Tell me why Sativas are different than Indicas

Bugeye

Bugeye

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I think a high percentage of "sativas" grown today are not grown properly. If you want to really understand a pure sativa high I think you need to locate some pure strains grown outdoors in the correct geographic locations nearer the equator than most of the US. They need the long constant days and constant temps to finish at full capacity. Pretty hard to do indoors given increased stretch between nodes and limitations on lighting.
 
Humple

Humple

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On the sativa vs. indica question - the only real difference I've found is that indica and indica-heavy hybrids tend to give me greater pain-relief. (If my knees go numb, I'm content.) The "high" is otherwise the same. I never get what I assume people mean by a "head-high"; my mental processes seem to remain unaffected, regardless of strain. My wife, on the other hand, gets high no matter what. She turns into a real philosopher/theologian/scientist every time (she has a lot of epiphanies). Haha...
 
Z3r0Z3r0

Z3r0Z3r0

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Humple said:
On the sativa vs. indica question - the only real difference I've found is that indica and indica-heavy hybrids tend to give me greater pain-relief. (If my knees go numb, I'm content.) The "high" is otherwise the same. I never get what I assume people mean by a "head-high"; my mental processes seem to remain unaffected, regardless of strain. My wife, on the other hand, gets high no matter what. She turns into a real philosopher/theologian/scientist every time (she has a lot of epiphanies). Haha...
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Indicas have higher CBD ratio then sativas hence the pain releif, the high yes its there as well but the CBN and CBD contrast it to more of a stoney feeling then a psychedelic trip that a pure sativa might tend to give, THC has its medicinal properties as well besides psycoactive, THC kills cancer cells, while CBD may affect pain or inflamation and anxiety.
 
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alltatup

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I agree with what was said above: the basic differences come from where the cannabis originally grew: closer to the equator with mostly 12/12 days or farther from the equator with long days of summer followed by a cooling-down fall. I've also read that landrace Indicas had more THC than landrace Sativas. But the high is definitely not defined by THC alone, which is why I use a Nova decarb machine to preserve the terpenes.

I harvest Indicas like WoS Afghan Kush when most of the triches are cloudy with a few still clear and an amber here and there: the high is definitely not couch lock, but incredibly relaxing and cerebral. I like to blend strains together (after harvest), cuz when you mix all those terps and cannabinoids together, the synergy is magic!
 
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Z3r0Z3r0

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alltatup said:
I agree with what was said above: the basic differences come from where the cannabis originally grew: closer to the equator with mostly 12/12 days or farther from the equator with long days of summer followed by a cooling-down fall. I've also read that landrace Indicas had more THC than landrace Sativas. But the high is definitely not defined by THC alone, which is why I use a Nova decarb machine to preserve the terpenes.

I harvest Indicas like WoS Afghan Kush when most of the triches are cloudy with a few still clear and an amber here and there: the high is definitely not couch lock, but incredibly relaxing and cerebral. I like to blend strains together (after harvest), cuz when you mix all those terps and cannabinoids together, the synergy is magic!
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spilly1 said:
Pretty much
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Yup dayquil and nyquil, that would make a great sales pitch for the naive lol

And yes the ecuatorial thing influence THC V levels a lot, certain strains grow better in these regions due to them prone to having higher THC V levels in this part of planet

But these strains are for true THC connoseiurs only, mind blowing stuff that will leave you seeing traces
 
tstick

tstick

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And what's more...

Crystalline THCa is available on the market. And, if there was ever any question about whether or not THC, by itself, is "the" objective behind defining potency, then it should be clear, for anyone who has dabbed pure crystalline THCa, it just isn't "it".

Another thing that's becoming very popular are all the concoctions of crystalline THCa with isolated terpenes and CBD mixed together into a cocktail of all these purified elements....Guess what? Nope.

I mean, don't get me wrong....If you dab some these things, then you're going to get high....But, still....Is it "the" high that went missing from the marijuana community a couple of generations ago? Well, from someone who has been there and done both....the answer is no.
 
GoatSoup

GoatSoup

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I'm looking for some shit like I had in Hilo in ~'81. Two hits and I was giggling, after four hits the lights on Hilo bay had me mesmerized. Must have been some Puna Butter or something? Great Shit from a hippie in a pizza parlor @ $15 an oz!
 
