero to the tenth power.

If you add up all those zero rights, it still comes out to zero doesn't it?

0 + 0 (to the tenth power) = 0.

We've been over this. Each voter's vote is represented as a 1. All you have to do is add up all the 1s.

1 + 1 (to the nth power, where n is all the other votes cast for a particular candidate) = 1 + n

You cannot aggregate your zero right to do something with every other persons zero right to do something and come up with a positive sum. Which is what government is based in, a false premise, oh faithful government worshipping sycophant.

Government cannot. logically or mathematically have any more right than you or I. Yet, you somehow think it can, despite my using math to prove it is impossible.

That means I WON (again) and you lost.

"Worshipping." You're a straight-up dunce. Just the one 'p' in worshiping, although I get how semi-literate morons can be confused by the spelling because it sounds like the word 'shipping'. Ask for your money back for the free public school education you received from which you didn't seem to benefit.

Carry on.

 

[Rob Roy]

Please name one developed country where your ideology prospers. Just one.



Actually, adults in developed countries have exactly that right through the democratic voting process. Let's say each adult has equal right to do that. We'll express each individual vote as a 1.



We don't have '0' right, we have '1' right to cast a vote.



We've been over this. Each voter's vote is represented as a 1. All you have to do is add up all the 1s.

1 + 1 (to the nth power, where n is all the other votes cast for a particular candidate) = 1 + n



"Worshipping." You're a straight-up dunce. Just the one 'p' in worshiping, although I get how semi-literate morons can be confused by the spelling because it sounds like the word 'shipping'. Ask for your money back for the free public school education you received from which you didn't seem to benefit.

Carry on.

Your post has potential for dissection . Unfortunately I have a prior commitment so I can't fuck with you too much right now.

I'll break it down tonight or soon after and make you cry. Keep those tissues handy.

 

[londonfog]

Your post has potential for dissection . Unfortunately I have a prior commitment so I can't fuck with you too much right now.

I'll break it down tonight or soon after and make you cry. Keep those tissues handy.

Hey I will be waiting to see this answer as well. Please no meme.
The question is.
Please name one developed country where your ideology prospers. Just one.

 

[londonfog]

When you only see one side of the equation, you aren't "doing math". You're rationalizing.

Those so called "services" could just as easily exist in a world where people pay for the things they chose to use and aren't forced to pay for the things others chose for them and that they don't use or wouldn't use if other possibilities were allowed to exist.

Okay, smarty pants, let's set up an equation. (this is the part where I use math to prove government is a contradiction and I'm right and you're wrong)

Tell me how you can possibly delegate a right to other people, that you do not possess?
(the answer is you can't) So, let's say you have zero right to do that. We'll express that as a 0, in our equation below.

Then, if you don't have that right, all of the other people don't either. We'll express that as zero to the tenth power.

If you add up all those zero rights, it still comes out to zero doesn't it?

0 + 0 (to the tenth power) = 0.



You cannot aggregate your zero right to do something with every other persons zero right to do something and come up with a positive sum. Which is what government is based in, a false premise, oh faithful government worshipping sycophant.

Government cannot. logically or mathematically have any more right than you or I. Yet, you somehow think it can, despite my using math to prove it is impossible.

That means I WON (again) and you lost.

I honestly did not read. Only numbers I see is 0.
Let me help.
You and your 3 smart young sons went to public schooling for 12 years each. .What is the cost of one year of public school ? Take that cost and multiply by 12, then take that total and multiply by 3 ( we are going to be nice and not include you, because that total falls on your beautiful mom for sending you to public schooling)

Example.
3125 X 12 = 37,500
37,500 X 3 = 112,500

112,500 ( How much of that have you paid with your property tax ? ) would be the cost if we low balled your boys public education yearly at 3125. dividing that number by 20 years would be 5,625 yearly. How much do you pay each year in property tax ?
Numbers don't lie. Shall we move on to the estimated cost of other things you use ?

Here is a complete list of public education by state rankings on a per-pupil spending basis. States are listed alphabetically:

Alabama: $9,128
Alaska: $20,172
Arizona: $7,489
Arkansas: $9,694
California: $10,467
Colorado: $9,245
Connecticut: $18,377
Delaware: $14,120
District of Columbia: $19,396
Florida: $8,881
Georgia: $9,427
Hawaii: $12,855
Idaho: $6,923
Illinois: $13,755
Indiana: $9,687
Iowa: $10,944
Kansas: $10,040
Kentucky: $9,630
Louisiana: $11,010
Maine: $13,257
Maryland: $14,192
Massachusetts: $15,592
Michigan: $11,482
Minnesota: $11,949
Mississippi: $8,456
Missouri: $10,147
Montana: $11,028
Nebraska: $11,946
Nevada: $8,615
New Hampshire: $14,697
New Jersey: $18,235
New Mexico: $9,752
New York: $21,206
North Carolina: $8,687
North Dakota: $13,320
Ohio: $11,637
Oklahoma: $8,082
Oregon: $10,442
Pennsylvania: $14,717
Rhode Island: $15,179
South Carolina: $9,953
South Dakota: $8,937
Tennessee: $8,726
Texas: $8,861
Utah: $6,575
Vermont: $18,039
Virginia: $11,237
Washington: $10,735
West Virginia: $11,359
Wisconsin: $11,375
Wyoming: $16,055

Nowhere is the number 3125...so we indeed lowballed