Switching to LED from HPS
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INF Flux
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Not sure what the "WTF" is for, sorry if it's not pretty, it's a diy, only care that it works. Reading your posts, sounds like you have some anti led bias for whatever reason. I used Bridgelux strips with a meanwell driver, best parts I could find at the time. They make plants grow, I am happy with them.
Flowki
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HPS throws out a lot of wasted light > heat in traditional growing. That wasted heat then requires extra W to take care of it. That's not saving money, that's wasting money. If he wants to save money then he needs to go vert. The reduction in light waste and increase in yield will justify the added climate control W use.
If he must do flat scrog style growing then no.. hps is not saving money, it's wasting it like a mother fucker in a gay bar. He'd be better off keeping his current climate control and investing in a single cmh or 400W of cob.
Flowki
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That's more to do with the ridicules prices. They also stopped stocking cmh as much, not because it's bad.. but because the 1k price tag for a needlessly over engineered hood put every body off, other than dumb fks with deep pockets..
Flowki
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My ability to understand is fine. I've understood the OP from the start and I am telling him to bite the bullet and invest in better lighting if he can. If he can't, drop to 400hps. Why upgrade climate to use a 600hps in it's least most efficient growing style. That is the opposite of helping or saving money.
growingforfun
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It really sounds like your opinions are based on personal failure and a unwillingness to learn how to use your equipment.
Kingrow1
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I like the idea to drop wattage, couple of 250w hps over a larger area...
Kingrow1
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No hes a good grower just an inability to see past the recent led cmh tech confusion.
In reality it happens all to easy with weed markets, Boveda and there users were convincing everyone weed taste shit unless its cured and you need boveda packs to cure properly. It wasnt plesant for some to point out that weed dosent need curing and smokes fine with just a dry.
Its endless here
Kushash
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Especially when it's water only for the last 4 or 5 weeks lol.No hes a good grower just an inability to see past the recent led cmh tech confusion.
In reality it happens all to easy with weed markets, Boveda and there users were convincing everyone weed taste shit unless its cured and you need boveda packs to cure properly. It wasnt plesant for some to point out that weed dosent need curing and smokes fine with just a dry.
Its endless here
I know you have seen a lot here.
Have you ever seen something like this? A cannabis plant develops extremely shiny leaves when bone dry in the morning a few hours after it is lights on (12/12 600w hortilux) and then the shine went away a few hours after the plant was watered. Several hours later it was back to normal. It has been normal since.
Not something I've seen before but I'm sure it is a normal plant reaction. It is also slightly high in N and that may be a factor.
Just looking for someone who has seen or heard of the same thing happening.
If your interested in pictures here is the link.
https://www.rollitup.org/t/shiny-leaves-good-or-bad-problem-idk-what-caused-it-idk.968425/
Flowki
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By all means continue thinking that way, it's not worth the alternative.
Flowki
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''led'' is confusing as it is used in a very loose term, so I always try to be clear by differentiating CMH and COB as good lighting, I'd also say QB is good.. I have not used it but enough solid sources have. They do seem to get bundled in with cheap blurple shit or over hyped ''400w led is as good as 1k hps'' scams. And that's not to say the decent cob/cmh kit/bulbs are free from crazy over priced shit.. but neither is hps.No hes a good grower just an inability to see past the recent led cmh tech confusion.
In reality it happens all to easy with weed markets, Boveda and there users were convincing everyone weed taste shit unless its cured and you need boveda packs to cure properly. It wasnt plesant for some to point out that weed dosent need curing and smokes fine with just a dry.
Its endless here
I think we've already been over this ground, hps takes a lot of environment and canopy manipulation to get the best out of. Just because it's harder to master, does not make it better. If only..
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growingforfun
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From the posts of yours I've found it looks like your in about a 3x3 space? Am I wrong?
Kingrow1
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I just think that at present a watt of power produces the same yeild regardless of light type. 100watts of led is easily rivaled by 100watts of t5's, 600watts of hps is easily rivaled by 600watts of t5's.
One watt per gram four weeks veg on a quick indica still seems about right for most lights give or take
One watt per gram four weeks veg on a quick indica still seems about right for most lights give or take
Thats bollocks...what he has listed is the amount of light energy output from the LED lights...not the draw, the draw will easily be half of a 600 HPS
Lucky Luke
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Bull shit. Im in Australia and I can run HPS all year round without AC. You don't HAVE to use ac. Its a bloody weed and takes high temps well enough when using air movement. Air movement is the number two key to a grow right after H2o
I run HPS and CFL in winter to SAVE money on heating. That's right it saves me money in winter over LED.
Im not bagging LED, LED is bloody awesome and I use an LED light for propagation and in summer as a veg light but all of our environments are different from each other.
Lucky Luke
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Co2 is heavier than o2. so air movement is a must.