Roger A. Shrubber

Roger A. Shrubber

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i'd like all of you to consider the "aura" of the times. in the 60s and 70s, a lot of people were into the free love, peace, music trip, didn't care about money, had a whole sea of people behind them that would protest for peace at the drop of a hat. young people wanted to expand their minds, and hadn't gotten the idea into their heads yet that they were entitled to everything in life with no effort. there was an atmosphere of possibility, that great things could happen...they didn't, but they could have.....

now the "aura" is greed, anger, entitlement, fear......people not only care about money, they'll kill you over it. young people quit wanting to expand their minds, and want to expand their portfolios...most young people feel like they should just be given what they want, which i've never understood, and never will. now there is an atmosphere of impending doom....what will kill us first? a meteor? a volcano? or will we just continue to slowly poison ourselves with pollution till we either all die or mutate into something that can live in it?

so, no matter how good weed was then, or is now, theres a lot of the attitude, the spirit, the soul gone from our society...and i think that's part of the "high that went missing"
 
Lucky Luke

Lucky Luke

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IDK...maybe.

I think it may just be tolerance. I don't smoke very much at all. Yesterday I had one cone of Strawberry Amnesia at about 10 am. I had an uplifting high till about 2-3pm at which time I prolonged the feeling by going to wine. One nice long high, just as I remember as a teenager. Ive never really liked a stone, I much prefer a high.

The trouble with drugs is tolerance and chasing the elusive early highs.
 
tstick

tstick

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Roger A. Shrubber said:
i'd like all of you to consider the "aura" of the times. in the 60s and 70s, a lot of people were into the free love, peace, music trip, didn't care about money, had a whole sea of people behind them that would protest for peace at the drop of a hat. young people wanted to expand their minds, and hadn't gotten the idea into their heads yet that they were entitled to everything in life with no effort. there was an atmosphere of possibility, that great things could happen...they didn't, but they could have.....

now the "aura" is greed, anger, entitlement, fear......people not only care about money, they'll kill you over it. young people quit wanting to expand their minds, and want to expand their portfolios...most young people feel like they should just be given what they want, which i've never understood, and never will. now there is an atmosphere of impending doom....what will kill us first? a meteor? a volcano? or will we just continue to slowly poison ourselves with pollution till we either all die or mutate into something that can live in it?

so, no matter how good weed was then, or is now, theres a lot of the attitude, the spirit, the soul gone from our society...and i think that's part of the "high that went missing"
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VERY well-said! I agree with this 100%.
 
whitebb2727

whitebb2727

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tstick said:
I already know that people SAY that a Sativa imparts a different effect than does an Indica....The whole spiel about Indicas are more couch lock and stoney where a Sativa is more of an energetic and uplifted kind of high....yeah yeah...heard it a million times. Sativa have more THC and less CBD...visa-versa for Indicas....yeeeeaaaaah...no.

I can't quite figure out why this would be the perception. After all, the psychoactive components are known -the main one being THC...right? Okay, Okay...I'm playing Devil's Advocate to say that.

But what is the difference between two separate strains..one a pure Indica and the other a pure Sativa...IF everything is tested and the THC and other cannabinoids test out to be the same for both?

The ONLY thing that could be making Indicas different from Sativas is everything else other than the known psychoactive components...right? Because what else could be making them so distinctive (apparently) from one another?

So what happens when you combine the two sides? You get strains that apparently uplift you onto the couch for some lively munching and creative resting? lol :)
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Its more complicated than that. Used to be that we thought that thc was the only psychoactive cannabinoid.

It's not. There are four. I don't remember them. There are also over 60 cannabinoids all together.

Those cannabinoids at different ratios is what gives a different buzz.

Terpenes play a role in the buzz.

If you haven't experienced the difference it's because you haven't had pure sativas or pure indicas.

I've had sativas make me pace the floor with a racing heart. I've had indicas make my body throb so hard I couldn't move for hours.

Don't believe me. Grow a true 16-20 week sativa and see what it does.
 
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whitebb2727

whitebb2727

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Roger A. Shrubber said:
one of the first plants i grew indoors was a very sativa heavy bag seed. not gonna say it was a landrace, but i saw no indica in her at all, took 14 weeks to get 5% amber. it was awesome, super day time weed, get shit done and laughed my ass of while doing it, wish i had taken a cut of it
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Indicas have been used to make hybrids that flower faster and more weight.

I love sativas. Get stuff done. I hate smoking a bowl and being stuck during the day.
 
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Jimmy the vest uk

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One time I ran out of flower and decided to smoke some Vaped flower, I felt my body was heavy but my mind completely clear. If I’m right I had removed the thc from the flower but still had all the cbd’s and stuff and could really feel the difference from smoking it fresh out the bag where I would have a head high too
 
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