Help what’s wrong with my plant
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Master_Tabi
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Cut them up into smaller pieces, it helps move more nutes into the water. Now i'd say 2 days in the sun or a warm place and you can feed that to your plant.
Rav3n69
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I PH’d tested the water aswell it was like 5.9. I don’t got PH down. So i’m using the lemon juice drops to lower the PH when should I feed it aswell?
Master_Tabi
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5.9 is good for watering soil. If anything you'd want to pH up it to like 6.5 but for water its not a huge deal.
Rav3n69
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Can I give it its first feeding and watering later when I get off work? Or should I know I don’t got much time to though if I was gonna now
Master_Tabi
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As long as your soil is dry, don't over water.
The guy at the hydro store is pulling your leg. Sorry.
Soil is your buffer! Not the damn water.
Makes my stomach turn in knots, every time I hear it.
That water isn't dong you any favours.
There is a big, big, big reason they tell you not to put lemon into compost.
Things go anaerobic very, very fast.
Waste tells you absolutely nothing about the actual ph of the soil.
You have the ph pen.
5 parts water to 1 part soil. Test with your pen.
I'm almost certain your ph is a little low.
Adding acid is not helping your cause at all.
One way of explaining is
Do you ph your tap water before using the garden hose on your tap outside, to water your house garden???
If ph your water, and measuring waste is what you want to do. Grow with soiless. Coir is my favorite.
Hydroponics (buffer your water. It's hydro!)
Soil (amend your soil. It's SOIL)
Your soil would be so dead right now from all those acid baths.
There is such a thing as "acid rain" as well.
Do you ph your tap water before using the garden hose on your tap outside, to water your house garden???
If ph your water, and measuring waste is what you want to do. Grow with soiless. Coir is my favorite.
Hydroponics (buffer your water. It's hydro!)
Soil (amend your soil. It's SOIL)
Your soil would be so dead right now from all those acid baths.
There is such a thing as "acid rain" as well.
RetiredGuerilla
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and magnesium too. That's why i like dolomite lime. Calcium and Magnesium it's loaded with it.. I have never tested PH in my 30 years as a craft cannabis farmer.
NaturalFarmer
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Most growers don't understand how much calcium cannabis uses. I think dolomite can be great for a mix but for something like this where time isn't on his side, I would suggest getting a bit of epsom salt as a foliar to go along with the gypsum scratched into the soil. I use a tsp to a qrt for epsom, sprayed in the morning.
This is the results of a tissue analysis on one strain (purple dogbud)
Calcium 10%
Nitrogen 3.5%
K 3.8%
Silca 3.7%
Mag .87%
Phos .41%
Sulfur .17
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Arn't you guys the least bit worried that, the main problem may be acidity?
Because all those things will be unavailable anyway?
I agree.
Have never, ever, ever, ever ph'd my water for soil.
I only test the ph, when i want to know what to amend it with, when planting.
What i choose to amend the soil with, when i plant. Depends on the ph of the soil. Ph of the water source, and how much green organic matter is in the soil.
Then its plain old tap water from day 1.
No testing ph needed at all.
The only soil growers, i have ever known to ph their water, are cannabis growers.
Phing water for soil is nonsense in my opinion.
Most store bought, baged soil, is already over 6.5. Closer to 7. Too high out of the bag.
Op.
Next time i suggest buying soil, that has something acid loving like tomatoes, and marigolds all over the packet.
It'll be ph6-6.5, straight out of the bag. Youd probably only have to add, some gypsum, perlite, and a little epsom salts.
Easy peezy.
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NaturalFarmer
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Is this municipal tap water? A water test may be available online if so.
I think many of your issue will be resolved with gypsum. Calcium is porous and allows more pore space for roots to breathe. Not trying to be a jerk but banana peel tea isn't going to fix anything.
I think many of your issue will be resolved with gypsum. Calcium is porous and allows more pore space for roots to breathe. Not trying to be a jerk but banana peel tea isn't going to fix anything.
Master_Tabi
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Youre not being a jerk you know more than I do, I'm just trying to help the fella out. I had some similar symptoms first I amended soil with aluminum sulfate and after used a tea and my problems where over. By all means if im wrong you tell me.
Rav3n69
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I;m confuesd by this,
"You have the ph pen.
5 parts water to 1 part soil. Test with your pen."
How do I do this?
NaturalFarmer
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If you need to bring the pH down, I would highly recommend using a few handfuls of peat instead of using aluminum sulfate. Aluminum is not well liked by plants and is not very good for soil health IMO.
I personally have never used Fox Farm Ocean Forest but I see growers all the time who use it and are running def by late veg early flower. This could be because it is popular but also most likely shows that the mix isn't very good. IMO one would be much better off making their own soil mix using peat and coco base and it would cost 1/4 the cost.
@Master_Tabi
I have linked many of Dr Chos manuals if you are interested in them. Personally I think many of the methods are time consuming and meant too occupy time and hands. The methods do work however and they are fun lessons in science and soil health. Some of it seems to me as novelty however and easier ways are out there to skin a cat I mean cucumber.
https://www.rollitup.org/t/korean-natural-farming-one-straw-revolution-manuals.926171/
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Master_Tabi
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What did you end up doing?