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Yodaweed

Yodaweed

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gr865 said:
@yada

If you are having problems with the strain, why breed? Find a stabilized strain and run with it.
Now this is coming from a person who has never tried breeding cannabis. :)

GR
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no problems with the strain just bad odds so far, the one female i got was fire so i'm cool with low numbers as long as theirs high amounts of keepers in the females i do find. I also run clones of my white fire og and grape ape to make sure i always got weight, these are just being run in my tester area .
 
gr865

gr865

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Inside the ol' 4 x 4

Day 28 of 12/12

All is going well, no problems to report, which is a good thing.
Added a third water cycle, now at three irrigation cycles per light cycle, 8 programs. Currently, lights on at 9 PM, 1st cycle and times, 9:10 PM, 9:20 and 9:30 each for one minute, just to get about 10% runoff. 2nd cycle 1:00 AM one minute, 1:15 AM two minutes, to just runoff, and third cycle is 6:00 AM one minute, 6:25 one minute, 6:45 AM 2 minutes, a good 20 to 30% runoff.
Began adding Liquid KoolBloom at day 21 @ 8 ml and with this last rez change will be at the 5 ml rate for the next week or so. Still running 0.8 EC with A&B, and with 2 ml Cal/Magic, 1 gram Epsom, 3 ml Rhizo, 9 ml Cannazym, 5 ml Golden Tree and Drip clean. I get a total EC of 1.2.
The only issue I have is with Golden Tree, without recirculation it settles out in the rez's. I had been recirculating from just after the final irrigation cycle to just before the start of the first cycle of night at lights on. This helps stabilize the nutes and provide passive O2 into the solution. At that time it shuts off and I adjust the pH to 5.8 , over the nights cycles it moves maybe to 5.84. Now I will have to recirculate continuously which with cause my pH over the nights cycles move from 5.8 to 5.95 +/-. Not sure is that will be a problem as some fluctuation is good.

Here she is at day 21 just after major pruning and retying.

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Here she is this morning day 28.
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Pleased with the growth, not lush, not underfed, budding nicely and continuing to stretch some, will do a bit of SC soon, can't move the lights any higher. So I went ahead and did a couple of SC's, did a couple last week, then last night and will do them as needed for height control.

Did this one last week
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Did these two this last night.
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GR
 
gr865

gr865

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Inside the ol' 4 x 4
Day 28 of 12/12

Just wanted to add, I am a bit concerned with the height of the lamps, they are 15 to 17 inches off the plants. The lowest I have had these lamps was when the plants grew into them last grow and they were under 12 inches and that gave me a good burn, and that was days 22 and 23 right after defo, so most of the damage was to the new growth.
I do have good control over the environment, well best I can do with what I got. my temps at lights on are 80 degrees canopy level, dark period is high 60's low 70's. Only thing I don't have a good handle on is the humidity but I have very good air movement.
I am hoping I can LST and SC as necessary for height control. This strain does stretch beyond day 21, and it has slowed so maybe it's all good.

GR
 
xPeaceofMindx717

xPeaceofMindx717

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So I just picked up a knockoff internal ballast 315 watt fixture along with a 3100K Phillips Horticultural bulb. This thing kicks ASS. So much ass in fact, that I took it down and put my Tasty T2-2100 LED back up. I'm in a 2x4x6'11" tent with 4inch fan/scrubber(@100%) and the air temps jumped into the low 90's within 2 hours of turning that bad boy on. I invested in it as a low heat HID upgrade option, to my disappointment (Is HPS REALLY HOTTER than this beast for comparable wattages? YIKES!) That being said, I'm in LOVE with the spectrum and intensity of this light. I believe it's just the thing I need to bulk up my flowers. Any tips on what I can do to help beyond what I've already put in motion, would be greatly appreciated.

I only had a little 5K BTU window unit in the room that holds the tent and it wasn't cutting it. I invested in a portable 12K BTU and moved the 5K unit to another room, something the missus and I planned to do anyway. The AC is a single hose evaporative exhaust design and is currently just cooling the room. I've seen videos of people making a cowling out of cardboard and duct tape and routing the AC directly into the grow tent from the outside. Has anyone tried this? Would it work to still keep the outer room cool as well as the interior?

Also ordered a two pack of clip on fans to replace my single one that just shit the bed. Planning on keeping one low near the passive intake, angled upwards on oscillating mode; and the other pointed at the light across the top of the canopy. I'm going to mess around with rerouting my exhaust system from the current horizontal configuration at the top of the tent to a vertical one exhausting out of the roof vent in the back right corner of the tent. If this all fails, my last ditch effort to keep this sweet lamp would be to upgrade to a 6 inch exhaust system. Its my last option because I freaking just bought this new 4 inch filter.

