Led daylight bulbs and cfl daylight bulbs

ttystikk

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Maybe you should spend the 30 bucks to try what i exlained works for me. Simply saying its impossible seems funny to me.

People claim 2-3 lbs per 1000w hps all day an nobody blinks. I say i can veg several small plants in a 4x4 space with 7 led light bulbs and you lose your damn mind lololol get wreaked
With 4.5W/ft²?


I'm not calling you names. I'm just not buying your bullshit.

Your meltdown speaks even louder than your words.
 

nfhiggs

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I said good day! I cant be bothered by what you feel is a extraordinary claim.
It *is* an extraordinary claim.
i can veg several small plants in a 4x4 space with 7 led light bulbs
There's a huge difference between "vegging several small plants" with 7 LED bulbs, and stating that 70 watts of LEDs are "adequate" for illuminating a 4x4 canopy. The first is certainly possible, but the second simply isn't - unless you are satisfied with 3 ounces of larf from a 4x4 space.
 

growingforfun

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With 4.5W/ft²?


I'm not calling you names. I'm just not buying your bullshit.

Your meltdown speaks even louder than your words.
If you think this is a meltdown your really mistaken.. it's funny to me. I'm not some first year noob. I'm used to this forum and people like you. I think it's always a good idea to check how long people have been doing this before assuming what they can't do.

Your so used to hanging out in politics you seem to have forgotten how to have a normal conversation.
 

ttystikk

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If you think this is a meltdown your really mistaken.. it's funny to me. I'm not some first year noob. I'm used to this forum and people like you. I think it's always a good idea to check how long people have been doing this before assuming what they can't do.

Your so used to hanging out in politics you seem to have forgotten how to have a normal conversation.
I asked you a straight forward question and you went all snowflake.

It's okay; no one believes you anyway.
 

growingforfun

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It *is* an extraordinary claim.


There's a huge difference between "vegging several small plants" with 7 LED bulbs, and stating that 70 watts of LEDs are "adequate" for illuminating a 4x4 canopy. The first is certainly possible, but the second simply isn't - unless you are satisfied with 3 ounces of larf from a 4x4 space.
Exactly. It's enough to veg several small plants. I never claimed any more than that. I never said that's what I use to flower. My last single plant yielded 12 oz tho of some really good oily bud when using a bulb over a year old. This run I got a brand new bulb for flower an my single plant has completely filled my 5x5 tent in a scrog an the stalk is so far I can't get my hand around it.


Assuming I only veg in that area is silly. But it IS enough to carry the plants for several months while I work my rotation.

I would never FLOWER with such tiny watts. I've gone as many as 100 watts a square ft in flower for the fun of it. This run is the least I've even pushed by putting a 1kw in a 5x5
 

growingforfun

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I asked you a straight forward question and you went all snowflake.

It's okay; no one believes you anyway.
I still don't care about what your so unable to do you can't understand it. Like the saying goes... the things you don't know could fill a library.
 

growingforfun

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The difference between you and me is that I'm willing to admit it.
If that was the case you wouldn't be so dead set on what isn't possible. You'd be having a conversation. You never want to have a conversation though, because you spend all day in politics and your hyper polarized.
 

ttystikk

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If that was the case you wouldn't be so dead set on what isn't possible. You'd be having a conversation. You never want to have a conversation though, because you spend all day in politics and your hyper polarized.
The nice thing about written threads is that one can go back and read the posts for themselves.

I said I was having trouble believing it. You're the one spending the last page throwing a fit because I won't believe your extraordinary claim without some evidence to support it.
 

growingforfun

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The nice thing about written threads is that one can go back and read the posts for themselves.

I said I was having trouble believing it. You're the one spending the last page throwing a fit because I won't believe your extraordinary claim without some evidence to support it.
I think that would be a great idea for you, go back and read what I've said unto you. You respond like you read one sentence continue to reply with some predetermind copy paste.

