Bad start to the outdoor season

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TrichomeChaser

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So I'm having a couple issues. Started some seeds indoors to get them ready to go outside at the end of the month. Waiting for new ph pen to come in so I transplanted them into 2g pots of fox farm ocean forest. good amount of nutrients in it. Figured since I don't have ph pen yet thatd be easiest route since I wont have to add any nutes for a couple weeks. Did that transplant about 1 week ago. Gave them one more watering since then and they are growing but they are not in good health. I have them under 2 4ft 4 bulb t5s with a fan on them. Some look okay some look like they have a calcium deficiency. Lower leaves on a couple yellowed up really quickly as if they were not getting any nutrients.
What does this look like to you?
Calcium deficiency?
Ph issue?
Underwatered?

Any advice would be helpful and appreciated. Had a gpod outdoor season last year and had plans for a even better one this year

Thanks
 

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tiltswitch

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Could be under water, ph , and the process of re potting, depends how high your water ph is. Doubt it's this if it's drinking water. Doubt it's not enough nutes either, more like the effects of potting up into new medium and ph out, takes a day or so to activate the soilless mix and get bacteria moving. Were they root bound before? I think if you give a good feed of phed water to 6.5 with maybe a touch of grow nutes1/4-1/3 strength once , to push them on and see how you go.dont have the fan blowing on the plants rather in between plants and light. I doubt it's cal/mag because they're so young but anything is possible.
 
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tiltswitch said:
Could be under water, ph , and the process of re potting, depends how high your water ph is. Doubt it's this if it's drinking water. Doubt it's not enough nutes either, more like the effects of potting up into new medium and ph out, takes a day or so to activate the soilless mix and get bacteria moving. Were they root bound before? I think if you give a good feed of phed water to 6.5 with maybe a touch of grow nutes1/4-1/3 strength once , to push them on and see how you go.dont have the fan blowing on the plants rather in between plants and light. I doubt it's cal/mag because they're so young but anything is possible.
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Thanks for the help. Much appreciated. I had them in red solo cups before the 2 gallon pots. The roots had just begun to really wrap around the bottom of the cup when I transplanted. Just threw me off to see them react so poorly to the transplant. Never had that issue before. Ill try giving them a good watering with PHed water and maybe a little nutes and see what they think. Hopefully that will get them back on the right track.
Thanks again
 
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tiltswitch said:
Could be under water, ph , and the process of re potting, depends how high your water ph is. Doubt it's this if it's drinking water. Doubt it's not enough nutes either, more like the effects of potting up into new medium and ph out, takes a day or so to activate the soilless mix and get bacteria moving. Were they root bound before? I think if you give a good feed of phed water to 6.5 with maybe a touch of grow nutes1/4-1/3 strength once , to push them on and see how you go.dont have the fan blowing on the plants rather in between plants and light. I doubt it's cal/mag because they're so young but anything is possible.
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Whats up man. Half of the plants seem to have bounced back a little bit. Not perfect still but they are growing and showinf healthy new growth. The other half are growing much slower and the top 2 or 3 nodes are getting these brownish spots starting at the tips of the fan leaves. Looks like calcium but I've never seen it start at the tips like that. What do you think?
Thanks for the help
 

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tiltswitch

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Yeah not really seeing that in young plants before. Might be reaction to ph. Just see how they go and keep on top of your watering, yellow leaves at the bottom is where they've dried to much and plant has used the water out of them to grow etc
 
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tiltswitch said:
Yeah not really seeing that in young plants before. Might be reaction to ph. Just see how they go and keep on top of your watering, yellow leaves at the bottom is where they've dried to much and plant has used the water out of them to grow etc
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Yeah I've never had issues like this so early into a grow. I've had plenty of successful grows that's why this is getting frustrating. I've been giving them PHed water and they are not improving. So as a last hope at getting them back on track I transplanted them from 2G pots into 4s. Using my RO filter again which isn't great but my ppm out of tap is 450 and the RO system gets it down under 100 so its much better then 450. So I'm using that water now and doing 4ml per gallon of calmag. Going to give them a light feeding . Switched over to promix bx which is what I usually use. So well see how things look after a good watering a light feeding in the new pots. Hoping to see some good healthy growth start. Getting late into the season to have to start over. If these don't recover in the next week I'll have to take a clone from a bunch of them and start over.
 

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TrichomeChaser

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bezalom said:
looks like nitrogen deficiency

add some cal-mag too your feeding
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Thanks for the help. Finally got things on track.

tiltswitch said:
Nice plants bro, Stick to what you know works is a great rule.
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Thanks man. They are finally getting to where they should have been a month ago. I mentioned I used fox farm ocean forest in 2 gallon pots after they were sprouted and had good root system. Well I had a feeling I got a bad batch of soil cause I've used it before and never had any problems like this. After playing around with that for a good month and getting absolutely nowhere I transplanted into 4 gallon pots with a different soil Pro mix BX which is what I used last year.I transplanted and gave them a little topdressing for a feed and It was amazing how quickly they turned around. It was like they were completely different plants almost immediately. This is what they look like less then 2 weeks after transplant
 

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Hey guys. Everything going pretty good with the outdoor now. Got them out in 15 gallon pots right now. Got one that is showing some distorted leaves though. Mostly toward the tops and newer growth. Any idea what the cause of this might be? Hoping to get on top of it before it gets worse but not too sure what the cause is.

Thanks for any help in advance
 

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