Led daylight bulbs and cfl daylight bulbs

[ANC]

Always take the daylight or whatever bluest spectrum they have, there is a massive knock (+-10%) to produce the warmer colours.

 

[CobKits]

depends on the application. otherwise everyone would be flowering with 6500k or blue monos

 

[OneHitDone]

6500K for some reason in most home application lighting product doesn't work on it's own.
I have tried a few and it looks strong at first but then the leaves just keep getting smaller and smaller as the plant tries to get large, on green leaf vegetables that is.

Anyone care to put any of your led bulb combo's up agains my 17W China anal bead custom spec light?

 

[Coloradoclear]

It says on the box it produces 5000k daylight so i hop it works because i cant findany cfl light bulbs anywhere

Home Depot website, search "150 watt cfl", they are about $12.00 and they ship to your nearest store for free. They have a couple different spectrums.

 

[ttystikk]

As long as you take no chinese "cheapo's" from e3ay or so pretty much every LED bulb will do it. Mixing different spectra
will give a wider spectrum and you can tune it for veg and bloom if you like. But 3000 or 4000°k is also a good all-in-one spectrum because also the warmwhite LED's have still enough blue to keep the plants strong and compact! That's one difference to cfl's. Diffuser cabs can be useful if you have little space and you need to hang them directly over the plants.
Without diffusers you need a bit more distance for a good light spread.

I like the T5/T8 replacement tubes. A friend of mine exchanged six 54w T5 4 foot bulbs against six 18w LED 4ft. tubes and he was impressed by the difference. You only need to change the starter plug or simply bridge it because most LED tubes run at 100-240vac.

A few 2ft bulbs would cover a 2" 2' area pretty even and you can choose different types of diffusers and its pretty easy to remove them. The most efficient I've seen are Philips Master HO (130lm/w), but they are not as cheap like other 110/110lm/w tubes from walmart. But again, do not take chinese no-name bulbs, am4zon/e3ay is full of these inferior tubes.

I'm really happy with the all around performance of 3500K 80 CRI full spectrum LED lights.

I'm sure there's room for fine tuning but there's really no crying need for it.

 

[ttystikk]

What plants did under each one was a factor, how hot they got was another, and lm/watt. In all of those catagories the sylvanna was the best for me.

The duracell ones looked well built, cost the most, and i really thought they were gonna kick ass. Then they got so hot i couldnt touch them and didnt get as bright as the others. I dont have any fancy lab results. Just the 4 ish months i spent doing these tests for fun to get some results first hand. I realize the lumen loss due to the plastic is real, however if that focused light misses the plant all together it does nothing at all. I found the light was too focused, and it went from each plant wanting 1 or 2 bulbs at differant angles, to a few bulbs overhead covering several small plants.

@ttystikk i dont really care what you believe, and from our failure to have a convo in the other thread and you wouldnt back up anything you claimed with any explination of logic my convo with you here is the same as you treated me. Good day. I said good day sir!

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary support. You're the one saying that less than 4.5W/ft² is working for you, so it's on you to show some supporting evidence.

I didn't call you names, I just questioned your math. If you'd said 4ft² or 2x2, I'd buy that without any reservations, especially with high CRI in veg.

Soooooo to sum, your defensiveness isn't anyone's problem but your own.

 

[growingforfun]

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary support. You're the one saying that less than 4.5W/ft² is working for you, so it's on you to show some supporting evidence.

I didn't call you names, I just questioned your math. If you'd said 4ft² or 2x2, I'd buy that without any reservations, especially with high CRI in veg.

Soooooo to sum, your defensiveness isn't anyone's problem but your own.

I said good day! I cant be bothered by what you feel is a extraordinary claim.

 

[growingforfun]

Ironically i also didnt call you names, simply questioned your math and wanted to see the breakdown im not defensive, its just titties for tatas

 

[growingforfun]

Your extraordinary claim was people will be selling ind9or for .25 a grams an any decent grower should be able to sell for this price. You declined to provide any further details. You dont think thats a extraordinary claim, and my happy plants dont seem think to my wattage is a extraordinary claim. I think thats what we call, neither of us giving a shit about what other people think.

 

[ttystikk]

Your extraordinary claim was people will be selling ind9or for .25 a grams an any decent grower should be able to sell for this price. You declined to provide any further details. You dont think thats a extraordinary claim, and my happy plants dont seem think to my wattage is a extraordinary claim. I think thats what we call, neither of us giving a shit about what other people think.

It had been answered in the same thread by someone who did it. What more do you want?

 

[ttystikk]

I said good day! I cant be bothered by what you feel is a extraordinary claim.

Growing with 4.5W/ft² is an extraordinary claim. No one else but you is claiming it.

 

[Randomblame]

I'm really happy with the all around performance of 3500K 80 CRI full spectrum LED lights.

I'm sure there's room for fine tuning but there's really no crying need for it.

Yup! 3500°k/CRI80 and now 3000°k/CRI 80/90 mix does the job very well for me too. No need to mix different spectrums for a special veg spectrum!
I've tried fine tuning with 15% additional deepreds(SSL80, Osram) but I'm pretty sure with 15% more white I would have gotten the same or more, with less issues/effort. Additional UVB... yes, but would I use additional mono's again? Probably not...
Only for a far-red trigger.

