Is my combination of Nutes acceptable?

[NoobieNugs]

Hi guys, been a gold mine of info so far so thanks for that.
After searching the crazy world of nutrients, I have chose the following to run with..
Medium Coco (300w CFL 6400k and 2700k)
Formulex for Veg
Canna Bloom A and B
Sensi Cal Mag extra
Golden Tree 2ml veg 5ml flower.

As my name suggests I am new to this so thought you may be able to guide me. Any information will be revieved gratefully.
The Cal mag needs seem to be debated a fair bit and people seem to add a Boost as well as use Humbolts GT. Do any of my choices conflict with one another? Am I missing any vital ingredients? TIA

 

[NoobieNugs]

Would anyone like to start the ball rolling? Or point me to the direction of the Post that answered my question already?

 

[neved]

Yoo
Honestly I don’t think any grower could answer yr question completely .
Everyone choose their nutrients by themself and reallt if you going to research about feeding charts also you could get that ...
I recommend reading journals that related to your nutrients.
Can’t decided what y going to add or ... by the way
Best wishes

 

[NoobieNugs]

Thanks for your reply neved.
Its people's experiences I'm after really. Rather sceptical about the manufacturer claims so thought I'd see if there was anyone with the knowledge of running a similar feed.
I guess the main thing I'd like to know is should I be running GT with a PK and using a bud booster like big bud, or is that overkill? I'
Trying to keep it simple, I don' want to starve or force feed my plants so I will be weakening the manufacturer guidelines.
Also... Golden tree was recommended on here... but it looks as though the recommendation came from someone who is paid by Humbolt or really really loves the product... so I'm dubious.
I have no experience and research finds contradictions all over the place.
So give me your wealth of knowledge and experiences please.
Tia.

 

[Roger A. Shrubber]

not familiar with formulex, looked at the website, seems like a good product. Canna makes good stuff, but they charge a lot for it.
cal-mag is cal-mag. the only difference is that some of them add N and some don't, and some add iron, and some don't.
Golden tree is ok, but if you're using a good line of nutes, it ought to contain most of the same stuff already.
i use dry salts, like the control it gives me, and i like the price, about 60 dollars per year.
i have a bag of calcium nitrate, a bag of epsom salts, a bag of sul-po-mag, a bag of Jack's 20-20-20, and a bag of Jack's citrus, which is 20-10-20.
in veg, 1/2 a tbl. of calcium nitrate, 1/2 a tbl. of epsom salts, and a tbl. of jacks 20-20-20 in 5 gallons of water comes out very close to 250 ppm.
for flower, i top dress bi weekly with sul-po-mag, drop down to 1/2 tsp. calcium nitrate, drop the epsom salts, and change to jack's citrus. how much i add depends on where they are in the process.

 

[NoobieNugs]

not familiar with formulex, looked at the website, seems like a good product. Canna makes good stuff, but they charge a lot for it.
cal-mag is cal-mag. the only difference is that some of them add N and some don't, and some add iron, and some don't.
Golden tree is ok, but if you're using a good line of nutes, it ought to contain most of the same stuff already.
i use dry salts, like the control it gives me, and i like the price, about 60 dollars per year.
i have a bag of calcium nitrate, a bag of epsom salts, a bag of sul-po-mag, a bag of Jack's 20-20-20, and a bag of Jack's citrus, which is 20-10-20.
in veg, 1/2 a tbl. of calcium nitrate, 1/2 a tbl. of epsom salts, and a tbl. of jacks 20-20-20 in 5 gallons of water comes out very close to 250 ppm.
for flower, i top dress bi weekly with sul-po-mag, drop down to 1/2 tsp. calcium nitrate, drop the epsom salts, and change to jack's citrus. how much i add depends on where they are in the process.

What a wicked reply Mr Shrubber. Thank you!
Do you use coco?
What is top dressing? If you don' mind saving me a Google
Also my canna is Bloom.. as I believe the formulex is good enough for veg. Would you agree?
Do you think I need a boost adding?
One day I will be aiming for organics. For now in my newbie status I'm trying to keep it simple.

 

[NoobieNugs]

P.S.How' my seedling looking? Planted 6/6/18 at 6pm.

 

[Roger A. Shrubber]

i've used coco in the past, i'm using peat now. didn't really have a problem with coco, but it's not readily available where i live, and peat is.
top dressing is adding a supplement to the top of your soil and watering it in. sul-po-mag is basically epsom salts with K added, i sprinkle a tablespoon on top of the soil of my flowering plants every other week, and let the water dissolve it.
i think you ought to be alright using the formulex in veg and the canna in flower. golden tree is ok, but theres stuff thats just as good for a lot less. almost any cold water kelp extract product will work just as well, and be a lot cheaper.
i have a small container of Jack's blossom booster, it's 10-30-20, i use it one time two weeks before i think a plant is going to be ready. it's a ripening agent, helps kick things into overdrive those last two weeks. thats the only "booster" i use
you plant looks pretty good, in a few days i'd start feeding it around 75-100 ppm once a day in the morning, then water in the afternoon.
you don't want coco to dry out, but don't soak it till the plant gets a little bigger.