Last run with the LED, I veg'd at 60% power and flowered at full power. The potency and flavor was excellent but the bud density was lacking compared to my desired outcome. The light was the only variable that I figured could have been improved. This time, I'm vegging under the LED at full power, but I'm considering throwing up the LEC now that the new AC is in and seeing how it goes. She's not a seedling anymore and might be able to handle the increased temperature. Is it better to have the light intensity increase for flowering, or will a constant brightness only positively effect yields?
 
gr865

gr865

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gr865 said:
Can you seperate the ballast from the fixture? I do and maintain in the upper 70's low 80's/

The ballast add a lot of heat.
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I run Nanolux 315W CMH NA, this unit allows me to separate the two, Lamp/fixture and the ballast. Had to buy extension but well worth it.
 
xPeaceofMindx717

xPeaceofMindx717

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gr865 said:
Can you seperate the ballast from the fixture? I do and maintain in the upper 70's low 80's/

The ballast add a lot of heat.
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Anything is possible with enough jammed fingers and "What the Fucks!". I will definitely keep that option on the table should the need arise in the future.

After a bunch more surfing, I just decided to say to hell with it and throw the 315 up with the new AC rolling along. I also rehung my exhaust system vertically, out of the roof, in the right-rear corner of the tent. This allowed me to hang the light much higher up into the ceiling than on my test run. Currently its about 5 feet from the top of the plant, which I will lower in a few days in the attempt to avoid shocking the plant too much. Its been running for about 2 3/4 hours now and my air temps are 75F with 60% humidity at the level of the hood.

The spectrum and intensity of this lamp is simply incredible! I wish I could bring my bearded dragons or my day geckos in there for a bask. I'm sure they'd LOVE it, they loves their 50 watt Metal Halide's! I might have found the lamp I'll use for my future American Alligator as soon as my wife divorces me... :eyesmoke:
Aside from my reptiles and back to my other green babies.

Just looking at the light coming through my passive vent, I can notice a significant increase in blue spectrum. And nothing got me more excited than watching that beautiful-blue and deadly UV-C bouncing off the tube at fire up. And I thoughts COB's were mini sun's. Bitch please, move over for some actual MF'in plasma! :fire:
 
Yodaweed

Yodaweed

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xPeaceofMindx717 said:
So I just picked up a knockoff internal ballast 315 watt fixture along with a 3100K Phillips Horticultural bulb. This thing kicks ASS. So much ass in fact, that I took it down and put my Tasty T2-2100 LED back up. I'm in a 2x4x6'11" tent with 4inch fan/scrubber(@100%) and the air temps jumped into the low 90's within 2 hours of turning that bad boy on. I invested in it as a low heat HID upgrade option, to my disappointment (Is HPS REALLY HOTTER than this beast for comparable wattages? YIKES!) That being said, I'm in LOVE with the spectrum and intensity of this light. I believe it's just the thing I need to bulk up my flowers. Any tips on what I can do to help beyond what I've already put in motion, would be greatly appreciated.

I only had a little 5K BTU window unit in the room that holds the tent and it wasn't cutting it. I invested in a portable 12K BTU and moved the 5K unit to another room, something the missus and I planned to do anyway. The AC is a single hose evaporative exhaust design and is currently just cooling the room. I've seen videos of people making a cowling out of cardboard and duct tape and routing the AC directly into the grow tent from the outside. Has anyone tried this? Would it work to still keep the outer room cool as well as the interior?

Also ordered a two pack of clip on fans to replace my single one that just shit the bed. Planning on keeping one low near the passive intake, angled upwards on oscillating mode; and the other pointed at the light across the top of the canopy. I'm going to mess around with rerouting my exhaust system from the current horizontal configuration at the top of the tent to a vertical one exhausting out of the roof vent in the back right corner of the tent. If this all fails, my last ditch effort to keep this sweet lamp would be to upgrade to a 6 inch exhaust system. Its my last option because I freaking just bought this new 4 inch filter.

Last run with the LED, I veg'd at 60% power and flowered at full power. The potency and flavor was excellent but the bud density was lacking compared to my desired outcome. The light was the only variable that I figured could have been improved. This time, I'm vegging under the LED at full power, but I'm considering throwing up the LEC now that the new AC is in and seeing how it goes. She's not a seedling anymore and might be able to handle the increased temperature. Is it better to have the light intensity increase for flowering, or will a constant brightness only positively effect yields?
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Heat is based off watts used, so HPS is not hotter than another light that uses the same amount of watts. 1 watt = 3.41 btu
 
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