high ph bud soaking to prevent bud rot?!

[ganga gurl420]

So this is interesting...
Ran into a master grower yesterday (and a botany professor) and as we discussed bud rot, he said that he learned years ago that rot will not grow in an alkaline environment.
So he told me that he often sprays his buds with high alkaline water. He especially soaks the hell out of them after a rain. He swears he hasn't had rot in years.
So I started reading up on this and several growers swear by this method as a preventative.

Interesting food for thought....

 

[Sir Napsalot]

LOL @ "Fuckeliana"

On topic, this seems like an easy remedy if it works.

 

[ganga gurl420]

LOL @ "Fuckeliana"

On topic, this seems like an easy remedy if it works.

Yeah I think I will try it on a few of my plants especially since we get so much rain.

 

[Sir Napsalot]

Most municipal water supplies are buffered to be slightly alkaline (~7.2-7.4) to avoid damaging metal pipes
A teaspoon of baking soda in a gallon of water will fix the pH at about 8.2-8.4

 

[ganga gurl420]

Well sir I do believe you are on to something!

 

[too larry]

I use 1 part lemon juice to 2 parts water to fight PM.

 

[dr greenthumbs]

Baking soda is great. Foliar spray right at dark then rinse an hour later. I've seen products at the shop for pm and rot, main ingredient, sodium bicarbonate.

 

[BionicΩChronic]

So glad I read this.
What if I didn't wash off the baking soda water?
Maybe use liquid ph buffer lemon juice like Larry or wash buds at harvest as a fix?
Don't wanna smoke baking soda lmao

 

[ganga gurl420]

So glad I read this.
What if I didn't wash off the baking soda water?
Maybe use liquid oh buffer lemon juice like Larry or wash buds at harvest as a fix?
Don't wanna smoke baking soda lmao

I wouldn't use lemon juice personally. Lemon juice is acidic and the whole point is to raise the pH to stop p.m. and rot. I will use the baking soda water through out the grow and then let 1 good rain rinse them right before harvest.

 

[Beachwalker]

View attachment 4133309 So this is interesting...
Ran into a master grower yesterday (and a botany professor) and as we discussed bud rot, he said that he learned years ago that rot will not grow in an alkaline environment.
So he told me that he often sprays his buds with high alkaline water. He especially soaks the hell out of them after a rain. He swears he hasn't had rot in years.
So I started reading up on this and several growers swear by this method as a preventative.

Interesting food for thought....

Well sir I do believe you are on to something!View attachment 4133456

Yep works well, learned this the hard way unfortunately (septoria)

Use sulfur burner for better results, or control humidity for best results ?
-good luck!

 

[BionicΩChronic]

I wouldn't use lemon juice personally. Lemon juice is acidic and the whole point is to raise the pH to stop p.m. and rot. I will use the baking soda water through out the grow and then let 1 good rain rinse them right before harvest.

Did very little research and found out these other alternatives
Dolomite Lime
Dyna gro protect (potassium-silicate)
((May not be 1000% organic I didnt check but P-S is a mineral))
Potassium biocarbonate

The last two will also work as a foliar feed for flower! Making your buds bigger while also fighting mold cant beat that.
Probably be best to spray after each rain
And also once each week.

 

[ganga gurl420]

Did very little research and found out these other alternatives
Dolomite Lime
Dyna gro protect (potassium-silicate)
((May not be 1000% organic I didnt check but it P-S is a mineral))
Potassium biocarbonate

The last two will also work as a foliar feed for flower! Making your buds bigger while also fighting mold cant beat that.
Probably be best to spray after each rain
And also once each week.

Yeah the potassium bicarb. Is what my friend uses. I just want to grow as organic as possible tho....but I have time to do more studies

 

[ganga gurl420]

P.s. I know that it is okay for organic farming. Who knows I may end up using that instead. Or maybe both

 

[Sir Napsalot]

So glad I read this.
What if I didn't wash off the baking soda water?
Maybe use liquid ph buffer lemon juice like Larry or wash buds at harvest as a fix?
Don't wanna smoke baking soda lmao

It's one teaspoon dissolved in a gallon of water- there's really nothing to wash off. The baking soda is only used to raise the pH of the water

 

[too larry]

I wouldn't use lemon juice personally. Lemon juice is acidic and the whole point is to raise the pH to stop p.m. and rot. I will use the baking soda water through out the grow and then let 1 good rain rinse them right before harvest.

I first heard of this from the Weed Nerd videos Sub Cool did. Dave {from the Garden of Weeden} used it on his garden. I did a google search, but couldn't find the exact video, but did find this magazine that mentions it.

http://www.weedworldmagazine.org/2018/01/19/the-garden-of-weeden-part-2-by-subcool/

 

[too larry]

Knock on wood, so far I have only had PM on one plant. That was the mother to the Hurricane Head FP strain. I did the lemon water for the last 2-3 weeks before the chop. It did seem to help.

 

[too larry]

Another good link.

https://moldresistantstrains.com/6-ways-cure-powdery-mildew-cannabis-organically/

 

[ganga gurl420]

Another good link.

https://moldresistantstrains.com/6-ways-cure-powdery-mildew-cannabis-organically/

Well I'm not trying to prevent that so much as bud rot. I've never had pm before myself. Just trying not to lose buds

 

[dr greenthumbs]

Baking soda rinse works when done correctly, period. You don't have to use a large amount, just enough to raise the ph on the surface. Mildew likes to grow on acidic areas, raising the ph on the plant surface Will cause unsuitable conditions for growth. Sulfur burners work too, but you can ruin your grow if it's not done correctly, I've done this, it sucks. Controlling your environment is the best preemptive measure, but these things happen, especially outdoors. There are so many gimmicks out these days, but there is always an age old organic solution to most problems. Most people just go to the shop and ask the people there. These are employees first and foremost, they are naturally going to sale you something they carry. I've yet to see a grow shop carry baking soda. I have seen many expensive products for this particular problem with the active ingredient being sodium bicarbonate.

 

[defec1]

Hi, any updates on if this worked for anyone as a preventive measure? Thanks.