 

[NoobieNugs]

Thanks again Roger A.Shrubber. Another Stella response. So in conclusion a kelp based nute to replace my tiny bottle of HSGT and a touch of ripening agent one week before flush (?)
Sound like a plan! Yeah? No? Lol
Thanks for your help

 

[Roger A. Shrubber]

yeah, sounds like a plan. you'll learn and change as you go along. i've grown outside for years, just moved inside 3 years ago, and i've spent the whole three years learning how something can be the same but different....
and i won't go on a rant about how useless "flushing" is, i'll just say i don't flush, i taper off. i start dropping ppm from the peak, which is when the swell starts happening, from 5-600 ppm down to 150-200 by the time i cut. but i never just give them straight water.

 

[neved]

yeah, sounds like a plan. you'll learn and change as you go along. i've grown outside for years, just moved inside 3 years ago, and i've spent the whole three years learning how something can be the same but different....
and i won't go on a rant about how useless "flushing" is, i'll just say i don't flush, i taper off. i start dropping ppm from the peak, which is when the swell starts happening, from 5-600 ppm down to 150-200 by the time i cut. but i never just give them straight water.

Never heard someone’s getting good tast and smelling by the way !? Is it? I have doing the same as well on lowering ppm before harvest but never see the plant going to finish well without straight water .
Interesting ,maybe because I’m hydro growing fan and never use soil indoor ,but ive been growing outdoor almost for 15 yrs ,i dont know maybe I’m heavy feeder but my flush period is likely 3/4 weeks

 

[Roger A. Shrubber]

flushing is actually "leeching" and farmers don't do it to anything unless there's a problem. it's to get rid of excess salt build up, or contaminants in the soil. and most good farmers don't get salt build up. there's not one single crop in the entire world that gets flushed.
none. you can't remove anything from buds once it's there. mobile nutes aren't that mobile...i'm not going to go on. if you look into it, you'll find out the facts on your own. don't trust bro science, look stuff up, and not on wikipedia

 

[Roger A. Shrubber]

and the good taste and smell come from proper drying and curing methods. your drying period should be 7-10 days at least, and the cure should take 4 to 6 days to get past the daily dumping out stage. the length of your cure is personal choice, but two weeks at 64% rh is the minimum i like. longer is better, but i usually have people asking "is it ready yet?" like kids watching a cake in the oven

 

[smokebros]

if I could give a new grower just one piece of advice on nutrients, this is what it would be...

Pick a complete nutrient line and run it all the way through. Whether it's Canna, AN,Blue Planet, New Millenium, Supernatural, Dyna-Gro, GH, Jacks...

Using the a la cart technique when picking nutrients can (potentially) be a recipe for disaster for newer growers. Once you gain experience using a complete line, maybe then you look at what the recipe is missing or doesn't need.

 

[NoobieNugs]

How is she doing? She popped on the 9th after being potted as seed on the 6th.. of the 6th. So she is a month n 2 days.

 

[Beachwalker]

if I could give a new grower just one piece of advice on nutrients, this is what it would be...

Pick a complete nutrient line and run it all the way through. Whether it's Canna, AN,Blue Planet, New Millenium, Supernatural, Dyna-Gro, GH, Jacks...

Using the a la cart technique when picking nutrients can (potentially) be a recipe for disaster for newer growers. Once you gain experience using a complete line, maybe then you look at what the recipe is missing or doesn't need.

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[NoobieNugs]

Is this about to flower,?

 

[NoobieNugs]

How she doing?**

 

[NoobieNugs]

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I'll be organic eventually. But trying to avoid over priced snake oil too for now If I'm honest. Veg nute, canna ab bloom and a PK boost. That's all I'll be using besides cal mag on stand by with my neem spray.

 

[Greenskeeperwillie]

Hi guys, been a gold mine of info so far so thanks for that.
After searching the crazy world of nutrients, I have chose the following to run with..
Medium Coco (300w CFL 6400k and 2700k)
Formulex for Veg
Canna Bloom A and B
Sensi Cal Mag extra
Golden Tree 2ml veg 5ml flower.

As my name suggests I am new to this so thought you may be able to guide me. Any information will be revieved gratefully.
The Cal mag needs seem to be debated a fair bit and people seem to add a Boost as well as use Humbolts GT. Do any of my choices conflict with one another? Am I missing any vital ingredients? TIA

Hey buddy what is your background? I just am trying to understand why you choose
Random stuff from different companies? If you can trust the company to bring the best in every product you should probably find a company who provides the best in every product