 

[growingforfun]

Growing with 4.5W/ft² is an extraordinary claim. No one else but you is claiming it.

You dont have to believe me, your totally welcome to be convinced im full of shit as is your right. Theres nothing i can do short of posting photos to proove otherwise to you, and im not going to. I already said pretty much everything there is to say on the topic, so again, good day.

It had been answered in the same thread by someone who did it. What more do you want?

I asked a spacific question and a exact breakdown, you didnt want to back up your claim. I asked for a quote to back up your claim, you declined that as well.

 

[ttystikk]

You dont have to believe me, your totally welcome to be convinced im full of shit as is your right. Theres nothing i can do short of posting photos to proove otherwise to you, and im not going to. I already said pretty much everything there is to say on the topic, so again, good day.

I asked a spacific question and a exact breakdown, you didnt want to back up your claim. I asked for a quote to back up your claim, you declined that as well.

Then without evidence you'll forgive us for not buying your bullshit. I even gave you an out by suggesting that 70W over 4 ft² is reasonable, but you walked right on by that.

Again, someone chimed in and discussed her grow that met the basic quarter a gram standard. Why do you need me to confirm someone else's first hand account in the very same thread?

I mean seriously, what's so magical about weed that it just can't be grown and dried for $112 a fucking pound?

Millions of real, actual farmers are laughing at you right now- while wishing they could get that kind of money for everything from tomatoes to cilantro!

 

[growingforfun]

Then without evidence you'll forgive us for not buying your bullshit. I even gave you an out by suggesting that 70W over 4 ft² is reasonable, but you walked right on by that.

Again, someone chimed in and discussed her grow that met the basic quarter a gram standard. Why do you need me to confirm someone else's first hand account in the very same thread?

I mean seriously, what's so magical about weed that it just can't be grown and dried for $112 a fucking pound?

Millions of real, actual farmers are laughing at you right now- while wishing they could get that kind of money for everything from tomatoes to cilantro!

Well i dont need a out because im not looking for one.

And if its so easy to proove lets see that breakdown of indoor weed being SOLD for 25 cents a gram. I never argued it cant be grown for that. But its not reasonable to go about selling it for that. And that chick that was doing for 25 cents a gram said shes doing that OUTDOOR an of course its simple to produce it for that outdoors, and even less. I repeatedly asked for proof, you never wanted to give even a simple breakdown of costs and profit margin. I tried to make it easy by saying i can easily see how it can be 1$ a gram and still make a living and gave a detailed breakdown.


If you want to try and have a reasonable conversation we can have one, but ive never experianced you treating me with anything other than distain. Maybe thats a issue you can work on. Or maybe you can just go on thinking im full of shit as some people do until they figure out i know exactly what im talking about and have a lot of experaince with what im doing. You are welcome to just fuck off too if you like. However you wanna play this my dude.

Good day.

 

[ttystikk]

Well i dont need a out because im not looking for one.

And if its so easy to proove lets see that breakdown of indoor weed being SOLD for 25 cents a gram. I never argued it cant be grown for that. But its not reasonable to go about selling it for that. And that chick that was doing for 25 cents a gram said shes doing that OUTDOOR an of course its simple to produce it for that outdoors, and even less. I repeatedly asked for proof, you never wanted to give even a simple breakdown of costs and profit margin. I tried to make it easy by saying i can easily see how it can be 1$ a gram and still make a living and gave a detailed breakdown.


If you want to try and have a reasonable conversation we can have one, but ive never experianced you treating me with anything other than distain. Maybe thats a issue you can work on. Or maybe you can just go on thinking im full of shit as some people do until they figure out i know exactly what im talking about and have a lot of experaince with what im doing. You are welcome to just fuck off too if you like. However you wanna play this my dude.

Good day.

If you knew what you were talking about you'd supply some kind of supporting evidence.

 

[growingforfun]

If you knew what you were talking about you'd supply some kind of supporting evidence.

Supporting evidence that my plants are growing just fine... hmmm.. as your opinion doesnt have any affect on my room i dont really care. Im not telling you how to manage your room, do what works for you.

Oh heres some supporting evidence! Like how about i talked about spending 4 months testing leds and how to make this happen -.- maybe if you spent a chunk of time with a goal in mind youd acheive it.

 

[ttystikk]

Supporting evidence that my plants are growing just fine... hmmm.. as your opinion doesnt have any affect on my room i dont really care. Im not telling you how to manage your room, do what works for you.

Oh heres some supporting evidence! Like how about i talked about spending 4 months testing leds and how to make this happen -.- maybe if you spent a chunk of time with a goal in mind youd acheive it.

Lol

How little you know me.

 

[growingforfun]

Lol

How little you know me.

Keep claiming what others cant do because you know so much oh wise one. An keep making claims (of others claims lolol) and fail you back up your own claims, while demanding of others what you also dont care enough to do.

You see why this is ironic right? Such a pro. Much skills. Several lawls.

 

[growingforfun]

Maybe you should spend the 30 bucks to try what i exlained works for me. Simply saying its impossible seems funny to me.

People claim 2-3 lbs per 1000w hps all day an nobody blinks. I say i can veg several small plants in a 4x4 space with 7 led light bulbs and you lose your damn mind lololol get wreaked