I could type a paragraph an you just say "bullshit" take that back to politics an like farm some trump hate.
 

ttystikk

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I think that would be a great idea for you, go back and read what I've said unto you. You respond like you read one sentence continue to reply with some predetermind copy paste.

I could type a paragraph an you just say "bullshit" take that back to politics an like farm some trump hate.
What does this have to do with anything?

Dude.

I'm not buying your claim of 4.5W/ft² of (cheap) LED light being adequate for healthy plant growth.

Nothing more or less than that.
 

growingforfun

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What does this have to do with anything?

Dude.

I'm not buying your claim of 4.5W/ft² of (cheap) LED light being adequate for healthy plant growth.

Nothing more or less than that.
I never claimed it was enough for healthy plant growth (to me that imply large veg)... I said it was enough to veg several SMALL PLANTS jesus christ dude. This has already been stated in the thread. This goes back to how you dont actually read whats written.
Will you read this far into the post? I have no idea. Now if I was trying to veg large plants I'd use different lights.


You never are able to have a conversation though. You can't respond to questions or back up your own claims. The politics forum is a better fit for you where it's acceptable to drive your fingers in your ears and repeat the same words over and over like you have been in this thread and everywhere else I've seen you pop up.
 

ttystikk

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I never claimed it was enough for healthy plant growth (to me that imply large veg)... I said it was enough to veg several SMALL PLANTS jesus christ dude. This has already been stated in the thread. This goes back to how you dont actually read whats written.
Will you read this far into the post? I have no idea. Now if I was trying to veg large plants I'd use different lights.


You never are able to have a conversation though. You can't respond to questions or back up your own claims. The politics forum is a better fit for you where it's acceptable to drive your fingers in your ears and repeat the same words over and over like you have been in this thread and everywhere else I've seen you pop up.
I've been responding to you with more civitity than you've shown me throughout this conversation.
 

nfhiggs

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Exactly. It's enough to veg several small plants. I never claimed any more than that
Here is EXACTLY what you claimed...
"With diffusers around 70 watts to light a 4x4,"

Clearly implying thats *enough* light for a 4x4 space. The "several small plants" qualifier came much later.

Edit: - Oh, and there was also this:
"Im using 7 lightbulbs in the 7-13 watt range to veg a 4x4."

Again implying thats adequate lighting for a 4x4 space.
 

growingforfun

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Here is EXACTLY what you claimed...
"With diffusers around 70 watts to light a 4x4,"

Clearly implying thats *enough* light for a 4x4 space. The "several small plants" qualifier came much later.

Edit: - Oh, and there was also this:
"Im using 7 lightbulbs in the 7-13 watt range to veg a 4x4."

Again implying thats adequate lighting for a 4x4 space.
Well the plants are wall to wall. And its plenty to veg this size plant. I can't imagine a reason to use led bulbs to do anything other than small plants in veg. Meh this would have been clear if it was a questions being asked situation much earlier, but ttystikk doesn't have conversations.
 

growingforfun

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I've been responding to you with more civitity than you've shown me throughout this conversation.
I think thats something we would both claim. You scream prove it and bla bla extraordinary claims bla bla while you wont do the exact same thing. Maybe if you backed up your claims I'd be a little more willing to hold your hand and explain how to use simple tools to grow.

I've gotten to waste a bit of time so that's something at least. Most value you've contributed lately..
 

growingforfun

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Still waiting on your breakdown of how a INDOOR gram for 25 cents should be able to be the selling price by any decent grower. Waiting for the breakdown of time to repay initial investment, the works, just like how I detailed a reasonable going rate for indoor is 1$ a gram.
 

ttystikk

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Still waiting on your breakdown of how a INDOOR gram for 25 cents should be able to be the selling price by any decent grower. Waiting for the breakdown of time to repay initial investment, the works, just like how I detailed a reasonable going rate for indoor is 1$ a gram.
Do they sell lettuce at the grocery store for a quarter a gram? Tomatoes? Cilantro? Think, man.
 
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